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2004-12-11 by crankraven
Have any of you seen this baby ... www.mackie.com It's on the front page. Looks like it'll be released at the end of the year. Looks GREAT for controlling plug-ins and comes relatively preconfigured for Logic... ...
2004-12-11 by Steve Taylor
Yes I was looking at that just last night.. If i'm right It's an addon for the Logic/Mackie control? Rather than a standalone?
> > > Have any of you seen this baby ... www.mackie.com It's on the front > page. Looks like it'll be released at the end of the year. Looks GREAT > for controlling plug-ins and comes relatively preconfigured for > Logic... > > ... > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > >
2004-12-11 by crankraven
It can be used as a standalone unit. Of course they would LOVE you to buy it along with Logic control...I do use Logic Control, and there's just NO WAY I could go back! I just wish that they'd abandon MIDI for the connections and use USB or even Firewire...
2004-12-11 by Kamm Schreiner
> Have any of you seen this baby ... www.mackie.com It's on the > front page. Looks like it'll be released at the end of the > year. Looks GREAT for controlling plug-ins and comes > relatively preconfigured for Logic... The front page changes each time it is loaded, so what is the product you are referring to? Kamm
2004-12-11 by Kamm Schreiner
> Have any of you seen this baby ... www.mackie.com It's on the > front page. Looks like it'll be released at the end of the > year. Looks GREAT for controlling plug-ins and comes > relatively preconfigured for Logic... If you are talking about the C4, it says that it is available now on this page: http://www.mackie.com/products/digital_recording/index.html I also saw mention of a firmware update, so it must have been out for awhile. Kamm
2004-12-11 by crankraven
Then no one has one in stock... I don't think it has had a major release yet...perhaps the firmware update was for the betas... J --- In Logic_Cafe@yahoogroups.com, "Kamm Schreiner" <kamm@s...> wrote: > > Have any of you seen this baby ... www.mackie.com It's on the > > front page. Looks like it'll be released at the end of the > > year. Looks GREAT for controlling plug-ins and comes > > relatively preconfigured for Logic... > > If you are talking about the C4, it says that it is available now on this
> page: > > http://www.mackie.com/products/digital_recording/index.html > > I also saw mention of a firmware update, so it must have been out for > awhile. > > Kamm
2004-12-11 by Kamm Schreiner
> Then no one has one in stock... > > I don't think it has had a major release yet...perhaps the > firmware update was for the betas... Yep, I see what you mean. Kamm
2004-12-11 by Steve Taylor
> It can be used as a standalone unit. Of course they would LOVE you to > buy it along with Logic control...I do use Logic Control, and there's > just NO WAY I could go back! I just wish that they'd abandon MIDI for > the connections and use USB or even Firewire... So is that true of the XT extension too? You can use that as a standalone?.. I guess you might have trouble shifting banks without the main unit though. Steve
2004-12-12 by GAmoore@aol.com
2004-12-12 by crankraven
I'm pretty sure that the XT must be used with an LC... --- In Logic_Cafe@yahoogroups.com, Steve Taylor <web@p...> wrote:
> > It can be used as a standalone unit. Of course they would LOVE you to > > buy it along with Logic control...I do use Logic Control, and there's > > just NO WAY I could go back! I just wish that they'd abandon MIDI for > > the connections and use USB or even Firewire... > > So is that true of the XT extension too? You can use that as a > standalone?.. I guess you might have trouble shifting banks without the > main unit though. > > Steve
2004-12-12 by crankraven
Yeah, that looks pretty neat...have you checked out the company's website yet? --- In Logic_Cafe@yahoogroups.com, GAmoore@a... wrote: > Did anyone see the Frontier unit? I saw an advertisement in EQ magazine - its > a wireless mini control surface - which looks really cool - and they list > that it works with ProTools, Digital Performer, etc.. but no mention of Logic.
2004-12-12 by James Ryan
2004-12-12 by Kamm Schreiner
> Did anyone see the Frontier unit? I saw an advertisement in > EQ magazine - its a wireless mini control surface - which > looks really cool - and they list that it works with > ProTools, Digital Performer, etc.. but no mention of Logic. The below is copied direct from the website: Supports Pro ToolsR, LogicR, CubaseR, Digital PerformerR, SonarT and other DAW software applications So it appears that Logic *is* supported! Kamm
2004-12-13 by Charlie Massey
--- In Logic_Cafe@yahoogroups.com, James Ryan <jeryan@o...> wrote: > It does support Logic. Looks like a great addition for one man project > studios when you have to go into the sound booth to do an acoustic, vocal, > etc., and you don¹t have an engineer handy. Here¹s the link: > > http://www.frontierdesign.com/products/tranzmain.html James, Looks like a robotic audio engineer! I bought a remote control deal for my old Tascam 80-8 that some guy from CA had invented. It was basic but did the trick. You actually stuck little pieces of black tape, at specified intervals on the supply reel and there was a light sensitive unit that you taped to the recorder. As the tape reel turned, it counted the black stripes on the reel and displayed the number on the digital remote. It had about 10 ft of that flat 20 wire computer cable that ran to the remote so you could get away from the recorder to sing or play. You could set it up to do auto punch in's and it was amazingly accurate. I did some punch in's that I would never have attempted manually. I paid about $200. with 1980's $$$ and was glad to have it. We've come a long way baby! Charlie
2004-12-13 by Dave Shirk
Hey All! I am getting ready to order (I think) the 88Pro. All I care about is the hammer action keyboard. Can any piano players out there comment on the feel of this keyboard?? Dave Shirk
2004-12-13 by Peter Lemer
Sorry, I haven't and I'd love to know more - I use a Kawai MP9500 Piano and it's TDB :-) peter
> I am getting ready to order (I think) the 88Pro. > All I care about is the hammer action keyboard. Can > any piano players out there comment on the feel of this > keyboard?? > > Dave Shirk > > >
2004-12-13 by crankraven
It's OK for $499. You get what you pay for. It doesn't feel "real", but it isn't "cheap" feeling either. It has somewhat of a "sticky" touch, "plasticky"...I like the controller capability, that makes it all worthwhile; however, I would choose something else for "touch" alone...
2004-12-13 by GAmoore@aol.com
Nothing about the MAudio but regarding MIDI keyboards .... I have a Kurzweil keyboard, a Roland keyboard (older one), and I bought a Novation Remote 25. I find the Kurzweil has the most senstivity, but I like the Roland's pitch bend, and I like the Novation's pitch bend even more - unfortunately, the Novation would miss notes sometimes if I played a fast passage, and also the pitch bend didn't work on some softsynths. So I end up using the Kurzweil usually.
2004-12-14 by Dave Shirk
On Dec 13, 2004, at 2:45 PM, GAmoore@... wrote: > Nothing about the MAudio but regarding MIDI keyboards .... I have a > Kurzweil keyboard, a Roland keyboard (older one), and I bought a > Novation Remote 25. I find the Kurzweil has the most senstivity, but I > like the Roland's pitch bend, and I like the Novation's pitch bend > even more - unfortunately, the Novation would miss notes sometimes if > I played a fast passage, and also the pitch bend didn't work on some > softsynths. So I end up using the Kurzweil usually. > Thanks to all that answered here and off line! Now I do not know what to do!! Dave Shirk
2004-12-15 by Gordon Ross
I've got one and I like it a lot. It's not like playing a piano keyboard but it's much better than a synth keyboard for me (I've got a pretty heavy playing style). At the price I'd say it's good value. As others have said it's the controllers that I want. I wish they made a smaller one with the same number of controllers for live work. G
On 13 Dec 2004, at 15:55, Peter Lemer wrote: > Sorry, I haven't and I'd love to know more - I use a Kawai MP9500 > Piano and it's TDB > > :-) > > peter > > > I am getting ready to order (I think) the 88Pro. > > All I care about is the hammer action keyboard. Can > > any piano players out there comment on the feel of this > > keyboard?? > > > > Dave Shirk > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > > ADVERTISEMENT > <122603_LREC_bkup_BR_Ashanti.jpg> > <l.gif> > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > • To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Logic_Cafe/ > > • To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > Logic_Cafe-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > • Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > Service. > >
2004-12-15 by Gordon Ross
I've got one and I like it a lot. It's not like playing a piano keyboard but it's much better than a synth keyboard for me (I've got a pretty heavy playing style). At the price I'd say it's good value. As others have said it's the controllers that I want. I wish they made a smaller one with the same number of controllers for live work. G
On 13 Dec 2004, at 15:55, Peter Lemer wrote: > Sorry, I haven't and I'd love to know more - I use a Kawai MP9500 > Piano and it's TDB > > :-) > > peter > > > I am getting ready to order (I think) the 88Pro. > > All I care about is the hammer action keyboard. Can > > any piano players out there comment on the feel of this > > keyboard?? > > > > Dave Shirk > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > > ADVERTISEMENT > <122603_LREC_bkup_BR_Ashanti.jpg> > <l.gif> > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > • To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Logic_Cafe/ > > • To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > Logic_Cafe-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > • Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > Service. > >
2004-12-19 by esteso47
--- In Logic_Cafe@yahoogroups.com, Dave Shirk <dave@p...> wrote: > Hey All! > > I am getting ready to order (I think) the 88Pro. > All I care about is the hammer action keyboard. Can > any piano players out there comment on the feel of this > keyboard?? Hey Dave, I'm not a piano player but I play a little. The M Audio struck me as a little plastick-y (as previously mentioned) and I've been doing some research on controllers and a few people are having mechanical problems with these units. (broken keys was mentioned) they also said the support was good though. I was comparing it to a Roland A-80 that fell in my lap. I fell in love with the feel of the Roland while trying out a lot of other options on the market. It has a very substantial although, heavy action. So in that light, the M88 did not really hold up. I'm only talking about the touch of the instrument. In the end, none of this really matters, you've got to put your hands on 'em to see for yourself. Cheers Michael Telle PS, Hi everyone. I've just joined. I'll try to contribute as possible.
2004-12-19 by Dave Shirk
On Dec 18, 2004, at 10:53 PM, esteso47 wrote: > --- In Logic_Cafe@yahoogroups.com, Dave Shirk <dave@p...> wrote: >> Hey All! >> >> I am getting ready to order (I think) the 88Pro. >> All I care about is the hammer action keyboard. Can >> any piano players out there comment on the feel of this >> keyboard?? > > > Hey Dave, I'm not a piano player but I play a little. The M Audio > struck me as a little > plastick-y (as previously mentioned) and I've been doing some research > on controllers and > a few people are having mechanical problems with these units. (broken > keys was > mentioned) they also said the support was good though. > > I was comparing it to a Roland A-80 that fell in my lap. I fell in > love with the feel of the > Roland while trying out a lot of other options on the market. It has a > very substantial > although, heavy action. So in that light, the M88 did not really hold > up. I'm only talking > about the touch of the instrument. > > In the end, none of this really matters, you've got to put your hands > on 'em to see for > yourself. > > Cheers > Michael Telle > > PS, Hi everyone. I've just joined. I'll try to contribute as possible. > > Michael! Thanks for the input. I did NOT order the 88Pro. I live in a rural coastal area - and have to drive 3 hours to get somewhere I can try these things out! But it sounds like it is not for me. I am looking for as close to a Good Piano Keyboard feel as I can find. All I need out of it is to be used as a keyboard only - nothing else - but I do need USB output! There is probably no such thing out there! But thanks for the input! Dave Shirk
2004-12-19 by Andris Sice
On 19/12/2004, at 3:30 PM, Dave Shirk wrote: > I am looking for as > close > to a Good Piano Keyboard feel as I can find. All I need out of it is > to be used as a keyboard only - nothing else - but I do need USB > output! > There is probably no such thing out there! There must be Dave. I know pro piano players who like the feel and sound of the Yamaha digital pianos. I know you don't want the sounds. I'm not sure if Yamaha make controllers. Google? Andris
2004-12-24 by Paul Heitsch
> I am looking for as close to a Good Piano Keyboard feel as I can find. > All I need out of it is to be used as a keyboard only - nothing else - but I > do need USB output! There is probably no such thing out there! The Fatar weighted action controllers are very good, in my opinion. About as good as you might expect from any mechanism that isn't actually throwing hammers at strings and lifting dampers. The 88-key Studio Logic is around $500 USD, which is more than the MAudio usually goes for. I haven't been able to try the MAudio yet, but have heard from others that it's action is more synthy (light, springy) than other fully weighted models, like the Fatar. The Fatar does NOT offer USB - you'll need at least a 1-in 1-out interface to connect it to your computer - and it has very limited control options - nothing compared to the MAudio. But purely from a tactile point of view, I'd go with the Fatar. - PH
2004-12-24 by Dave Shirk
On Dec 23, 2004, at 11:20 PM, Paul Heitsch wrote: > The Fatar weighted action controllers are very good, in my opinion. > About as > good as you might expect from any mechanism that isn't actually > throwing > hammers at strings and lifting dampers. The 88-key Studio Logic is > around > $500 USD, which is more than the MAudio usually goes for. I haven't > been > able to try the MAudio yet, but have heard from others that it's > action is > more synthy (light, springy) than other fully weighted models, like the > Fatar. The Fatar does NOT offer USB - you'll need at least a 1-in 1-out > interface to connect it to your computer - and it has very limited > control > options - nothing compared to the MAudio. But purely from a tactile > point of > view, I'd go with the Fatar. > > - PH > Paul! Thank you so much! This sounds like the ticket! I do not care about any control features - just a "piano feel" 88 keys! And a MIDI to USB convertor is not a problem - I have several laying around! Happy Holidays! Dave Shirk Pamlico Sounds Oriental, NC
2004-12-26 by Michael Telle
Hmm, Bruce Richardson at Northern Sounds is trying to launch a class action suit against Fatar for the StudioLogic controller. I can't quite remember the model number though. I think it's the SSL 880 or something like that.
On Dec 24, 2004, at 9:55 AM, Dave Shirk wrote: > > > On Dec 23, 2004, at 11:20 PM, Paul Heitsch wrote: > >> The Fatar weighted action controllers are very good, in my opinion. >> About as >> good as you might expect from any mechanism that isn't actually >> throwing >> hammers at strings and lifting dampers. The 88-key Studio Logic is >> around >> $500 USD, which is more than the MAudio usually goes for. I haven't >> been >> able to try the MAudio yet, but have heard from others that it's >> action is >> more synthy (light, springy) than other fully weighted models, like >> the >> Fatar. The Fatar does NOT offer USB - you'll need at least a 1-in >> 1-out >> interface to connect it to your computer - and it has very limited >> control >> options - nothing compared to the MAudio. But purely from a tactile >> point of >> view, I'd go with the Fatar. >> >> - PH >> > > > Paul! > > Thank you so much! This sounds like the ticket! I do not care > about any control features - just a "piano feel" 88 keys! And a MIDI > to USB convertor is not a problem - I have several laying around! > > Happy Holidays! > > Dave Shirk > Pamlico Sounds > Oriental, NC > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >
2004-12-29 by Paul Heitsch
> Hmm, Bruce Richardson at Northern Sounds is trying to launch a class > action suit against Fatar for the StudioLogic controller. I can't > quite remember the model number though. I think it's the SSL 880 or > something like that. Someone, somewhere, is always trying to launch a class-action suit against somebody. I use the SL 880 every working day. I like it fine. BTW - there was some class-action suit filed, successfully, against Apple a little while ago. Should we all eschew their products? - PH
2004-12-29 by Kamm Schreiner
> Someone, somewhere, is always trying to launch a class-action > suit against somebody. I use the SL 880 every working day. I > like it fine. Talking about lawsuits, Apple (Beatles) is already going to court (and will almost assuredly win) against Apple (Mac) over the iPod and iTunes store. (I'm not sure if it includes both). I would not be surprised if Apple (Beatles) would make a similar move on Logic as it is certainly targeted toward the music industry and I believe that the only reason Apple (Mac) can now use that name is because of an agreement reached with the Beatles that they would never get into that market under the Apple name. Could be interesting... Kamm
2004-12-30 by Michael Telle
A little defensive methinks. In fact there appears to be some merit to the case. I'm glad you are having no trouble however. Michael Telle
On Dec 29, 2004, at 1:47 PM, Paul Heitsch wrote: > >> Hmm, Bruce Richardson at Northern Sounds is trying to launch a class >> action suit against Fatar for the StudioLogic controller. I can't >> quite remember the model number though. I think it's the SSL 880 or >> something like that. > > Someone, somewhere, is always trying to launch a class-action suit > against > somebody. I use the SL 880 every working day. I like it fine. > > BTW - there was some class-action suit filed, successfully, against > Apple a > little while ago. Should we all eschew their products? > > - PH >
2004-12-30 by Paul Heitsch
2004-12-30 by Michael Telle
On Dec 30, 2004, at 4:13 AM, Paul Heitsch wrote: > Michael - > > > A little defensive methinks. In fact there appears to be some merit > to > > the case > > Fine, maybe what youthinks has some merit. But if you’re going to > drop one shoe, don’t leave us hanging - drop the other and inform the > discussion with exactly what Mr. Richardson’s problem seems to be. > Otherwise you’re just gossiping. Paul, Alright, here it is; http://www.northernsounds.com/forum/showthread.php? t=27924&highlight=SL880 Seems to be a noisy mod wheel.