Apple Logic Pro /LogicExpress Discussion

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I have a project coming up soon - it's a talking book version of a
kids' movie that is currently in release, and I need to compose
music for it that is close to the original score but not too close. I
was wondering if anyone could recommend an EXS library of
brass and reed samples that incorporates growls, blats, falls
and other jazzy articulations that are featured very prominently
throughout the movie. We have the Sonic Implants Strings, and
the Dan Dean Brass, which are both great collections, but they're
straight-ahead classical performances, and I really need more of
a John Barry sound to make this pop.

Also, I have another project going on that involves a lot of
orchestration, and the client wants every thing done at 48K
24-bit. My dual-1G G4 is having problems bouncing out the
arrangements, (lots of spurious clicks and CPU overload
messages), so I've decided to go ahead and get a dual 2.5 G5. I
currently use an MAudio Delta 66 PCI as my main interface, and
an mBox for when I neeed to do something in ProTools. The
Delta will not work in the G5's PCIx slot without a modification
that MAudio offers for $50.00. The problem with that is the
turn-around time is about 2.5 weeks. So I'm thinking I can get by
with the mBox for now, but thought I remembered hearing about
problems people were having with Logic and the mBox. I
searched the archives, and have gotten a lot of hits from threads
in which some guy calling himself "mbox online" has posted or
been replied to, but nothing that specifically mentions mBox
issues. Anyone have any positive or negative experiences they'd
like to share?

On 19 Jan 2005, at 22:06, Paul Heitsch wrote:

> I need to compose
>  music for it that is close to the original score but not too close.

Have a look at Synful:

www.synful.com

Paul Heitsch wrote:

> Anyone have any positive or negative experiences they'd
> like to share?

My experiences with the Mbox were, unfortunately, not very positive.

Yes, it sounds great and, yes, it works perfectly... with Protools.

No, it didn't work well with Logic in OS9, not even with a 3rd party driver.

In OSX it sometimes worked ok with buffer settings of no lower than 512 
or 1024, IIRC. But usually not - I was plagued by distorted sound, as if 
the gain had increased by 300%. The Digidesign coreaudio driver doesn't 
have a great reputation.

Or should I say "didn't"...? All may be well by now. Dunno, cos I got 
tired of having no audio, and have been very happy for the last few 
months with a MOTU 828mkII.

Fortunately, you've already got an Mbox, so you're in a position to try 
it out for yourself. :-)

Good luck with the projects! :-)

I've had no problems.  When I first started using it
with logic, I, too, got distorted sound, presumably
because of a frequency mismatch of some kind.  I don't
really understand how I'm supposed to interact with
the Digidesign CoreAudio Manager, but I eventually got
it to stop happening.  I can't say exactly what I did,
though.  You'll definitely want the latest version of
the CoreAudio Manager, though.  One thing, I find I
have to load a different app that uses the core audio
manager, then load logic.  If I boot up and run Logic
as the first app, I'll have distorted audio again.

I can't claim to be happy with the way I have to
interact with the CoreAudio Manager (and don't really
understand why I need ti running at all times,
amyway), but ti does function with no problems, at any
latency setting in Logic, and the sound quality is
fine.

--sam


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Bill - 

> Yes, it sounds great and, yes, it works perfectly... with Protools.
> 
> No, it didn't work well with Logic in OS9, not even with a 3rd 
party driver.
> 
> The Digidesign coreaudio driver doesn't 
> have a great reputation.
> 
> Or should I say "didn't"...? 
> Fortunately, you've already got an Mbox, so you're in a position
>  to try it out for yourself. :-)

I'm getting the 6.7 upgrade early next week and at some point I'll 
try it out. In the meantime I'm also getting a Presonus Firepod 
that should get me through the next couple of months of 
craziness.
 
> Good luck with the projects! :-)

Thanks!

 - PH

Sam -

> I can't claim to be happy with the way I have to
> interact with the CoreAudio Manager (and don't really
> understand why I need ti running at all times,
> anyway), but ti does function with no problems, at any
> latency setting in Logic, and the sound quality is
> fine.

Thanks, that's good to know. Right now I need something that 
will work wwithout any fiddling around with anything, so I sprang 
for a Presonus Firepod. I'm also getting the ProTools 6.7 LE 
upgrade,, and when things calm down a bit I'll try out the Digi 
Core Audio driver with it.

 - PH

--- Paul Heitsch wrote:

> Anyone have any positive or negative experiences they'd
> like to share?

Logic Pro 7 on an iMac G5 w/ 1 GB and a DigiDesign/FocusRite MBox. 
Logic crashed at random when I still had the old driver, but is now
pretty stable with the DigiDesign 6.7 driver. Recording and playback
sound absolutely fantastic. I have the buffer at 1024 and everything
is 44.1 kHz.


Hens Zimmerman
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