Marcos Maniacs

Hi everyone,
I'm about to pull the body off the chassis of #5463 and I need to know 
if there are any "hidden" connections I need to know about. I've 
removed the (very rusted) screws and bolts from the rockers, along the 
tops and bottom of the seat area, the parking brake and the footwells. 
Anywhere else I need to look before I start to lift and pull? 
Thanks,
Hampton

Hampton,

Someone on the Marcos Enthusiasts message board has a list or 
diagram of every screw that holds the body on.  I'll try and find 
out who tomorrow or if you belong to the group do a search on the 
board.

Don
#3M5759

--- In MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com, "Hampton Peterson" 
<devalaw3@a...> wrote:
> Hi everyone,
> I'm about to pull the body off the chassis of #5463 and I need to 
know 
> if there are any "hidden" connections I need to know about. I've 
> removed the (very rusted) screws and bolts from the rockers, along 
the 
> tops and bottom of the seat area, the parking brake and the 
footwells. 

> Anywhere else I need to look before I start to lift and pull? 
> Thanks,
> Hampton

Yes!
After removing the fuel tank, you will find 2 more screws at the front 
of the compartment.
Have you addressed the thru-bolts securing the rearmost rear suspension 
pivots...
Take pictures!!
Bob Moreno 
#5667





Hampton Peterson wrote:

> Hi everyone,
> I'm about to pull the body off the chassis of #5463 and I need to know
> if there are any "hidden" connections I need to know about. I've
> removed the (very rusted) screws and bolts from the rockers, along the
> tops and bottom of the seat area, the parking brake and the footwells.
> Anywhere else I need to look before I start to lift and pull?
> Thanks,
> Hampton
>
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Hi Hampton,

you have to find 32 or 33 screws connecting the body with the chassis. You did not mention the screws under the rear windscreen (inside the car) and not under the front windscreen (behind the dashboard), there are as well 4 screws on each side under the doors.

There is not much room between chassis & body. You have to lift the boot slowly cm by cm and have a look in front to the footwells, if you are once higher than the rear axle you can take the body of with a second person. Don´t pull the body from the rear side because you can brake the body easily near the rear windscreen. Better put something under seat moulds.

Later be careful working on the chassis. If all angles are 90 degree the body will not fit. You have to take the measures as they are.

Good luck

Christian

MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com schrieb am 15.08.05 02:41:24:

That´s me Don,

I will try to scan it and send it to you, so you can put in the forum. PDF OK?

Christian

MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com schrieb am 15.08.05 05:58:49:

Christian
You can upload it to the Yahoo site under "files" if you'd like.  An 
MS Excel (.xls) would be best.

Thanks,

Don
#3M5759
>

Hello Don,

the text is original from the MARCOS factory. Do not really know who did send me the list.

But did rewrite in Excel. Hope it will work and help a bit.

Will try to upload if it is not in Yahoo the next 10 minutes, it is perhaps you will try it.

Christian / CF-Mantula

MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com schrieb am 15.08.05 19:09:57:

At long last making some type of progress on the Marcos project. Problem, body does not want to come off of chassis. As far as I can tell, all sheet metal screws are out, including two in fuel tank area. Rear leading arm bolts are out (Had to drill heads off and grind). Rear of body is moving up and down, movement stops at seat back bulkhead. Could it be that the foam between the steel chassis and fiberglass body is acting as an adhesive? I made an, "L" shaped tool to fit on top of the chassis sills to break the foam away. Tried to run tool between chassis and fiberglass, tight fit but it did move along top of chassis sill. As per other posts, installed floor jacks under seat pans. Of course plywood to spread the load between jack and fiberglass seat pan. When I started lifting, fiberglass cracking, car with chassis came off jack stands.

I keep looking for sheet metal screws or other fasteners, can find nothing. The car is stripped. No mechanicals, no electrical, no doors, glass, nothing, bare shell. Tomorrow I will get up on the lift and perhaps there something under I am not aware of. Hand brake is off car. Any ideas as to what could be retaining the body? The fiberglass sills fit tight against the metal lower chassis tubes. Ran a tool between fiberglass sills and lower chassis tubes. Any suggestions or ideas as to what is going on? Thank you for the time and advice. Steve V. Marcos in Arizona

Check under the foot well upper surface to frame (below where peddle box on one side and battery box on the other).The foam tape is only sticky on the frame side.Did you check all the screws (6 or 8) in the parcel shelf area?
Regards,
Larry 

    On Wednesday, August 8, 2018, 8:42:49 PM EDT, hide809rig169@... [MarcosManiacs] <MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com> wrote:  
 
     


At long last making some type of progress on the Marcos project.  Problem, body does not want to come off of chassis.  As far as I can tell, all sheet metal screws are out, including two in fuel tank area.  Rear leading arm bolts are out (Had to drill heads off and grind).   Rear of body is moving up and down, movement stops at seat back bulkhead.  Could it be that the foam between the steel chassis and fiberglass body is acting as an adhesive?  I made an, "L" shaped tool to fit on top of the chassis sills to break the foam away.  Tried to run tool between chassis and fiberglass, tight fit but it did move along top of chassis sill.  As per other posts, installed floor jacks under seat pans.  Of course plywood to spread the load between jack and fiberglass seat pan.  When I started lifting, fiberglass cracking, car with chassis came off jack stands.

       I keep looking for sheet metal screws or other fasteners, can find nothing.  The car is stripped.  No mechanicals, no electrical, no doors, glass, nothing, bare shell.  Tomorrow I will get up on the lift and perhaps there something under I am not aware of.  Hand brake is off car.  Any ideas as to what could be retaining the body?  The fiberglass sills fit tight against the metal lower chassis tubes.  Ran a tool between fiberglass sills and lower chassis tubes. Any suggestions or  ideas as to what is going on?  Thank you for the time and advice.  Steve V.  Marcos in Arizona
    

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Have you over looked some brackets or screws on the side of chassis or from inside the pan to chassis if the tool you made goes all the way across top of frame then something is attached to it wish the one I am working on would be that easy

Hello everyone,

Been a long time since my rebuild....15 years or more.

Anyhow I have scanned a few pics I took through my process. Hopefully they may be helpful.

I do remember it being a bit of an effort to get the shell off the frame. It is a tight fit.

Dave

Morning, Steve,Did i send you the drawing for the 'roll around' cradle for supporting the body while off the frame?

Regards,
Larry 

    On Wednesday, August 8, 2018, 8:42:49 PM EDT, hide809rig169@... [MarcosManiacs] <MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com> wrote:  
 
     


At long last making some type of progress on the Marcos project.  Problem, body does not want to come off of chassis.  As far as I can tell, all sheet metal screws are out, including two in fuel tank area.  Rear leading arm bolts are out (Had to drill heads off and grind).   Rear of body is moving up and down, movement stops at seat back bulkhead.  Could it be that the foam between the steel chassis and fiberglass body is acting as an adhesive?  I made an, "L" shaped tool to fit on top of the chassis sills to break the foam away.  Tried to run tool between chassis and fiberglass, tight fit but it did move along top of chassis sill.  As per other posts, installed floor jacks under seat pans.  Of course plywood to spread the load between jack and fiberglass seat pan.  When I started lifting, fiberglass cracking, car with chassis came off jack stands.

       I keep looking for sheet metal screws or other fasteners, can find nothing.  The car is stripped.  No mechanicals, no electrical, no doors, glass, nothing, bare shell.  Tomorrow I will get up on the lift and perhaps there something under I am not aware of.  Hand brake is off car.  Any ideas as to what could be retaining the body?  The fiberglass sills fit tight against the metal lower chassis tubes.  Ran a tool between fiberglass sills and lower chassis tubes. Any suggestions or  ideas as to what is going on?  Thank you for the time and advice.  Steve V.  Marcos in Arizona
    

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Steve, I forgot about the factory undercoating, I always remove ALL of it from the under body and paint it with gloss black poly urethane, which not only looks great and easy to keep clean, but makes it easier to slip back in to the frame.You will most likely want to replace the bottom frame rails if they are very rusty, The right rail is slightly longer than the left side. I would suggest doing them one at a time to maintain the rigidity of the frame and keep it square.

Regards,
Larry 

    On Wednesday, August 8, 2018, 8:42:49 PM EDT, hide809rig169@... [MarcosManiacs] <MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com> wrote:  
 
     


At long last making some type of progress on the Marcos project.  Problem, body does not want to come off of chassis.  As far as I can tell, all sheet metal screws are out, including two in fuel tank area.  Rear leading arm bolts are out (Had to drill heads off and grind).   Rear of body is moving up and down, movement stops at seat back bulkhead.  Could it be that the foam between the steel chassis and fiberglass body is acting as an adhesive?  I made an, "L" shaped tool to fit on top of the chassis sills to break the foam away.  Tried to run tool between chassis and fiberglass, tight fit but it did move along top of chassis sill.  As per other posts, installed floor jacks under seat pans.  Of course plywood to spread the load between jack and fiberglass seat pan.  When I started lifting, fiberglass cracking, car with chassis came off jack stands.

       I keep looking for sheet metal screws or other fasteners, can find nothing.  The car is stripped.  No mechanicals, no electrical, no doors, glass, nothing, bare shell.  Tomorrow I will get up on the lift and perhaps there something under I am not aware of.  Hand brake is off car.  Any ideas as to what could be retaining the body?  The fiberglass sills fit tight against the metal lower chassis tubes.  Ran a tool between fiberglass sills and lower chassis tubes. Any suggestions or  ideas as to what is going on?  Thank you for the time and advice.  Steve V.  Marcos in Arizona
    

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