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2006-01-13 by Mike Sullivan
Recently purchased an 1986 Mantula #8153 that has no front sway bar. Any help on getting a source would be greatly appreciated. Mike S. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
2006-01-13 by Christian Fey
Marcos Factory did not fit to the Mantula a front sway bar. Depending on the position of the radiator the original TR Vitesse / GT6 can be fitted. More effective in my view is to fit one on the rear axle. See also the chat for this theme in the English Marcos Forum. CF Mantula --- In MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com, Mike Sullivan <tvrm2001@y...> wrote:
> > Recently purchased an 1986 Mantula #8153 that has no > front sway bar. Any help on getting a source would be > greatly appreciated. > > Mike S. > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com >
2006-01-13 by Mike Sullivan
Thanks I will look into this, btw the rear is a solid axle. --- Christian Fey <Baufi-Fey@...> wrote: > Marcos Factory did not fit to the Mantula a front > sway bar. Depending > on the position of the radiator the original TR > Vitesse / GT6 can be > fitted. More effective in my view is to fit one on > the rear axle. > > See also the chat for this theme in the English > Marcos Forum. > > CF Mantula > > > > > --- In MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com, Mike Sullivan > <tvrm2001@y...> > wrote: > > > > Recently purchased an 1986 Mantula #8153 that has > no > > front sway bar. Any help on getting a source > would be > > greatly appreciated. > > > > Mike S. > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > protection around > > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
2006-01-13 by ukcadsev
Here's the link to the thread in the forum - http://p206.ezboard.com/fmarcossportscarenthusiastsfrm1.showMessage?topicID=951.topic
I'm "Nixfix" on there, and have a live axle with rear sway bar, all fully rose jointed, 50%LSD on a 3.09 axle. No sway bar fitted up front, and can't say that it needs it. There's a couple of pictures in the above thread of my rear setup.
Nick.
--- In MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com, Mike Sullivan wrote:
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> Thanks I will look into this, btw the rear is a solid
> axle.
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> --- Christian Fey Baufi-Fey@w... wrote:
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> > Marcos Factory did not fit to the Mantula a front
> > sway bar. Depending
> > on the position of the radiator the original TR
> > Vitesse / GT6 can be
> > fitted. More effective in my view is to fit one on
> > the rear axle.
> >
> >; See also the chat for this theme in the English
> > Marcos Forum.
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> > CF Mantula
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> >
> >
> > --- In MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com, Mike Sullivan
> > tvrm2001@y...
> > wrote:
> > >;
> > > Recently purchased an 1986 Mantula #8153 that has
> > no
> > > front sway bar. Any help on getting a source
> > would be
> > > greatly appreciated.
> > >
> > > Mike S.
> > >
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2006-01-26 by Garry Diver
Mike, My thoughts on fitting Sway bars. I have fitted a 1 inch sway bar to the front of my steel frame 3 liter and you can see the mounting if you go to my website and look at the pictures in the Racing section. www.marcospartsusa.com However, before making the decision you really need to decide the current handling characteristics and whether they suit your driving needs. Then you have to look at the effect of not just a sway bar, but springs and dampers. Here is what I did with the rationale( remember mine is excusively for racing). Since the 3 liter motor is very heavy I chose 350lb front springs and a 1" bar, to to combat the tendency for the car to roll over the outside front tyre on heavy cornering, and help transfer some of the weight to the inside front wheel. On the rear, I use 160lb springs and no sway bar to allow some compliance in the rear and reduce the tendency to hop on corner exit. The result is a neutral handling car on fast corners with a slight oversteer on slow and medium corners which can be controlled through the throttle. While I have not yet reached the full potential of the car, which may mean some changes, it handles well in the dry and is predictable in the wet where we can worry the Porsche 911's. The Bar is from a Triumph Spitfire, slightly modified and the mountings are my own design. I should say however that Marcos did a pretty good job on the basic design and should probably be Ok for the street. If you decide to go with a bar, let me know and i can supply one. Garry Diver
>From: Mike Sullivan <tvrm2001@...> >Reply-To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com >To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com >Subject: Re: [MarcosManiacs] Re: 84 Marcos Mantula - Sway Bar >Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2006 09:12:25 -0800 (PST) > > > > > >Thanks I will look into this, btw the rear is a solid > >axle. > > > >--- Christian Fey <Baufi-Fey@...> wrote: > > > > > Marcos Factory did not fit to the Mantula a front > > > sway bar. Depending > > > on the position of the radiator the original TR > > > Vitesse / GT6 can be > > > fitted. More effective in my view is to fit one on > > > the rear axle. > > > > > > See also the chat for this theme in the English > > > Marcos Forum. > > > > > > CF Mantula > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com, Mike Sullivan > > > <tvrm2001@y...> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Recently purchased an 1986 Mantula #8153 that has > > > no > > > > front sway bar.\ufffd Any help on getting a source > > > would be > > > > greatly appreciated. > > > > > > > > Mike S. > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > > Do You Yahoo!? > > > > Tired of spam?\ufffd Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > > > protection around > > > > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >__________________________________________________ > >Do You Yahoo!? > >Tired of spam?\ufffd Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > >http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > > > \ufffdVisit your group "MarcosManiacs" on the web. >\ufffd > \ufffdTo unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: >\ufffdMarcosManiacs-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com >\ufffd > \ufffdYour use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
2006-01-26 by Mike Sullivan
I have finally driven the car about 50 miles (combined highway at speeds up to 75 and in town with some full throttle straight line acceleration up to 60 mph.
2006-01-26 by Garry Diver
Mike, I have the door rubbers. Do you need both sides? Garry
>From: Mike Sullivan <tvrm2001@...> >Reply-To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com >To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com >Subject: Re: [MarcosManiacs] Re: 84 Marcos Mantula - Sway Bar >Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 05:51:22 -0800 (PST) > > > > > >I have finally driven the car about 50 miles (combined > >highway at speeds up to 75 and in town with some full > >throttle straight line acceleration up to 60 mph. > >Some mild cornering and the body is flat.\ufffd Got to > >remember that the car only has 10K on the motor and > >had not been started in over 10 years (consider > >breaking in the motor again!!!!)\ufffd The car is fitted > >with the solid axle with the support / frame > >connections being rather simple (I own a 74 TVR 2500M > >with a beautifully designed IRS using the TR6 > >differential, 4.1 BTW).\ufffd Right now the car rides > >rather stiff (more so that the TVR with I do > >autocross).\ufffd I am considering try to soften up the > >ride to make it more of a daily driver (the car looks > >exotic it would be nice if it rode more like today > >corvettes / vipers , but I am sure that is a wish) > > > >BTW how about a source for the door gaskets?\ufffd Also > >since the car was a calif car the heater control were > >never completed.\ufffd I have the two slide levers with > >nothing attached, no blower motor and no temperature > >control valve.\ufffd It does have a nicely installed A/C > >system though!\ufffd I am also looking for the trim piece > >for the fiberglass fender to finish the edges (it > >looks like the same item that TVR used).\ufffd Other than > >that the car is ready to be driven. > > > >I will say that a my first gas station trip that no > >less than 4 people came a looked at the car and asked > >questions and commented about its look, I don't get > >that much attention in the TVR even as rare as it is > >it has the look of something one has seen before > >whereas the Marcos does not. > > > >Well enough said.... > > > >Mike > >#8153 V8 > > > >--- Garry Diver <garrydiver@...> wrote: > > > > > Mike, > > >\ufffd\ufffd\ufffd My thoughts on fitting Sway bars. > > > > > > I have fitted a 1 inch sway bar to the front of my > > > steel frame 3 liter and > > > you can see the mounting if you go to my website and > > > look at the pictures in > > > the Racing section. > > > > > > www.marcospartsusa.com > > > > > > However, before making the decision you really need > > > to decide the current > > > handling characteristics and whether they suit your > > > driving needs. Then you > > > have to look at the effect of not just a sway bar, > > > but springs and dampers. > > > > > > Here is what I did with the rationale( remember mine > > > is excusively for > > > racing). > > > > > > Since the 3 liter motor is very heavy I chose 350lb > > > front springs and a 1" > > > bar, to to combat the tendency for the car to roll > > > over the outside front > > > tyre on heavy cornering, and help transfer some of > > > the weight to the inside > > > front wheel.\ufffd On the rear, I use 160lb springs and > > > no sway bar to allow some > > > compliance in the rear and reduce the tendency to > > > hop on corner exit. The > > > result is a neutral handling car on fast corners > > > with a slight oversteer on > > > slow and medium corners which can be controlled > > > through the throttle.\ufffd While > > > I have not yet reached the full potential of the > > > car, which may mean some > > > changes, it handles well in the dry and is > > > predictable in the wet where we > > > can worry the Porsche 911's. > > > > > > The Bar is from a Triumph Spitfire, slightly > > > modified and the mountings are > > > my own design. > > > > > > I should say however that Marcos did a pretty good > > > job on the basic design > > > and should probably be Ok for the street. > > > > > > If you decide to go with a bar, let me know and i > > > can supply one. > > > > > > Garry Diver > > > > > > > > > >From: Mike Sullivan <tvrm2001@...> > > > >Reply-To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com > > > >To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com > > > >Subject: Re: [MarcosManiacs] Re: 84 Marcos Mantula > > > - Sway Bar > > > >Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2006 09:12:25 -0800 (PST) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Thanks I will look into this, btw the rear is a > > > solid > > > > > > > >axle. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >--- Christian Fey <Baufi-Fey@...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marcos Factory did not fit to the Mantula a > > > front > > > > > > > > > sway bar. Depending > > > > > > > > > on the position of the radiator the original TR > > > > > > > > > Vitesse / GT6 can be > > > > > > > > > fitted. More effective in my view is to fit one > > > on > > > > > > > > > the rear axle. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > See also the chat for this theme in the English > > > > > > > > > Marcos Forum. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > CF Mantula > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com, Mike > > > Sullivan > > > > > > > > > <tvrm2001@y...> > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Recently purchased an 1986 Mantula #8153 that > > > has > > > > > > > > > no > > > > > > > > > > front sway bar.\ufffd Any help on getting a source > > > > > > > > > would be > > > > > > > > > > greatly appreciated. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mike S. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > Do You Yahoo!? > > > > > > > > > > Tired of spam?\ufffd Yahoo! 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2006-01-26 by Mike Sullivan
yes --- Garry Diver <garrydiver@...> wrote: > Mike, > I have the door rubbers. Do you need both sides? > > Garry > > > >From: Mike Sullivan <tvrm2001@...> > >Reply-To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com > >To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com > >Subject: Re: [MarcosManiacs] Re: 84 Marcos Mantula > - Sway Bar > >Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 05:51:22 -0800 (PST) > > > > > > > > > > > >I have finally driven the car about 50 miles > (combined > > > >highway at speeds up to 75 and in town with some > full > > > >throttle straight line acceleration up to 60 mph. > > > >Some mild cornering and the body is flat.\ufffd Got to > > > >remember that the car only has 10K on the motor and > > > >had not been started in over 10 years (consider > > > >breaking in the motor again!!!!)\ufffd The car is fitted > > > >with the solid axle with the support / frame > > > >connections being rather simple (I own a 74 TVR > 2500M > > > >with a beautifully designed IRS using the TR6 > > > >differential, 4.1 BTW).\ufffd Right now the car rides > > > >rather stiff (more so that the TVR with I do > > > >autocross).\ufffd I am considering try to soften up the > > > >ride to make it more of a daily driver (the car > looks > > > >exotic it would be nice if it rode more like today > > > >corvettes / vipers , but I am sure that is a wish) > > > > > > > >BTW how about a source for the door gaskets?\ufffd Also > > > >since the car was a calif car the heater control > were > > > >never completed.\ufffd I have the two slide levers with > > > >nothing attached, no blower motor and no > temperature > > > >control valve.\ufffd It does have a nicely installed A/C > > > >system though!\ufffd I am also looking for the trim > piece > > > >for the fiberglass fender to finish the edges (it > > > >looks like the same item that TVR used).\ufffd Other > than > > > >that the car is ready to be driven. > > > > > > > >I will say that a my first gas station trip that no > > > >less than 4 people came a looked at the car and > asked > > > >questions and commented about its look, I don't get > > > >that much attention in the TVR even as rare as it > is > > > >it has the look of something one has seen before > > > >whereas the Marcos does not. > > > > > > > >Well enough said.... > > > > > > > >Mike > > > >#8153 V8 > > > > > > > >--- Garry Diver <garrydiver@...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Mike, > > > > >\ufffd\ufffd\ufffd My thoughts on fitting Sway bars. > > > > > > > > > > I have fitted a 1 inch sway bar to the front of > my > > > > > steel frame 3 liter and > > > > > you can see the mounting if you go to my website > and > > > > > look at the pictures in > > > > > the Racing section. > > > > > > > > > > www.marcospartsusa.com > > > > > > > > > > However, before making the decision you really > need > > > > > to decide the current > > > > > handling characteristics and whether they suit > your > > > > > driving needs. Then you > > > > > have to look at the effect of not just a sway > bar, > > > > > but springs and dampers. > > > > > > > > > > Here is what I did with the rationale( remember > mine > > > > > is excusively for > > > > > racing). > > > > > > > > > > Since the 3 liter motor is very heavy I chose > 350lb > > > > > front springs and a 1" > > > > > bar, to to combat the tendency for the car to > roll > > > > > over the outside front > > > > > tyre on heavy cornering, and help transfer some > of > > > > > the weight to the inside > > > > > front wheel.\ufffd On the rear, I use 160lb springs > and > > > > > no sway bar to allow some > > > > > compliance in the rear and reduce the tendency > to > > > > > hop on corner exit. The > > > > > result is a neutral handling car on fast corners > > > > > with a slight oversteer on > > > > > slow and medium corners which can be controlled > > > > > through the throttle.\ufffd While > > > > > I have not yet reached the full potential of the > > > > > car, which may mean some > > > > > changes, it handles well in the dry and is > > > > > predictable in the wet where we > > > > > can worry the Porsche 911's. > === message truncated === __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
2006-01-26 by Garry Diver
OK, Send me a picture of the trim piece you are lookng for (if you have the other side). Garryi
>From: Mike Sullivan <tvrm2001@...> >Reply-To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com >To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com >Subject: Re: [MarcosManiacs] Re: 84 Marcos Mantula - Sway Bar >Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 07:14:55 -0800 (PST) > > > > > >yes > > > >--- Garry Diver <garrydiver@...> wrote: > > > > > Mike, > > >\ufffd\ufffd I have the door rubbers. Do you need both sides? > > > > > > Garry > > > > > > > > > >From: Mike Sullivan <tvrm2001@...> > > > >Reply-To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com > > > >To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com > > > >Subject: Re: [MarcosManiacs] Re: 84 Marcos Mantula > > > - Sway Bar > > > >Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 05:51:22 -0800 (PST) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >I have finally driven the car about 50 miles > > > (combined > > > > > > > >highway at speeds up to 75 and in town with some > > > full > > > > > > > >throttle straight line acceleration up to 60 mph. > > > > > > > >Some mild cornering and the body is flat.\ufffd Got to > > > > > > > >remember that the car only has 10K on the motor and > > > > > > > >had not been started in over 10 years (consider > > > > > > > >breaking in the motor again!!!!)\ufffd The car is fitted > > > > > > > >with the solid axle with the support / frame > > > > > > > >connections being rather simple (I own a 74 TVR > > > 2500M > > > > > > > >with a beautifully designed IRS using the TR6 > > > > > > > >differential, 4.1 BTW).\ufffd Right now the car rides > > > > > > > >rather stiff (more so that the TVR with I do > > > > > > > >autocross).\ufffd I am considering try to soften up the > > > > > > > >ride to make it more of a daily driver (the car > > > looks > > > > > > > >exotic it would be nice if it rode more like today > > > > > > > >corvettes / vipers , but I am sure that is a wish) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >BTW how about a source for the door gaskets?\ufffd Also > > > > > > > >since the car was a calif car the heater control > > > were > > > > > > > >never completed.\ufffd I have the two slide levers with > > > > > > > >nothing attached, no blower motor and no > > > temperature > > > > > > > >control valve.\ufffd It does have a nicely installed A/C > > > > > > > >system though!\ufffd I am also looking for the trim > > > piece > > > > > > > >for the fiberglass fender to finish the edges (it > > > > > > > >looks like the same item that TVR used).\ufffd Other > > > than > > > > > > > >that the car is ready to be driven. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >I will say that a my first gas station trip that no > > > > > > > >less than 4 people came a looked at the car and > > > asked > > > > > > > >questions and commented about its look, I don't get > > > > > > > >that much attention in the TVR even as rare as it > > > is > > > > > > > >it has the look of something one has seen before > > > > > > > >whereas the Marcos does not. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Well enough said.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Mike > > > > > > > >#8153 V8 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >--- Garry Diver <garrydiver@...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mike, > > > > > > > > >\ufffd\ufffd\ufffd My thoughts on fitting Sway bars. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have fitted a 1 inch sway bar to the front of > > > my > > > > > > > > > steel frame 3 liter and > > > > > > > > > you can see the mounting if you go to my website > > > and > > > > > > > > > look at the pictures in > > > > > > > > > the Racing section. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > www.marcospartsusa.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > However, before making the decision you really > > > need > > > > > > > > > to decide the current > > > > > > > > > handling characteristics and whether they suit > > > your > > > > > > > > > driving needs. Then you > > > > > > > > > have to look at the effect of not just a sway > > > bar, > > > > > > > > > but springs and dampers. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is what I did with the rationale( remember > > > mine > > > > > > > > > is excusively for > > > > > > > > > racing). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Since the 3 liter motor is very heavy I chose > > > 350lb > > > > > > > > > front springs and a 1" > > > > > > > > > bar, to to combat the tendency for the car to > > > roll > > > > > > > > > over the outside front > > > > > > > > > tyre on heavy cornering, and help transfer some > > > of > > > > > > > > > the weight to the inside > > > > > > > > > front wheel.\ufffd On the rear, I use 160lb springs > > > and > > > > > > > > > no sway bar to allow some > > > > > > > > > compliance in the rear and reduce the tendency > > > to > > > > > > > > > hop on corner exit. The > > > > > > > > > result is a neutral handling car on fast corners > > > > > > > > > with a slight oversteer on > > > > > > > > > slow and medium corners which can be controlled > > > > > > > > > through the throttle.\ufffd While > > > > > > > > > I have not yet reached the full potential of the > > > > > > > > > car, which may mean some > > > > > > > > > changes, it handles well in the dry and is > > > > > > > > > predictable in the wet where we > > > > > > > > > can worry the Porsche 911's. > > > > >=== message truncated === > > > > > >__________________________________________________ > >Do You Yahoo!? > >Tired of spam?\ufffd Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > >http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > > > \ufffdVisit your group "MarcosManiacs" on the web. >\ufffd > \ufffdTo unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: >\ufffdMarcosManiacs-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com >\ufffd > \ufffdYour use of Yahoo! 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