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trying to set margins but always ends up about 1/8"

trying to set margins but always ends up about 1/8"

2017-05-27 by paulmwhiting@...

I searched the Conversations the best I could but can't find the answer to my problem. I'm trying to set my margins in the 1/2" to 1" range but always get about 1/8" when I print. Am using a Windows 10 computer and an Epson 1400 printer and the paper sizes are usually 8 1/2 x 11 (the Letter setting) or sometimes half that, ie 8 1/2 x 5 1/2, a half sheet. For the half sheet I use the Custom Size setting. I've tried scaling the print in QTR, and sometimes scaling the print in Photoshop to the exact size for QTR, in which case I set the size in QTR to 100%.

Should I upgrade to 2.7.7? I didn't think I needed to because when Roy was asking for beta testers for the new quadprofile.exe I participated. That fixed the Curve Creator problem for me. He made available that profile for us to test which I believe later was incorporated in 2.7.7. I'm not sure this has anything to do with my margins problem but thought I'd better mention it.

I tried shutting down my computer and printer and restarting QTR but that didn't work.

I had this problem a few years ago but it was because I was sizing my print outside of QTR by using a utility called Fastone. When I sized a print in Photoshop (Elements) I had better luck. But sizing a print in PS didn't work for me this time.

Thanks all... sorry to have to post this, but I couldn't find this issue in older threads. I tried!


Paul

Re: [QuadtoneRIP] trying to set margins but always ends up about 1/8"

2017-05-28 by Paul Roark

Hi Paul W.,

​I am now on a Windows 10 pc (MS Surface Studio). Here is what I get with letter size paper and a 7.5 x 9.5 inch image that is centered in QTR: Top and Bottom very close to 3/4". Right side is 9/16"; left side is 7/16". So, there is about 1/8" error coming from somewhere.

I'm not sure if that is what you're seeing or if there is some other issue.

Paul


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On Sat, May 27, 2017 at 2:07 PM, paulmwhiting@... [QuadtoneRIP] <QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

I searched the Conversations the best I could but can't find the answer to my problem. I'm trying to set my margins in the 1/2" to 1" range but always get about 1/8"; when I print. Am using a Windows 10 computer and an Epson 1400 printer and the paper sizes are usually 8 1/2 x 11 (the Letter setting) or sometimes half that, ie 8 1/2 x 5 1/2, a half sheet. For the half sheet I use the Custom Size setting. I've tried scaling the print in QTR, and sometimes scaling the print in Photoshop to the exact size for QTR, in which case I set the size in QTR to 100%.

Should I upgrade to 2.7.7? I didn't think I needed to because when Roy was asking for beta testers for the new quadprofile.exe I participated. That fixed the Curve Creator problem for me. He made available that profile for us to test which I believe later was incorporated in 2.7.7. I'm not sure this has anything to do with my margins problem but thought I'd better mention it.

I tried shutting down my computer and printer and restarting QTR but that didn't work.

I had this problem a few years ago but it was because I was sizing my print outside of QTR by using a utility called Fastone. When I sized a print in Photoshop (Elements) I had better luck. But sizing a print in PS didn't work for me this time.

Thanks all... sorry to have to post this, but I couldn't find this issue in older threads. I tried!


Paul


Re: [QuadtoneRIP] trying to set margins but always ends up about 1/8"

2017-05-28 by Roy Harrington

A couple things:

1/8in is always the minimum border for QTR driver -- pro printers have minimum of .56in on the bottom.
Borderless is not supported in any way.

From your second post it sounds like you are having a size issue. I'd suspect this is due to some .jpg issues.
TIFF files are recommended for QTR driver.

Finally for the 1/16in positioning issue -- that sounds like a printer mechanical issue such as the paper feed
is just a little off or paper size itself is a little off. It's pretty much impossible that Win 7 vs Win 10 could affect this.

Roy

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On Sun, May 28, 2017 at 5:44 AM, paulmwhiting@yahoo.com [QuadtoneRIP] <QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


Thanks, Paul, that's what I used to get... now it's a thin 1/8" all around (well, at least on three sides). I canceled the print before going all the way).

Paul




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Re: [QuadtoneRIP] trying to set margins but always ends up about 1/8"

2017-05-28 by paulmwhiting@...

Thanks, Roy... I saved my jpg photo as a tiff file and all went well!

By the way, I decided to try the jpg one more time... thought maybe an overnight downtime would let any mischief dissipate. This morning not only were my margins still very narrow, but today I let the jpg photo proceed more in the printer - and only a portion of the image showed, so it must have been printing the full original size.

What's odd is that about a week ago my prints were properly sized, and the margins were as I set them. I'd forgotten about tiff files... I do remember now that I think about it is that earlier versions of QTR would accept only tiffs but I thought newer versions had been fixed to accept jpgs. I thought the problem was that I was using a small but very useful utility called Fastone and this program had some quirks. I started to resize in Photoshop and this worked fine until just recently.

I take my photos in jpg... the only other option is RAW. So changing to tiff slows down my work flow - but I'll keep experimenting, no worries! I don't want to sound critical, all in all, QTR is a wonderful program, thank you for making it available to the print community.

Best regards,

Paul W.

Re: trying to set margins but always ends up about 1/8"

2017-05-30 by paulmwhiting@...

Roy,

I might install the current version, but do it by first deleting my QTR rather than installing over the existing install. Should I first backup my Profiles and Quad folders to a thumb drive or somewhere to avoid losing my own profiles and corresponding quadfiles?

Maybe a fresh version would cure my sizing issues.

Thank you,

Paul

Re: [QuadtoneRIP] Re: trying to set margins but always ends up about 1/8"

2017-05-30 by Roy Harrington

You should always save personal work -- curves etc.
2.7.7 is needed to Windows 10 with curve creation.

I thought your previous post said it all worked.

Roy
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On Tue, May 30, 2017 at 6:10 AM, paulmwhiting@... [QuadtoneRIP] <QuadtoneRIP@...m> wrote:


Roy,

I might install the current version, but do it by first deleting my QTR rather than installing over the existing install. Should I first backup my Profiles and Quad folders to a thumb drive or somewhere to avoid losing my own profiles and corresponding quadfiles?

Maybe a fresh version would cure my sizing issues.

Thank you,

Paul




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Re: trying to set margins but always ends up about 1/8"

2017-05-30 by paulmwhiting@...

Sorry Roy, I wasn't very clear. It all works except for when it comes to print, and the print size cannot be reduced in QTR - so the margins are at their minimum. I would even say resizing and margin width were OK up until just before my first message.

I'll save my personal qidf and quad files before deleting my current install of QTR. It's been my experience that sometimes glitches can be fixed with a clean install as opposed to an overwrite.

Stay tuned - I'll post results.

Thank you,

Paul

Re: trying to set margins but always ends up about 1/8"

2017-05-31 by paulmwhiting@...

Good news, Roy, I'm able to control margins again, even with jpg files.

Rather than install 2.7.7 over my 2.7.0, I decided to make a clean install. So after backing up my personal qidf and quad files to a thumb drive, I deleted 2.7.0., downloaded 2.7.7, installed it, and printed both a tiff and a jpg with my choice of margins.

It's odd, because I was one of your beta testers when you did some changes to quadprofile.exe to enable more friendly use of Curve Creator and, correct if I'm wrong, the current 2.7.7 incorporates those changes. My installed beta version of quadfile.exe worked fine for several weeks so I didn't see the need to install 2.7.7.

Whatever, the clean install seems to be what got my margins behaving again.

Thank you!

Paul

Re: trying to set margins but always ends up about 1/8"

2017-06-01 by paulmwhiting@...

I should add the issue wasn't just the margins... I wasn't able to reduce a large jpg so it all fit the paper. Consequently only a portion of the image filled the whole page, with the minimum margins of 1/8". So resizing and margins are really related.

Paul W.

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