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Banding...

2018-11-07 by ramesh_adkoli@...

I recently bought an EPSON P800 printer. I print black and white images using QTR on this. Yesterday I noticed banding in the shadow areas on a print. Bands (showing variations in tonality) were perpendicular to the direction of motion of print heads.


My Settings:

I printed on Epson Archival Matte paper. I used UCmk-EnhMatte-Neut as Curve 1 and rest of the curves as blank. Resolution is 1440 dpi, Unidirectional Speed and Matte Ink. Rest all defaults.


I did head alignment but to now avail. Nozzles are very clean as shown by nozzle check. Any idea what might be causing this? And how to resolve this?


BTW, I printed this image directly from PhotoShop. That print did not have such banding.



Appreciate your help.


Regards,
Ramesh


Re: [QuadtoneRIP] Banding...

2018-11-07 by Mark Savoia

Have you tried just using the ABW feature of the printer?

Mark
stillrivereditions.com
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> On Nov 7, 2018, at 8:18 AM, ramesh_adkoli@... [QuadtoneRIP] <QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
> 
> I recently bought an EPSON P800 printer.  I print black and white images using QTR on this.  Yesterday I noticed banding in the shadow areas on a print.  Bands (showing variations in tonality) were perpendicular to the direction of motion of print heads.  

> My Settings:
> I printed on Epson Archival Matte paper.  I used UCmk-EnhMatte-Neut as Curve 1 and rest of the curves as blank.  Resolution is 1440 dpi, Unidirectional Speed and Matte Ink.  Rest all defaults.
> I did head alignment but to now avail.  Nozzles are very clean as shown by nozzle check.  Any idea what might be causing this?  And how to resolve this?
> 
> BTW, I printed this image directly from PhotoShop.  That print did not have such banding.
> 
> Appreciate your help.
> 

> Regards,
> 
> Ramesh
> 
> 
>

Re: Banding...

2018-11-07 by ramesh_adkoli@...

Yes. When I printed using Photoshop, I used the ABW option. There wasn't any banding in the print.

Re: [QuadtoneRIP] Re: Banding...

2018-11-07 by Mark Savoia

So what not just use that to print?

Mark
stillrivereditions.com
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> On Nov 7, 2018, at 10:39 AM, ramesh_adkoli@... [QuadtoneRIP] <QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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> 
> 
> Yes.  When I printed using Photoshop, I used the ABW option.  There wasn't any banding in the print.

Re: Banding...

2018-11-07 by ramesh_adkoli@...

I didn't get the question, Mark. If you mean, why not just use ABW instead of QTR, then the answer is that QTR gives me much better tonal spread and rendition that ABW.

As I stated in OP, I have an issue when I print through QTR. If some expert users here can help me, much appreciate that.

Re: Banding...

2018-11-07 by brian_downunda@...

Ramesh

I would always print at 2880 uni-directional when using QTR, even though I'd probably only print at 1440 on matte when using ABW (which I do only rarely). If you're still seeing banding on a P800 at 2880 then I'd print at 2880 super.

As I said to you on the DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint group, this setting was introduced by Roy specifically to deal with banding on the P800 - mostly on transparency for digital negative, but there are one or two people who claim to have seen it in prints on paper. You asked where to find this setting. This will depend on whether you're on Mac or Win, but it should be an option in the same place that you set 1440. In Win it's under Resolution. You'll need the latest version of QTR to see the 2880 Super setting, and it's only available for certain printers. It's not an option for the 3880 for example.

You may also want to look at your nozzle check under a magnifier such as a loupe. A nozzle check can appear good to the naked eye, but in fact have hard-to-see irregularities that indicate misfiring nozzles.


---In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, <ramesh_adkoli@...> wrote :

I recently bought an EPSON P800 printer. I print black and white images using QTR on this. Yesterday I noticed banding in the shadow areas on a print. Bands (showing variations in tonality) were perpendicular to the direction of motion of print heads.


My Settings:

I printed on Epson Archival Matte paper. I used UCmk-EnhMatte-Neut as Curve 1 and rest of the curves as blank. Resolution is 1440 dpi, Unidirectional Speed and Matte Ink. Rest all defaults.


I did head alignment but to now avail. Nozzles are very clean as shown by nozzle check. Any idea what might be causing this? And how to resolve this?


BTW, I printed this image directly from PhotoShop. That print did not have such banding.



Appreciate your help.


Regards,
Ramesh


Re: Banding...

2018-11-08 by ramesh_adkoli@...

Thanks, Brian. I have inspected the nozzle check under a loupe. It is clean.

I found the Super 2880 setting on QTRgui. I will try it today and post here with the results.

Re: Banding...

2018-11-08 by ramesh_adkoli@...

I printed the same image with 2880 Super setting. The banding disappeared. Thanks a lot for the help, Brian.

Re: Banding...

2018-11-08 by brian_downunda@...

That's good to hear Ramesh. If you are prepared to experiment, what would be of interest to readers of this forum is whether moving from 1440 to 2880 is enough to get rid of the banding, or whether 2880 Super really is needed on your printer. 2880 Super is a good option to have, but by golly it's slow.

Re: Banding...

2018-11-08 by ramesh_adkoli@...

As of now, I directly switched to 2880 Super. For me the speed of printing is not a consideration. Hence, 2880 Super works well for me. If I try 2880, I will report the results here, Brian.

Re: Banding...

2018-11-09 by skapuskar@...

I have printed positives with 2880 without banding on a P800 (banding was present at 1440). I did not notice any difference printing with 2880super, as mentioned before, it takes about twice as long to print.
I do like the 2880super for digital neg printing, it results in a slightly higher density.
When making your profiles, make sure to always use the same resolution setting for printing.

Sidney

Re: Banding...

2018-11-14 by ramesh_adkoli@...

Thanks for the input, Sidney

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