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quadtone and epson 2200

2006-05-08 by theimer24

I am using quadtone for the first time and I can't seem to find my 
paper in the drop down list. I use Red River Ultra Pro Satin which 
equals Epson Premium Lustre Photo Paper. Is there a type of paper in 
the list that's a good match? Also, I have the help file, but if 
anyone can send me an easy step by step for getting good black and 
white like you would from tmax film and darkroom paper, I would really 
appreciate it.

RE: [QuadtoneRIP] quadtone and epson 2200

2006-05-08 by Tom Moore

You don't state which inkset. Assuming you're using Epson UC ink, you should
be using the Epson2200 Printing Model. That would give you a variety of
papers using the PK ink, designed for gloss type papers. You could try the
curves for Epson premium Semigloss or the MC Ceramic Lustre as starters.

These will all result in at least some degree of bronzing. You can reduce
the bronzing effect after printing by using a spray such as Premier Art
Print Shield.

Tom Moore

> -----Original Message-----
> From: QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com [mailto:QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com] On
> Behalf Of theimer24
> Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 5:21 PM
> To: QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [QuadtoneRIP] quadtone and epson 2200
> 
> I am using quadtone for the first time and I can't seem to find my
> paper in the drop down list. I use Red River Ultra Pro Satin which
...

Re: quadtone and epson 2200

2006-05-12 by Dave

It's funny this question comes up just as I'm wondering the same 
thing.

Is there a way to "teach" QTR about different papers in that drop 
down or is it accomplished through the curves choices? If it's 
curves, do I have to create my own curves for all different papers 
or can QTR take advantage of the profiles that come from the paper 
vendors?

The version of QTR I'm using, 2.3.12, only shows printing models 
that start with the word "Quad". I've been assuming I should use 
Quad2200 since I use an Epson 2200. Is that the right choice or 
should I really have an "Epson2200" choice?

thanks,
Dave

--- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "Tom Moore" <r.t.moore@...> 
wrote:
>
> You don't state which inkset. Assuming you're using Epson UC ink, 
you should
> be using the Epson2200 Printing Model. That would give you a 
variety of
> papers using the PK ink, designed for gloss type papers. You could 
try the
> curves for Epson premium Semigloss or the MC Ceramic Lustre as 
starters.
> 
> These will all result in at least some degree of bronzing. You can 
reduce
> the bronzing effect after printing by using a spray such as 
Premier Art
> Print Shield.
> 
> Tom Moore
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com 
[mailto:QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com] On
> > Behalf Of theimer24
> > Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 5:21 PM
> > To: QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [QuadtoneRIP] quadtone and epson 2200
> > 
> > I am using quadtone for the first time and I can't seem to find 
my
> > paper in the drop down list. I use Red River Ultra Pro Satin 
which
> ...
>

RE: [QuadtoneRIP] Re: quadtone and epson 2200

2006-05-12 by Stephen Billard

The list of papers is in the PPD file for the printer. Typically, these are the
same as the list you would get from the printer driver. You could delete items
from the list. (Look for "MediaType" in the file.) However, I don't think it
would do any good to add any.  


-Stephen
 www.sbillard.org/Stephen
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-----Original Message-----
From: QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com [mailto:QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Dave
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2006 2:55 PM
To: QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [QuadtoneRIP] Re: quadtone and epson 2200

It's funny this question comes up just as I'm wondering the same thing.

Is there a way to "teach" QTR about different papers in that drop down or is it
accomplished through the curves choices? If it's curves, do I have to create my
own curves for all different papers or can QTR take advantage of the profiles
that come from the paper vendors?

The version of QTR I'm using, 2.3.12, only shows printing models that start with
the word "Quad". I've been assuming I should use Quad2200 since I use an Epson
2200. Is that the right choice or should I really have an "Epson2200" choice?

thanks,
Dave

--- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "Tom Moore" <r.t.moore@...>
wrote:
>
> You don't state which inkset. Assuming you're using Epson UC ink,
you should
> be using the Epson2200 Printing Model. That would give you a
variety of
> papers using the PK ink, designed for gloss type papers. You could
try the
> curves for Epson premium Semigloss or the MC Ceramic Lustre as
starters.
> 
> These will all result in at least some degree of bronzing. You can
reduce
> the bronzing effect after printing by using a spray such as
Premier Art
> Print Shield.
> 
> Tom Moore
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com] On
> > Behalf Of theimer24
> > Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 5:21 PM
> > To: QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [QuadtoneRIP] quadtone and epson 2200
> > 
> > I am using quadtone for the first time and I can't seem to find
my
> > paper in the drop down list. I use Red River Ultra Pro Satin
which
> ...
>







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RE: [QuadtoneRIP] Re: quadtone and epson 2200

2006-05-12 by Stephen Billard

All the printing models start with "Quad". Use the Quad2200 model that
corresponds with the Ink you have loaded. (Quad2200 is for the Epson
cartridges.)


-Stephen
 www.sbillard.org/Stephen
Show quoted textHide quoted text
-----Original Message-----
From: QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com [mailto:QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Dave
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2006 2:55 PM
To: QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [QuadtoneRIP] Re: quadtone and epson 2200

It's funny this question comes up just as I'm wondering the same thing.

Is there a way to "teach" QTR about different papers in that drop down or is it
accomplished through the curves choices? If it's curves, do I have to create my
own curves for all different papers or can QTR take advantage of the profiles
that come from the paper vendors?

The version of QTR I'm using, 2.3.12, only shows printing models that start with
the word "Quad". I've been assuming I should use Quad2200 since I use an Epson
2200. Is that the right choice or should I really have an "Epson2200" choice?

thanks,
Dave

RE: [QuadtoneRIP] Re: quadtone and epson 2200

2006-05-12 by Tom Moore

My email was not quite precise enough. You should be using the Quad2200
printing model.

The paper ink choices available are determined by the curves that you have
installed - either from the original distribution, those you have created
yourself or received from others.

One could take advantage of curves from vendors, if they were available.
However, only one vendor that I know of, Inkjet Mall has created Curves for
QTR. Those are for the NK7 inkset that they have designed.

Also, some QTR users have posted curve sets on the QuadtoneRIP Yahoo groups
website.

Tom Moore

> -----Original Message-----
> From: QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com [mailto:QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com] On
> Behalf Of Dave
> Sent: Friday, May 12, 2006 5:55 PM
> To: QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [QuadtoneRIP] Re: quadtone and epson 2200
> 
> It's funny this question comes up just as I'm wondering the same
> thing.
> 
> Is there a way to "teach" QTR about different papers in that drop
> down or is it accomplished through the curves choices? If it's
> curves, do I have to create my own curves for all different papers
> or can QTR take advantage of the profiles that come from the paper
> vendors?
> 
> The version of QTR I'm using, 2.3.12, only shows printing models
> that start with the word "Quad". I've been assuming I should use
> Quad2200 since I use an Epson 2200. Is that the right choice or
> should I really have an "Epson2200" choice?
> 
> thanks,
> Dave
> 
...

Re: quadtone and epson 2200

2006-05-13 by Dave

Tom,

Thanks for keeping the education simple and straightforward. It sure 
does make it easier for me to understand. You've convinced me that 
I'm probably fine with the way I've been operating. :)

Thanks again,
Dave

--- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "Tom Moore" <r.t.moore@...> 
wrote:
>
> My email was not quite precise enough. You should be using the 
Quad2200
> printing model.
> 
> The paper ink choices available are determined by the curves that 
you have
> installed - either from the original distribution, those you have 
created
> yourself or received from others.
> 
> One could take advantage of curves from vendors, if they were 
available.
> However, only one vendor that I know of, Inkjet Mall has created 
Curves for
> QTR. Those are for the NK7 inkset that they have designed.
> 
> Also, some QTR users have posted curve sets on the QuadtoneRIP 
Yahoo groups
> website.
> 
> Tom Moore
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com 
[mailto:QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com] On
> > Behalf Of Dave
> > Sent: Friday, May 12, 2006 5:55 PM
> > To: QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [QuadtoneRIP] Re: quadtone and epson 2200
> > 
> > It's funny this question comes up just as I'm wondering the same
> > thing.
> > 
> > Is there a way to "teach" QTR about different papers in that drop
> > down or is it accomplished through the curves choices? If it's
> > curves, do I have to create my own curves for all different 
papers
> > or can QTR take advantage of the profiles that come from the 
paper
Show quoted textHide quoted text
> > vendors?
> > 
> > The version of QTR I'm using, 2.3.12, only shows printing models
> > that start with the word "Quad". I've been assuming I should use
> > Quad2200 since I use an Epson 2200. Is that the right choice or
> > should I really have an "Epson2200" choice?
> > 
> > thanks,
> > Dave
> > 
> ...
>

Re: quadtone and epson 2200

2006-05-13 by Dave

Stephen,

I guess I'm still confused about something here. When print color 
images from photoshop, I have the ability to add profiles for all 
sorts of papers that supposedly adjust the ink usage based on the 
paper's ability to absorb the ink. Shouldn't we have the same 
information (probably in a different format) for those papers for 
use in QTR. Or is that what the curves are for?

By the way, I've been pretty satisfied with what comes with QTR. 
This is not a cry for more variables to deal with!

Thanks,
Dave


--- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "Stephen Billard" <stephen@...> 
wrote:
>
> The list of papers is in the PPD file for the printer. Typically, 
these are the
> same as the list you would get from the printer driver. You could 
delete items
> from the list. (Look for "MediaType" in the file.) However, I 
don't think it
> would do any good to add any.  
> 
> 
> -Stephen
>  www.sbillard.org/Stephen
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com 
[mailto:QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Dave
> Sent: Friday, May 12, 2006 2:55 PM
> To: QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [QuadtoneRIP] Re: quadtone and epson 2200
> 
> It's funny this question comes up just as I'm wondering the same 
thing.
> 
> Is there a way to "teach" QTR about different papers in that drop 
down or is it
> accomplished through the curves choices? If it's curves, do I have 
to create my
> own curves for all different papers or can QTR take advantage of 
the profiles
> that come from the paper vendors?
> 
> The version of QTR I'm using, 2.3.12, only shows printing models 
that start with
> the word "Quad". I've been assuming I should use Quad2200 since I 
use an Epson
> 2200. Is that the right choice or should I really have 
an "Epson2200" choice?
> 
> thanks,
> Dave
> 
> --- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "Tom Moore" <r.t.moore@>
> wrote:
> >
> > You don't state which inkset. Assuming you're using Epson UC ink,
> you should
> > be using the Epson2200 Printing Model. That would give you a
> variety of
> > papers using the PK ink, designed for gloss type papers. You 
could
> try the
> > curves for Epson premium Semigloss or the MC Ceramic Lustre as
> starters.
> > 
> > These will all result in at least some degree of bronzing. You 
can
> reduce
> > the bronzing effect after printing by using a spray such as
> Premier Art
> > Print Shield.
> > 
> > Tom Moore
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com] On
> > > Behalf Of theimer24
> > > Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 5:21 PM
> > > To: QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: [QuadtoneRIP] quadtone and epson 2200
> > > 
> > > I am using quadtone for the first time and I can't seem to find
> my
> > > paper in the drop down list. I use Red River Ultra Pro Satin
> which
> > ...
> >
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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RE: [QuadtoneRIP] Re: quadtone and epson 2200

2006-05-13 by Stephen Billard

That is what the curves are for. They are analogous to the ICC profiles you can
select in Photoshop. You can also create your own curves if you are adventurous.
See the user guide (Help/User Guide). 


-Stephen
 www.sbillard.org/Stephen
Show quoted textHide quoted text
-----Original Message-----
From: QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com [mailto:QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Dave
Sent: Saturday, May 13, 2006 5:07 AM
To: QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [QuadtoneRIP] Re: quadtone and epson 2200

Stephen,

I guess I'm still confused about something here. When print color images from
photoshop, I have the ability to add profiles for all sorts of papers that
supposedly adjust the ink usage based on the paper's ability to absorb the ink.
Shouldn't we have the same information (probably in a different format) for
those papers for use in QTR. Or is that what the curves are for?

By the way, I've been pretty satisfied with what comes with QTR. 
This is not a cry for more variables to deal with!

Thanks,
Dave


--- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "Stephen Billard" <stephen@...>
wrote:
>
> The list of papers is in the PPD file for the printer. Typically,
these are the
> same as the list you would get from the printer driver. You could
delete items
> from the list. (Look for "MediaType" in the file.) However, I
don't think it
> would do any good to add any.  
> 
> 
> -Stephen
>  www.sbillard.org/Stephen
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Dave
> Sent: Friday, May 12, 2006 2:55 PM
> To: QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [QuadtoneRIP] Re: quadtone and epson 2200
> 
> It's funny this question comes up just as I'm wondering the same
thing.
> 
> Is there a way to "teach" QTR about different papers in that drop
down or is it
> accomplished through the curves choices? If it's curves, do I have
to create my
> own curves for all different papers or can QTR take advantage of
the profiles
> that come from the paper vendors?
> 
> The version of QTR I'm using, 2.3.12, only shows printing models
that start with
> the word "Quad". I've been assuming I should use Quad2200 since I
use an Epson
> 2200. Is that the right choice or should I really have
an "Epson2200" choice?
> 
> thanks,
> Dave
> 
> --- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "Tom Moore" <r.t.moore@>
> wrote:
> >
> > You don't state which inkset. Assuming you're using Epson UC ink,
> you should
> > be using the Epson2200 Printing Model. That would give you a
> variety of
> > papers using the PK ink, designed for gloss type papers. You
could
> try the
> > curves for Epson premium Semigloss or the MC Ceramic Lustre as
> starters.
> > 
> > These will all result in at least some degree of bronzing. You
can
> reduce
> > the bronzing effect after printing by using a spray such as
> Premier Art
> > Print Shield.
> > 
> > Tom Moore
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com] On
> > > Behalf Of theimer24
> > > Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 5:21 PM
> > > To: QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: [QuadtoneRIP] quadtone and epson 2200
> > > 
> > > I am using quadtone for the first time and I can't seem to find
> my
> > > paper in the drop down list. I use Red River Ultra Pro Satin
> which
> > ...
> >
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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