QTR-Quadtone RIP

After installing QTR for my Epson 2200, the B&W quality took a quantum leap forward - no 
surprise to you on this forum who've used Quad Tone Rip.

After I recently acquired an Epson 4000, I was struggling with B&W on Kodak luster surfaces, 
even with the Kodak B&W Luster profile. They had a slight magenta cast. Prints on Epson 
Enhanced Matte were perfect so today I ran a test using the profiles for EM but printing on 
Kodak luster. It worked great, although I'm sure there are trade-offs, some of which I'll hear 
about in this thread, I'd guess.

Anyway, this afternoon I checked again in the QTR download and learned that there's a 
profile for the 4000 included, which is fantastic.

It seems that QTR requires a USB connection and won't run over Firewire under any 
circumstances.  Is this correct?  Has anyone found a work around or update for this allowing 
Firewire? I'm trying to avoid redoing the work space at the studio, just because of the PITA it 
is. Yes, they're simple plugs, but reaching them is a real pain, furniture must be rearranged 
to go to USB and the computer's ports are all full anyway.

Thanks any info.
Jeff Behm

--- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "jrbehm" <jrbehm@...> wrote:
..... 
> It seems that QTR requires a USB connection and won't run over
Firewire under any 
> circumstances.  Is this correct?  Has anyone found a work around or
update for this allowing 
> Firewire? I'm trying to avoid redoing the work space at the studio,
just because of the PITA it 
> is. Yes, they're simple plugs, but reaching them is a real pain,
furniture must be rearranged 
> to go to USB and the computer's ports are all full anyway.

How about a USB hub?

Steve

> How about a USB hub?
> 
> Steve


Obviously an option, but not one I've found terribly reliable in the past with printers - seems 
to be a source of confusion on occasion.  If others have solutions to that issue, I'm open to 
suggestions.
Jeff Behm

Hi Jeff,

The firewire restriction is a Mac OS X issue.  Epson uses a proprietary 
protocol for the
firewire port.  So the generic OS X firewire driver that is available 
for QTR usage doesn't
work with Epsons.   Performance-wise I don't think there's any downside 
for using USB
but of course you do have to re-plug things.  I've used powered hubs 
without trouble.

I happen to have my 4000 in another room and connect via the USB port 
on my Airport.
You could do this wirelessly or with an ethernet cable.  (wireless may 
be somewhat slower).

Coincidentally , on Windows we're able to tap into the lower part of 
the Epson driver
so firewire is supported on windows.

Roy

On Friday, May 18, 2007, at 11:12  AM, jrbehm wrote:

> After installing QTR for my Epson 2200, the B&W quality took a quantum 
> leap forward - no
> surprise to you on this forum who've used Quad Tone Rip.
>
> After I recently acquired an Epson 4000, I was struggling with B&W on 
> Kodak luster surfaces,
> even with the Kodak B&W Luster profile. They had a slight magenta 
> cast. Prints on Epson
> Enhanced Matte were perfect so today I ran a test using the profiles 
> for EM but printing on
> Kodak luster. It worked great, although I'm sure there are trade-offs, 
> some of which I'll hear
> about in this thread, I'd guess.
>
> Anyway, this afternoon I checked again in the QTR download and learned 
> that there's a
> profile for the 4000 included, which is fantastic.
>
> It seems that QTR requires a USB connection and won't run over 
> Firewire under any
> circumstances.  Is this correct?  Has anyone found a work around or 
> update for this allowing
> Firewire? I'm trying to avoid redoing the work space at the studio, 
> just because of the PITA it
> is. Yes, they're simple plugs, but reaching them is a real pain, 
> furniture must be rearranged
> to go to USB and the computer's ports are all full anyway.
>
> Thanks any info.
> Jeff Behm
>

-
Roy Harrington
roy@...
Black & White Photo Gallery
http://www.harrington.com

Sorry to jump in here late but in my experience with a 4000 and 4800 (both
Pro models) w/Ethernet cards, I found I got the fastest spooling and
printing using Ethernet directly from my Mac G5 AND I was also able to print
from my PC through a wireless Ethernet router I used for internet service
from my PC (a laptop with a wireless card in another room). 

 

I was not able to update the firmware until I dragged the printer close
enough to connect with a USB cable.

 

Alan

 

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From: QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com [mailto:QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of jrbehm
Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2007 8:58 AM
To: QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [QuadtoneRIP] Re: Hoping what I think I know

 



> How about a USB hub?
> 
> Steve

Obviously an option, but not one I've found terribly reliable in the past
with printers - seems 
to be a source of confusion on occasion. If others have solutions to that
issue, I'm open to 
suggestions.
Jeff Behm

 



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At least for the Windows version, Firewire will work. 
 
- Stephen
www.sbillard.org <http://www.sbillard.org/> 
 

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From: QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com [mailto:QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of skefford_1
Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2007 4:38 AM
To: QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [QuadtoneRIP] Re: Hoping what I think I know



--- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com <mailto:QuadtoneRIP%40yahoogroups.com> ,
"jrbehm" <jrbehm@...> wrote:
..... 
> It seems that QTR requires a USB connection and won't run over
Firewire under any 
> circumstances. Is this correct? Has anyone found a work around or
update for this allowing 
> Firewire? I'm trying to avoid redoing the work space at the studio,
just because of the PITA it 
> is. Yes, they're simple plugs, but reaching them is a real pain,
furniture must be rearranged 
> to go to USB and the computer's ports are all full anyway.

How about a USB hub?

Steve

Roy,

Thanks for that information.  I just looked at my original post and realized I'd omitted the 
info on what system I use - Mac OS 10.4.9 on G4s and G5s.

The Epson 4000 I have was acquired from the son of a woman who died, and was only on 
it's first ink cartridges when I got it last month.  Great deal, although the son knows 
nothing about it, so how do I check to see if it has an Ethernet card?  Is there a physical 
inspection I can make?

Also, where can I learn how to apply the wireless aspects mentioned?  I have WiFi at the 
studio, although it's a Buffalo G540 (I think) provided by my cable company, not the Apple 
Airport.  Among the many things I regularly do and use in computers, my area of least 
knowledge is Ethernet/wireless and connectivity, just so you know.

Also, since I network it on WiFi, I have a spare Ethernet port on my G4 (which I use as the 
print sending unit in my workflow).  Would a crossover cable to the 4000 work? 

Thanks, and I look forward to your input.

Jeff Behm


--- In QuadtoneRIP@...m, Roy Harrington <roy@...> wrote:

>
> Hi Jeff,
> 
> The firewire restriction is a Mac OS X issue.  Epson uses a proprietary 
> protocol for the
> firewire port.  So the generic OS X firewire driver that is available 
> for QTR usage doesn't
> work with Epsons.   Performance-wise I don't think there's any downside 
> for using USB
> but of course you do have to re-plug things.  I've used powered hubs 
> without trouble.
> 
> I happen to have my 4000 in another room and connect via the USB port 
> on my Airport.
> You could do this wirelessly or with an ethernet cable.  (wireless may 
> be somewhat slower).
> 
> Coincidentally , on Windows we're able to tap into the lower part of 
> the Epson driver
> so firewire is supported on windows.
> 
> Roy
>

Jeff, I'm not Roy:-) but I've experience with this printer and Ethernet and
I used my 4000 and now a 4800 on my G5 and wirelessly from my PC laptop.

 

The Ethernet card is very obvious when looking at the back of the printer,
looking at the rear it's left of center. It's a plastic plate about 2 inches
high and 4 inches wide with 2 screws holding it in place. In the center of
that plastic plate there is ONE OVER SIZED "female" plug in jack that looks
very much like a telephone jack, just lots bigger with 8 connector wires. To
the left of that plug is a small button. Holding in that button while
turning the printer on will print out a status sheet with the printers IP
address, something you'll need for wireless printing later. If you don't
have Ethernet there will be a blank plastic plate in the same place.

 

My office network has a SBC high speed modem attached to my phone line. 

From there I wire the modem to a Fast Ethernet Switch (not a HUB) because
the Switch is faster with less "packet collisions". 

Next from that Switch I "hard wire" ;

My G5, 

An HP Laserjet 1022n (networkable) printer, 

One extra hard wire for testing or other computer connections, 

And a Linksys Wireless 4 port router,

 

From that Linksys router I run a "hardwire" to the Ethernet port on the
Epson printer.

From my laptop I can use email, the web and because I know the IP addresses
for the Epson & HP I can print to the printers using "Standard TCP/IP port
connections" to either printer.

 

If you decide to go "wireless" connect the router to your computer with a
hard wire first and using a Web Browser call it's IP address in the "Address
Line" of your browser. Most have a standard number line "192.168.1.1" but
the correct number should be in the documentation with the router. Once you
make a connection you really must setup a security system, either "WEP" or
"WPA" (one of the better ones) with a password and a broadcast ID (some name
you will recognize from your wireless computer).

 

If you need more help email me off list at alan_kearney@...

 

BTW, on the PC side Win XP Pro is easier to network than XP Home, or so I've
been told.

 

And you don't need a crossover cable between the wifi or G4 to printer,
that's taken care of by the Ethernet card in the printer, which BTW, you can
buy and add to any 4000.

 

Good luck, Alan 

 

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From: QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com [mailto:QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of jrbehm
Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2007 7:22 AM
To: QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [QuadtoneRIP] Re: Hoping what I think I know

 

Roy,

Thanks for that information. I just looked at my original post and realized
I'd omitted the 
info on what system I use - Mac OS 10.4.9 on G4s and G5s.

The Epson 4000 I have was acquired from the son of a woman who died, and was
only on 
it's first ink cartridges when I got it last month. Great deal, although the
son knows 
nothing about it, so how do I check to see if it has an Ethernet card? Is
there a physical 
inspection I can make?

Also, where can I learn how to apply the wireless aspects mentioned? I have
WiFi at the 
studio, although it's a Buffalo G540 (I think) provided by my cable company,
not the Apple 
Airport. Among the many things I regularly do and use in computers, my area
of least 
knowledge is Ethernet/wireless and connectivity, just so you know.

Also, since I network it on WiFi, I have a spare Ethernet port on my G4
(which I use as the 
print sending unit in my workflow). Would a crossover cable to the 4000
work? 

Thanks, and I look forward to your input.

Jeff Behm





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