QTR-Quadtone RIP

Hello,

I own a Xrite Pulse Elite spectrophotometer and I am interested in 
using it to create curves for my Epson Pro 4000 with QTR. I see that 
there is a utility that has been generously created and offered by a 
memeber here to allow this to be done. I have downloaded the file and 
unpacked it. I do not have my Pulse attached to the computer that I 
downloaded it to or the software installed. I have clicked on the 
application but it does not open. Do I need to have my Pulse attached 
to the computer to open the Pulse Reader utility? Thanks in advance 
for any assistance.

This utility works only connected with computer.

Please let me know if it will work for you -- others reported some 
problems that I unfortunately cannot reproduce on any of my machines. 
There is a small doc in the archive with that tool that explains a 
little bit, how it works. You should start it from the console window 
to see error messages -- when you run it from Windows Explorer and get 
an error, OS will close the window before you could read, what was the 
problem. I probably should modify it to keep it opened...

--Sergei

--- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "munn_photo" <munn_photo@...> wrote:

>
> Hello,
> 
> I own a Xrite Pulse Elite spectrophotometer and I am interested in 
> using it to create curves for my Epson Pro 4000 with QTR. I see that 
> there is a utility that has been generously created and offered by a 
> memeber here to allow this to be done. I have downloaded the file and 
> unpacked it. I do not have my Pulse attached to the computer that I 
> downloaded it to or the software installed. I have clicked on the 
> application but it does not open. Do I need to have my Pulse attached 
> to the computer to open the Pulse Reader utility? Thanks in advance 
> for any assistance.
>

Oh, I forgot to mention that you also should have Pulse drivers 
installed. To ensure this you could install any of X-Rite tools for 
Pulse, or you could install just the driver.

--Sergei

--- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "Sergei Antonov" 
<antonovsergei@...> wrote:
>
> This utility works only connected with computer.
> 
> Please let me know if it will work for you -- others reported some 
> problems that I unfortunately cannot reproduce on any of my 
machines. 
> There is a small doc in the archive with that tool that explains a 
> little bit, how it works. You should start it from the console 
window 
> to see error messages -- when you run it from Windows Explorer and 
get 
> an error, OS will close the window before you could read, what was 
the 
> problem. I probably should modify it to keep it opened...
> 
> --Sergei
> 
> --- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "munn_photo" <munn_photo@> 
wrote:
> >
> > Hello,
> > 
> > I own a Xrite Pulse Elite spectrophotometer and I am interested 
in 
> > using it to create curves for my Epson Pro 4000 with QTR. I see 
that 
> > there is a utility that has been generously created and offered 
by a 
> > memeber here to allow this to be done. I have downloaded the file 
and 
> > unpacked it. I do not have my Pulse attached to the computer that 
I 
> > downloaded it to or the software installed. I have clicked on the 
> > application but it does not open. Do I need to have my Pulse 
attached 
> > to the computer to open the Pulse Reader utility? Thanks in 
advance 

> > for any assistance.
> >
>

Thanks for the reply. I hooked up my pulse and the utility opened 
for me but I was unable to use the commands that you indicated in 
the read me file to switch to strip mode instead of spot reading. 
You indicate that there is a firmware upgrade on the Xrite site 
which allows you to swith to strip mode but I was unable to locate 
this on the site. There is no such download for the DPT20. 

I did however download the ColorPort utility which allowed me to 
generate the TID and 21 gray step wedge to print out and then scan 
with my pulse. I am still just trying to understand the process of 
callibration and creating a custom curve to use with QTR. I still 
have a bit of a learning curve to go through to understand the 
complete process. I am not totally clear on all the specific steps. 
Hopefully after reading several post and the different documentation 
and guides I'm hoping it will all make more sense to me.

Thanks again for all your help.
--- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "Sergei Antonov" 
<antonovsergei@...> wrote:
>
> Oh, I forgot to mention that you also should have Pulse drivers 
> installed. To ensure this you could install any of X-Rite tools 
for 
> Pulse, or you could install just the driver.
> 
> --Sergei
> 
> --- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "Sergei Antonov" 
> <antonovsergei@> wrote:
> >
> > This utility works only connected with computer.
> > 
> > Please let me know if it will work for you -- others reported 
some 
> > problems that I unfortunately cannot reproduce on any of my 
> machines. 
> > There is a small doc in the archive with that tool that explains 
a 
> > little bit, how it works. You should start it from the console 
> window 
> > to see error messages -- when you run it from Windows Explorer 
and 
> get 
> > an error, OS will close the window before you could read, what 
was 
> the 
> > problem. I probably should modify it to keep it opened...
> > 
> > --Sergei
> > 
> > --- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "munn_photo" <munn_photo@> 
> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hello,
> > > 
> > > I own a Xrite Pulse Elite spectrophotometer and I am 
interested 
> in 
> > > using it to create curves for my Epson Pro 4000 with QTR. I 
see 
> that 
> > > there is a utility that has been generously created and 
offered 
> by a 
> > > memeber here to allow this to be done. I have downloaded the 
file 
> and 
> > > unpacked it. I do not have my Pulse attached to the computer 
that 
> I 
> > > downloaded it to or the software installed. I have clicked on 
the 

> > > application but it does not open. Do I need to have my Pulse 
> attached 
> > > to the computer to open the Pulse Reader utility? Thanks in 
> advance 
> > > for any assistance.
> > >
> >
>

--- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "munn_photo" <munn_photo@...> wrote:

> I did however download the ColorPort utility which allowed me to 
> generate the TID and 21 gray step wedge to print out and then scan 
> with my pulse. 

Hello, Munn,

I am one of those for which operation of Sergei's utility does no work.

I have also had no success with ColorPort 1.5.4 .  I don't pretend to
be a computer savvy person but I am doubting my capabilities!  Since
you achieved results with ColorPort, I should appreciate it if you
could go throguh the steps for me so that I can read the strips
printed by QTR.

My desktop is a PC with WinXP pro service packs 1 and 2.

Thanks,

Colin Conway

Before photography, I looked - now, I see.

www.colinconwayphotography.com

It appears that the Pulse reader utility only works on PC's; has anyone tried it on a Mac (Intel based)?  Will it work?

Thanks.

Mike


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

PulseReader is the Windows program. It will not work on Mac.

--Sergei

--- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, Michael Tiktinsky 
<mt_photographer@...> wrote:
>
> It appears that the Pulse reader utility only works on PC's; has 
anyone tried it on a Mac (Intel based)?  Will it work?

> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Mike
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Just use the ColorPort utility to make a 21 step or 21x4 step neutral RGB target, then turn off 
TID recognition when measuring the printed target.  Export a tab delimited text file and read 
with the QTR scripts for linearization or icc creation.  See:
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/QuadtoneRIP/message/4774

--- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, Michael Tiktinsky <mt_photographer@...> wrote:
>
> It appears that the Pulse reader utility only works on PC's; has anyone tried it on a Mac 
(Intel based)?  Will it work?

> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Mike
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

--- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "Carl Schofield" <list@...> wrote:
>
> Just use the ColorPort utility to make a 21 step or 21x4 step
neutral RGB target, then turn off 
> TID recognition when measuring the printed target.  Export a tab
delimited text file and read 
> with the QTR scripts for linearization or icc creation.  See:
> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/QuadtoneRIP/message/4774
> 
Carl, 

Your post was in response to Michael Tiktinsky's but appeared to
address my problem.  If I recall correctly, you use a Mac while I am
using a PC with Win XP Pro Service packs 1 and 2.  I don't know if
this is significant.


I have printed out a grayscale TIF using QTR and the process described
by W Schwolgin in
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/QuadtoneRIP/files/Tools/ .  He has
a text document file to insert patches in Colorport v1.5.4's create
target.

In the Measure Target area I have ticked the "ignore TID" box. 
However, when I scan the scanned QTR TIF file I get the error message
"An error occurred while reading a strip of patches.  Try reading the
strip again (error 22).

I have tried also using the TIF file overlain over the colour TID
("ignore TID" unticked), but get the error message "Mismatched data
Clear the Pulse and remeasure".

I should appreciate any help you, or anyone else using WinXp can give.

Colin


Before photography, I looked - now, I see

www.colinconwayphotography.com

Colin,

I'm not sure what the problem is but it should work.  Have you tried  
reading the strip again after the error message at different scanning  
speeds?  I occasionally get this error if scanning too quickly.

Carl

On Aug 6, 2007, at 1:04 PM, colingruk wrote:

> --- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "Carl Schofield" <list@...> wrote:
>>
>> Just use the ColorPort utility to make a 21 step or 21x4 step
> neutral RGB target, then turn off
>> TID recognition when measuring the printed target.  Export a tab
> delimited text file and read
>> with the QTR scripts for linearization or icc creation.  See:
>> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/QuadtoneRIP/message/4774
>>
> Carl,
>
> Your post was in response to Michael Tiktinsky's but appeared to
> address my problem.  If I recall correctly, you use a Mac while I am
> using a PC with Win XP Pro Service packs 1 and 2.  I don't know if
> this is significant.
>
>
> I have printed out a grayscale TIF using QTR and the process described
> by W Schwolgin in
> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/QuadtoneRIP/files/Tools/ .  He has
> a text document file to insert patches in Colorport v1.5.4's create
> target.
>
> In the Measure Target area I have ticked the "ignore TID" box.
> However, when I scan the scanned QTR TIF file I get the error message
> "An error occurred while reading a strip of patches.  Try reading the
> strip again (error 22).
>
> I have tried also using the TIF file overlain over the colour TID
> ("ignore TID" unticked), but get the error message "Mismatched data
> Clear the Pulse and remeasure".
>
> I should appreciate any help you, or anyone else using WinXp can give.
>
> Colin
>
>
> Before photography, I looked - now, I see
>

--- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, Carl Schofield <list@...> wrote:
>
> Colin,
> 
> I'm not sure what the problem is but it should work.  Have you tried  
> reading the strip again after the error message at different scanning  
> speeds?  I occasionally get this error if scanning too quickly.
> 
> Carl
> 
Yes, Carl, many times.

I get normal colour readings in Pulse Elite, so I doubt it is the machine.

Thanks for your help.

Colin

--- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "Sergei Antonov"
<antonovsergei@...> wrote:
>
> This utility works only connected with computer.
> 
> Please let me know if it will work for you -- others reported some 
> problems that I unfortunately cannot reproduce on any of my machines. 
>.....
> --Sergei
> 

I was able to install and run Sergei's utility on my notebook computer
(Win XPhome), although the pulsetreader.exe -? switch wouldn't work,
and I have been using this despite the inconvenience of swapping the
data outputs from the notebook to my imaging desktop PC running XP Pro
SP1&2.

Last night, pondering the issue yet again, I decided to try removing
the Pulse Color Elite software(I uninstalled ColorPort awhile back).

Yes, the utility now works, so maybe there is a conflict somewhere
here.  Of course I have traded the inconvenience of swapping data from
notebook to desktop, to uninstalling the X-rite Pulse software and
back when I want to use the device for its intended purpose.

I should appreciate it if, Sergei, you would see if you can now
replicate the problem and find a solution.

Cheers,

Colin

Before photography, I looked - now, I see.

www.colinconwayphotography.com