From: QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com [mailto:QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Tyler Boley
Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 11:22 AM
To: QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [QuadtoneRIP] Re: HPR Pearl andBaryta
George, as long as you are still deciding, you might want to take a lok at
the Photo Rag Baryta, I like it much more than the other two. The surface
does not have the odd naugahyde texture of the fine are baryta, it's finer
like the pearl, but it takes ink better than the pearl and has less
bronzing.
The rag content handles very nice too, much softer. It almost seems the
other two were less successful attempts on the way to the PhotoRag Baryta.
Regarding hue, it's nearly neutral.
Tyler
http://www.custom-digital.com/
--- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com <mailto:QuadtoneRIP%40yahoogroups.com> ,
"George Pappas" <george@...> wrote:
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> Hi Alfredo,
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> I have not used Photo Rag Baryta. I did mean Fine Art Baryta and Photo Rag
> Pearl. Hahnemuhle makes terrific papers but one has to wonder if they need
> all of the different product names and offerings in their inventory. I am
> sure number of different names and offerings give their product planning
and
> production people nightmares!
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>
>
> In my opinion, the Photo Rag Pearl and Fine Art Baryta are still neutral
to
> slighty cool papers. Even though I mentioned that Photo Rag Pearl is
> slightly warmer, it is still on the cool side. Please remember that this
> very dependent on what inks you are using and how your ink profile works.
I
> don't have direct experience with the 2200 and its UC so can't be of
> assistance. Even if your preconfigured profile is slightly off, you can
> modify your files to print well and apply that modification as a preset
> curve in photoshop or lightroom.
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> Best of luck with your show..
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> George
>
>
>
> From: QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com <mailto:QuadtoneRIP%40yahoogroups.com>
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On
> Behalf Of acappariello
> Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 6:50 PM
> To: QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com <mailto:QuadtoneRIP%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: [QuadtoneRIP] Re: HPR Pearl andBaryta
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> Hello George,
> thanks a lot for your answer.
> Just a clarification, when you say "Hahnemuhle Photo Rag Pearl and Fine
Art
> Baryta are very similar papers", I guess you do not refer to the Photo Rag
> Baryta. What about this paper? I guess it is very close to the Fine Art
> Baryta, right? What are the differences, if any?
> Also, generally I prefer very slightly cool tones (really very slight); in
> this case is it a must to go on the Baryta or the Pearl can still be an
> option?
> I am thinking to go on the Pearl because I found on the web that the
coating
> of HFAP and the HPRP is the same and the curves of the HFA are available
in
> this group (I am quite happy with them).
> Am I wrong?
> Opsss... I forgot to mention I use Epson 2100 (2200) and UC inks.
> Thanks again!
>
> Alfredo
>
> --- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com <mailto:QuadtoneRIP%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:QuadtoneRIP%40yahoogroups.com> ,
> "George Pappas" <george@> wrote:
> >
> > Hello Alfredo,
> >
> >
> >
> > Hahnemuhle Photo Rag Pearl and Fine Art Baryta are very similar papers.
> The
> > key differences are that Photo Rag Pearl has a slightly less "glossy"
> > surface and a slightly warmer image color with the B&W inks I use. It
also
> > has a very nice paper feel and substance that I like. Fine Art Baryta is
> > has a slightly brighter look in its image base and is stiffer. They are
> > both beautiful papers.
> >
> >
> >
> > If you had to choose one without trying either, I would go with
Hahnemuhle
> > Photo Rag Pearl only because it has a lower gloss surface which should
> come
> > in handy if you cannot control the exhibition lighting. You should
really
> > order a 5 sheet test package of each and make some prints - the
> differences
> > are very subtle and could be meaningful with your images.
> >
> >
> >
> > The QTR profiles will be slightly different - I linearized both papers
> with
> > a different RIP and found their ink responses to not be the same. I
can't
> > help you with QTR profiles for these papers as I don't use QTR with
them.
> >
> >
> >
> > Best Regards,
> >
> > George
> >
> >
> >
> > From: QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com <mailto:QuadtoneRIP%40yahoogroups.com>
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> On
> > Behalf Of acappariello
> > Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 2:44 PM
> > To: QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com <mailto:QuadtoneRIP%40yahoogroups.com>
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> > Subject: [QuadtoneRIP] HPR Pearl andBaryta
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi all,
> > I need to start printing some pictures for an exhibition.
> > I am thinking to use the Hahnemuhle Photo Rag, the Pearl or Baryta
because
> I
> > prefer the paper that is closest to the the wet darkroom baryta glossy.
> > Please, can someone explain me the differences expecially in terms or
> > undesidered reflections (I can not control the light for the
exhibition).
> Or
> > should I just give up and print on a matte paper (Hahnemuhle Photo Rag)
in
> > any case?
> > Also my choice will depend on the availability of the curves (I have not
> any
> > instrument to linearize the curve), so I would like to ask if the
quadtone
> > curves for the Hahnemuhle FineArt Pearl are good, as starting point, for
> > printing on the HPR Pearl? And the EEM for the HPR? Or anyone has the
> curves
> > for the HPR Baryta?
> > Thanks a lot!
> >
> > Alfredo
> >
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