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2011-06-09 by KentB
Hi Roy I am testing the OSX Lion Developer Release...and Quadtone rip is currently broken on Lion. Are you working on this? Epson has just released its update to its standard driver...NetConfig does not work...but standard Epson drivers work via Bonjour on Lion. Thanks for a great product...must drive you nuts when Apple and Microsoft do this stuff.... Phil Brouwer
2011-06-09 by Mike Finley
On 09/06/2011 16:05, KentB wrote: >... > Thanks for a great product...must drive you nuts when Apple and > Microsoft do this stuff.... > ... Actually, QTR + qtrgui so far have generally just worked on Windows systems. I watch the posts on problems with each new release of MacOS or Mac version of Photoshop amazed at the tangles they seem to get into - its Apple, Adobe and Epson that cause the problems as far as I can see, not Microsoft! Of course in the early days we had to sidestep Microsoft and dual boot into Linux. -- mike finley photography http://www.mikefinley.co.uk http://words.mikefinley.co.uk http://www.roguegenegallery.com/Mike_Finley-gallery.html
2011-06-09 by Roy Harrington
Hi Phil, I have not actually tried Lion yet but I have read most of the info available. The main thing that I know of is that the new OS is Intel chip only i.e. no support for old PPC programs. The bulk of QTR is already intel 32/64 bit but there are few of the the programs like QTR-Create-ICC that need to be updated. I have fixes for these. The place where this is particularly a problem is the MeasureTool program that is used for reading the Eye-One Spectro. This will not be supported as an Intel program by X-rite as far as I know. Keep a bootable Snow Leopard around. Although there will undoubtably be things to update for Lion, I don't imagine there will be any unsurmountable issues for QTR on Lion. If you know of particular issues let me know. Thanks, Roy On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 8:05 AM, KentB <philip@...> wrote: > Hi Roy > > I am testing the OSX Lion Developer Release...and Quadtone rip is currently broken on Lion. Are you working on this? > > Epson has just released its update to its standard driver...NetConfig does not work...but standard Epson drivers work via Bonjour on Lion. > > Thanks for a great product...must drive you nuts when Apple and Microsoft do this stuff.... > > Phil Brouwer > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > -- Roy Harrington roy@harrington.com www.harrington.com
2011-06-09 by John Labovitz
I looked into this recently, when I first learned Lion wasn't going to support PPC-only binaries. From what I can tell, MeasureTool (and possibly other parts of ProfileMaker) are being replaced by ColorPort, which is Intel-native. (See: http://www.xrite.com/product_overview.aspx?ID=719) However, ColorPort doesn't seem quite as general as MeasureTool, and it didn't easily recognize my target (generated by my own tools). But it's also more configurable, so may just take some futzing. It may be fine with the targets supplied with QTR. The other idea is using Argyll's free command-line tools (see: http://www.argyllcms.com). It does support the EyeOne (at least), although it has its own ideas of target layout, and is not an easily toolkit to learn. So there will be other options, once Lion forces discontinuation of PPC-only tools. --John
On 9 Jun 2011, at 2:00 PM, Roy Harrington wrote: > Hi Phil, > > I have not actually tried Lion yet but I have read most of the info available. > > The main thing that I know of is that the new OS is Intel chip only > i.e. no support > for old PPC programs. The bulk of QTR is already intel 32/64 bit but there are > few of the the programs like QTR-Create-ICC that need to be updated. I have > fixes for these. The place where this is particularly a problem is > the MeasureTool > program that is used for reading the Eye-One Spectro. This will not > be supported > as an Intel program by X-rite as far as I know. Keep a bootable Snow > Leopard around. > > Although there will undoubtably be things to update for Lion, I don't imagine > there will be any unsurmountable issues for QTR on Lion. > If you know of particular issues let me know. > > Thanks, > Roy > > > > On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 8:05 AM, KentB <philip@accentonrugs.com> wrote: >> Hi Roy >> >> I am testing the OSX Lion Developer Release...and Quadtone rip is currently broken on Lion. Are you working on this? >> >> Epson has just released its update to its standard driver...NetConfig does not work...but standard Epson drivers work via Bonjour on Lion. >> >> Thanks for a great product...must drive you nuts when Apple and Microsoft do this stuff.... >> >> Phil Brouwer >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------ >> >> Yahoo! Groups Links >> >> >> >> > > > > -- > Roy Harrington > roy@... > www.harrington.com > > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > >
2011-06-10 by KentB
Thank you Roy For the kind reply. All I can say now is that I would avoid Lion for at least half a year...maybe more depending on your attitude toward big corporations. I reverted....I reverted back to 10.6.7...I am relieved and all is now ok. I am confident that Apple mucked up my system with one of the last updates to 10.6....but it is running clean once again now...after reverting back to a stable system. Check out the new Dark Star campus that Apple is planning on Building...and make your own conclusions. http://www.engadget.com/2011/06/08/steve-jobs-reveals-apples-new-spaceship-campus-calls-it-the-b/ Phil --- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, Roy Harrington <roy@...> wrote:
> > Hi Phil, > > I have not actually tried Lion yet but I have read most of the info available. > > The main thing that I know of is that the new OS is Intel chip only > i.e. no support > for old PPC programs. The bulk of QTR is already intel 32/64 bit but there are > few of the the programs like QTR-Create-ICC that need to be updated. I have > fixes for these. The place where this is particularly a problem is > the MeasureTool > program that is used for reading the Eye-One Spectro. This will not > be supported > as an Intel program by X-rite as far as I know. Keep a bootable Snow > Leopard around. > > Although there will undoubtably be things to update for Lion, I don't imagine > there will be any unsurmountable issues for QTR on Lion. > If you know of particular issues let me know. > > Thanks, > Roy > > > > On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 8:05 AM, KentB <philip@...> wrote: > > Hi Roy > > > > I am testing the OSX Lion Developer Release...and Quadtone rip is currently broken on Lion. Are you working on this? > > > > Epson has just released its update to its standard driver...NetConfig does not work...but standard Epson drivers work via Bonjour on Lion. > > > > Thanks for a great product...must drive you nuts when Apple and Microsoft do this stuff.... > > > > Phil Brouwer > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Roy Harrington > roy@... > www.harrington.com >
2011-06-10 by Tom Mallonee
This will definitely push the OT envelope and my intent is not to start a silly brand war, but rather introduce a little Friday contemplation and levity. So Roy and Tom Moore, please don't kick me off! I read this horrific Mac OS stuff with utter dismay. A few years ago I had to upgrade nine Macs for the AA Gallery Workshops. Not only did AA have to pay for the PS upgrades, they had to upgrade the OS (to 10.4 I believe) in order to install the PS upgrade. Not to mention my 12 hours of time. WTF?. The color management nightmare that has since ensued is lunacy. Apple effectively forces people to continually buy OS upgrades while leaving a mess in its wake. I firmly believe that many people buy Macs because Apple's are cool - and in many ways they are. Apple's product designs are unquestionably inspired and deserve the industry awards they receive. I use a Mac keyboard on my screaming-fast, power-grid melting, carbon spewing Dell 8-core Intel 3GHz Xeon, SSD, 32GB workstation. (I think it's responsible for creating shipping lanes through the Artic). Dell server/workstations are built like tanks (mine weighs 70 pounds), but why they continue to churn out ugly, clunky wannabe laptops is beyond me. It was true that Macs were more graphically oriented/friendly and clearly superior in those ways. But to the extent that might still be true, the gap has closed to a thin crack. Apple is now Big Brother, bigger than Microsoft and with a pinwheel-eyed cult following to boot. Unfortunately for Apple, most businesses have CFOs and IT geeks with dollar-signs in their eyes. Mac monitors are gorgeous, bright and flashy and make Avatar an orgasmic experience, but they are nightmares in terms of calibration and color accuracy, especially if you're working in B&W. Where did their commitment to the graphics industry go? To the masses at Best Buy. Dollars and pinwheels. When the silly stolen/lost iPhone 4 affair happened, Jon Stewart rightly put Jobs' feet to the fire (this from my memory): "Steve! I love you guys, but WTF? Have you become. The MAN? Commandant Gates is ridding the world of mosquitos and you're kicking down doors in Palo Alto! You should be kicking down the doors of AT&T who make your gorgeous iPhone useless as a phone!". The Macs, iPhone, iPad do often have a wonderful slick seamless quality. My friend's MacBook Pro is a lightweight, monolithic, sculptured thing of beauty, right down to the magnetically-released power jack. I've played with an iPad and I WANT one, but when I quit sweating and remember that it doesn't do Flash (because of Jobs' snitty war with Adobe) I can't find a reason that fits my personal needs. I wish I could. I have an iPod. Two actually. I would have bought an iPhone if I hadn't many years ago sworn to deny AT&T another penny. People love to hate Microsoft and Windows but the fact is that Windows 7 is a superb, stable, fast, flexible, and nearly glitch-free OS - Microsoft finally got it right. It seamlessly connects to enterprise systems. When tweaked a bit (which it shouldn't need to be) it searches the system as fast and completely as a Mac. Yes the lovely new taskbar is lifted from MacOS, which it should have been years ago. But it has unique Libraries, jump lists, eye candy, and window positioning features to die for. (In the interest of fairness and full disclosure, it's been a long road - Windows 98 was the most wretched, vulnerable, unstable, POS software ever unleashed on humanity). Oh right - my point: ANY version of the heavyweight programs I need to use: AutoCAD, Revit, Lightroom, Photoshop, Office, QTR, Studioprint and Xrite will run on ANY (NT kernelled, color managed) 32 or 64 bit version of Windows: XP, Vista (yuck), and Windows 7. Microsoft issues major OS service packs every year or so, but these are FREE, they actually FIX things and they IMPROVE compatibility. I upgraded to Windows 7 and it's comforting to know that I don't have to hold my breath waiting for the next expensive and time-consuming version of Snow-Squirrel to screw things up. OK. I finally said it. :-) And I fully acknowledge that some points are subject to debate. Anyway, whether it be with Nikon, Canon, iPhone, pinhole, Holga, Leica or Linhof: Let us go forth and make great photographs! Cheers, Tom Hi Phil, I have not actually tried Lion yet but I have read most of the info available. The main thing that I know of is that the new OS is Intel chip only i.e. no support for old PPC programs. The bulk of QTR is already intel 32/64 bit but there are few of the the programs like QTR-Create-ICC that need to be updated. I have fixes for these. The place where this is particularly a problem is the MeasureTool program that is used for reading the Eye-One Spectro. This will not be supported as an Intel program by X-rite as far as I know. Keep a bootable Snow Leopard around. Although there will undoubtably be things to update for Lion, I don't imagine there will be any unsurmountable issues for QTR on Lion. If you know of particular issues let me know. Thanks, Roy [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]