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Re: price increases

2003-10-12 by Chris Whitten

My impression was Rex was trying to discourage business. I guess this is the ultimate solution. IMHO, The Serge system could have been a much more vital force in popular music. Look at the rise of MOTM! CW

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Re: price increases

2003-10-12 by Peter Grenader

And to think...the Serge was originally developed to be an inexpensive option. OK, things change. Brittney Spears used to be this cute little adolescent singer and we knew that wouldn't last and it didn't, but some of these prices here are outrageous. My questions: I've heard he

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Re: price increases

2003-10-12 by Chris Whitten

You'd most likely have to pay over $1k for a Buchla Oscillator. Funny thing is, the older Serge stuff goes DOWN in value. CW

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Re: price increases

2003-10-12 by Les Mizzell

paradigmshiftbeats wrote: > What puzzles me the most... I'm having a difficult time following > the rationale for his pricing increases. They don't seem to follow > any set pattern, i.e. +25% across the board. In fact, some of the > variances seem to defy logic... why raise the p

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Re: price increases

2003-10-12 by john duval

--- Chris Whitten cw.chris@... > wrote: > > I'm sure these increases will add > > fuel to a lot of folks fire. > Or pour cold water on anyone's plans to add to > their system. > Some of the modules don't seem too bad. $300 for an > oscillator?, a few other > systems are as expens

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Re: price increases

2003-10-12 by paradigmshiftbeats

What puzzles me the most... I'm having a difficult time following the rationale for his pricing increases. They don't seem to follow any set pattern, i.e. +25% across the board. In fact, some of the variances seem to defy logic... why raise the price of a voltage- controlled DCSM

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Re: price increases

2003-10-11 by Chris Whitten

> I'm sure these increases will add > fuel to a lot of folks fire. Or pour cold water on anyone's plans to add to their system. Some of the modules don't seem too bad. $300 for an oscillator?, a few other systems are as expensive. But I don't really think the TKB Sequencer is wor

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price increases

2003-10-11 by darkstr717

just now took a look at the new prices and i must say i'm amazed. Rex said some time ago that he was going to do this. Wow...this is some steep shit. I'm not sure how he figures anyone can afford this stuff anymore. I've had a panel on order for almost a year and it's for sure th

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Re: [UAP] Panning Behaviour

2003-10-11 by metafoetus2002

Ups, PanDrop@3/9 looks like an email address, but it was just meant to be an abbreviation for the "Panning produces a level drop at 3 PM and 9 AM o'cloc= k position". Sorry, Jan-Hinnerk --- In SergeModular@yahoogroups.com , "metafoetus2002" hinnerk.helms@t...> wrote: > Chris, > >

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Re: [UAP] Panning Behaviour

2003-10-11 by metafoetus2002

Chris, thank you so much for verifying. I can feel peace of mind again :-) Regarding the explanation, however, I am unsure if this PanDrop@3/9 is caused by equal power panning. My Mackie mixer 1604 has equal power panning, and it does it without level drops. Reading EGRES/Wizardr

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Re: [UAP] Panning Behaviour

2003-10-11 by Chris Whitten

Interesting. I still haven't found a module by any company that performs panning with a minimum of fuss. Most modules I've tried audibly clicked between sweeps. CW

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Re: [UAP] Panning Behaviour

2003-10-11 by Peter Grenader

The drop you are referring to is the dreaded 3dB cut in the center caused by panning via crossfading. Personally I can't go into details about how the UAP overcomes it, as I don't know this circuit, but yeah, this is what the equal power panning function is all about. - Peter par

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Re: [UAP] Panning Behaviour

2003-10-11 by paradigmshiftbeats

Jan-Hinnerk, My UAP (also part of an Animal panel) behaves identically to yours. This, I believe, is a function of the Serge "equal-power" panning versus the linear panning we're generally accustomed to. Perhaps some of the more experienced members can shed more light on why the

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[UAP] Panning Behaviour

2003-10-10 by metafoetus2002

Hi, I was able to aquire an Animal, just some month old, from Joe Millar. Very smooth deal, good trader. After the first blast of excitement, I discovered the following. I feed a sine wave into the right input of the [UAP] and switch the [UAP] to Pan mode. Now, when I turn the Pa

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Re: serge sale update

2003-10-09 by john duval

These panels have now been sold and shipped: thanks guys : ) > TKB > > NTO/PCO/NCOM/PDIV/TWS/MIX2?XFAD/VCFX/UAP > > all others are still up for grabs. > > Kind regrds > John DuVal > > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved produc

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patch cable

2003-10-08 by Fernando

Hi. I'd like to know if you ever had a problem with crosstalk, EMI or RFI or any kind of interference or problem when using the non-shielded cables for patching the Serge. I'm talking about, say, 12 panels (three frames w/3 panels each) heavily patched. I imagine you normally use

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Re: FRSX Question

2003-10-06 by vtl5c3

They're not on the web... yet. I scanned in my copy and will post them in the next couple of days. The plan is to add them to Magnus Danielson's Buchla schematic page. Romeo --- In SergeModular@yahoogroups.com , "Scott E." wrote: > I would be interested to know where the 285 sche

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Re: FRSX Question

2003-10-04 by Scott E.

I would be interested to know where the 285 schems might be available.... Thanks, Scott vtl5c3 wrote: > Thanks to all who responded. It makes sense that a second > phase shift network would be used on the FRSX. > > Steve Ridley suggested I look at the schematics for Buchla's 285

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Re: FRSX Question

2003-10-04 by Peter Grenader

Best of luck with the Buchla shifter as it's one of Don's most aggressively wack schematic layouts, There's another list I belong to made up of EAM composers and one recently posted the question if anyone knew of anything ever published regarding the effects of pharmaceuticals on

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FS: Serge Panel *price reduced*(DSG DTG VCFQX VCFQX VCFS XFAD XFAD

2003-10-04 by Joe Pavone

Panel for sale, Excellent condition, Made in Oakland CA. price $2000 (OBO) Includes the following modules: DSG ( dual universal slope gen) DTG ( dual transient gen.) VCFQX ( variable Q filter) VCFQX ( variable Q filter) VCFS ( variable slope filter) X FAD ( voltage controlled cro

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Re: FRSX Question

2003-10-04 by John Loffink

As does the Wavemakers KB226 Ring Modulator: http://www.wavemakers-synth.com/226pg1.html. That's a very useful feature. John Loffink The Microtonal Synthesis Web Site http://www.microtonal-synthesis.com The Wavemakers Synthesizer Web Site http://www.wavemakers-synth.com > Also ha

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Re: FRSX Question

2003-10-04 by vtl5c3

Thanks to all who responded. It makes sense that a second phase shift network would be used on the FRSX. Steve Ridley suggested I look at the schematics for Buchla's 285 Frequency Shifter for further clarity. It has both a built in thru-zero vco and a second input for audio signa

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serge sale progress

2003-10-02 by darkstr717

I have recieved commitments on these panels wso far. TKB NTO/PCO/NCOM/PDIV/TWS/MIX2?XFAD/VCFX/UAP all others are still up for grabs. Kind regrds John DuVal

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Re: FRSX Question

2003-10-02 by sasami@hotkey.net.au

>Last night I was perusing my Serge catalog and noticed that >there were two versions of the Frequency Shifter. The second >version (FRSX) caught my attention. From my understanding - The second has no quadrature oscillator. Instead it has a second Dome filter. Ken ______________

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Re: FRSX Question

2003-10-02 by metafoetus2002

Hi, I'll try to have a shot at it, In a one-input frequency-shifter [FRS], the built-in signal is supplied by a built-in sine-wave oscillator which outputs two sine waves of identical frequencies, but one of this sine waves is 90 degrees out of phase compared to the other. Serge

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Re: FRSX Question

2003-10-02 by John Papiewski

Yo, If you think of the FS as a souped-up ring modulator you might get a clearer idea. Now, some ring modulators have one signal input and they use a built-in oscillator to modulate your incoming signal. That's like the first frequency shifter. Built-in oscillator. But some ring

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FRSX Question

2003-10-02 by vtl5c3

Last night I was perusing my Serge catalog and noticed that there were two versions of the Frequency Shifter. The second version (FRSX) caught my attention. Here's what it says about the FRSX: "The basic unit features a built-in oscillator .... Available at a higher cost and on s

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Technical question

2003-10-01 by cuari7

Can the Serge's DSG, DTG and ADSR's be retriggered by just feeding a regular gate into the trigger input (that is, while there is also a gate inside the GATE IN jack). In other words, could fast staccatto notes be played with, say, an MPU-101?

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Re: Serge discography?

2003-09-30 by Fernando

Because they are so expensive musicians can't afford them? f * --- In SergeModular@yahoogroups.com , "Steve Ridley" wrote: > It's a surprisingly short list or releases for a synth that has been > in some sort of production for 30 years. > > Surely there must be hundreds of Serges

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Re: Serge discography?

2003-09-30 by KimG

Antenne http://www.antenne.suite.dk i've got a single panel since 97 that i've used on these releases: ( not all serge, but at least one serge track on each song.. ) Amstrong - Sprinkler Antenne - #1 Antenne - #2 + diverse remixes, soundtracks, post-pro-backgrounds etc config: PR

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Re: Serge discography?

2003-09-30 by Peter Grenader

Fear not - I am certain that there are hundreds of releases utilizing Serge equipment - we just don't know about them as musicians and composers who do aren't required to report the event! If the list is short, it's because it's far from complete and it will be a gargantuan task

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Re: Serge discography?

2003-09-30 by Steve Ridley

It's a surprisingly short list or releases for a synth that has been in some sort of production for 30 years. Surely there must be hundreds of Serges out there - why are they making so little noise? Comments? Steve

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thanks to SMOG, CD related stuff

2003-09-30 by John Papiewski

I'm just amazed at all the interesting info & stuff coming out of the woodwork on the Serge recordings. A great thread, covering hippie era memories as well as GEN-Y shenanigans. Now all I need izza time to put it together. And - the surreal delirium of m/n/m/l is taking off. If

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Re: Serge discography?

2003-09-29 by Blake Wilson

John, A couple of others: The McLean Mix (Priscilla and Barton McLean) Ivan Tcherepnin Kevin Braheny kirk degiorgio, of course... and, from what i've heard, nikki sixx of motley crue (no joke!) b. -- M. Blake Wilson is OdysseySounds Email: mbw@... Web: http://members.cox.net/mbw/

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Re: Digest Number 514

2003-09-29 by FRED giannelli

well, I turned Richie Hawtin onto the Serge system. Also Kevin from Skinny Puppy/Download. Thighpaulsandra tells me he has quite a Serge system also. telepathic regards, Fred Giannelli Upcoming Live Electronic Demonstrations: ------------------------------------------------------

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Re: Serge discography?

2003-09-29 by Peter Grenader

kirkdegiorgio wrote: > the year is 1974... what > year did Serge install the custom built VCO's in TONTO? My guess it was around 1975 - 76.

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Re: Serge discography?

2003-09-29 by kirkdegiorgio

> > Quincy Jones (Body Heat LP?) > > > That was pre-Serge. Had to be. I just checked the album sleeve - no mention of TONTO despite the claims on a Margouleff & Cecil (the original owners of TONTO) website interview... just says "ARP Synthesizer programming by Margouleff & Cecil"

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Re: John Duval has panels for sale

2003-09-29 by john duval

--- pstap pstap@... > wrote: > Wipe that smirk off your face ;) > > > At 04:52 PM 9/28/2003 -0400, you wrote: > > > > Is this still available? > > > NTO / PCO / NCOM / PDIV / TWS / MIX2 / XFAD / > VCFX / UAP? > > > > > > I have $2100, via Bank of America, ready to send > in the m

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Re: Serge discography?

2003-09-29 by Blake Wilson

John, A couple of others: The McLean Mix (Priscilla and Barton McLean) Ivan Tcherepnin Kevin Braheny kirk degiorgio, of course... and, from what i've heard, nikki sixx of motley crue (no joke!) b. -- M. Blake Wilson is OdysseySounds Email: mbw@... Web: http://members.cox.net/mbw/

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Re: John Duval has panels for sale

2003-09-29 by john duval

--- pstap pstap@... > wrote: > Good evening, > > Is this still available? > NTO / PCO / NCOM / PDIV / TWS / MIX2 / XFAD / VCFX / > UAP? > > I have $2100, via Bank of America, ready to send in > the morning. Send an > address to sen it to :) > > Rodney Stapivic > > Still avaliable

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Re: Serge CD

2003-09-29 by john duval

--- Les Mizzell lesmizz@... > wrote: > > > Post to your hearts content Les... my BS filter is pretty well intact ..i think i can take care of the crazies : ) John > Best of luck selling those panels. There's a few > other places I could > post the list if you wish, but I'm not re

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Re: TEV?

2003-09-29 by kirkdegiorgio

Holy sh*t! Thx John... need to get my head around this TEV thing once I've recovered from those price increases... OUCH! KD > Hi Kirk! > > Please see: http://www.scampers.com/EGRES/shop.html > > It's an unholy crossbreeding of TKB and transient generators. The left > half is a se

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Re: TEV?

2003-09-29 by John Papiewski

Hi Kirk! Please see: http://www.scampers.com/EGRES/shop.html It's an unholy crossbreeding of TKB and transient generators. The left half is a set of 8 touch-triggered transient generators with the pots controlling rise/fall/sustain level and toggle switches that set an AR or sust

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TEV?

2003-09-29 by kirkdegiorgio

Sorry - did I miss something?? What is the TEV - Touch Envelope Source listed for $3200 in the latest STS Price List?? KD

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Re: Serge discography?

2003-09-29 by kirkdegiorgio

feel free to add: Richie Hawtin Stanley Cowell 'Talkin' Bout Love LP "STANLEY COWELL: piano, Fender Rhodes and Yamaha electronic pianos, Mini-Moog and Serge Tcherepinin Modular synthesizer(series 79)" myself :-) (most of my commercially released material since 98 features Serge)

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Re: John Duval has panels for sale

2003-09-28 by pstap

Wipe that smirk off your face ;) At 04:52 PM 9/28/2003 -0400, you wrote: > > Is this still available? > > NTO / PCO / NCOM / PDIV / TWS / MIX2 / XFAD / VCFX / UAP? > > > > I have $2100, via Bank of America, ready to send in the morning. Send an > > address to sen it to :) >Hey Jo

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Re: John Duval has panels for sale

2003-09-28 by Les Mizzell

> > > Is this still available? > NTO / PCO / NCOM / PDIV / TWS / MIX2 / XFAD / VCFX / UAP? > > I have $2100, via Bank of America, ready to send in the morning. Send an > address to sen it to :) > Hey John, Do I get a commission? Heh....... -- Les Mizzell -------------------------

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Re: John Duval has panels for sale

2003-09-28 by pstap

Good evening, Is this still available? NTO / PCO / NCOM / PDIV / TWS / MIX2 / XFAD / VCFX / UAP? I have $2100, via Bank of America, ready to send in the morning. Send an address to sen it to :) Rodney Stapivic At 12:19 AM 9/27/2003 -0400, you wrote: >ADVERTISEMENT! > >The Serge s

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FS: Serge Panel (DSG DTG VCFQX VCFQX VCFS XFAD XFAD XFAD MIX2)

2003-09-28 by Joe Pavone

Panel for sale, Excellent condition, Made in Oakland CA. price $2500 Includes the following modules: DSG ( dual universal slope gen) DTG ( dual transient gen.) VCFQX ( variable Q filter) VCFQX ( variable Q filter) VCFS ( variable slope filter) X FAD ( voltage controlled cross fad

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