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Re: Questions about shop pannels.....

2003-03-10 by cuari7

--- In SergeModular@yahoogroups.com , "John Loffink" wrote: > The Animal shop panel gives a complete voice including envelopes (DTG) > and semi-random control (SSG w/noise). So true. This panel is one little power house! Only thing lacking in it (due to space limitations) is a ri

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Re: Questions about shop pannels.....

2003-03-10 by John Loffink

The Animal shop panel gives a complete voice including envelopes (DTG) and semi-random control (SSG w/noise). Otherwise you would have to go with a pair of panels, Blue Voice plus Blue Control or Red Voice plus Red Control, or mix and match. The voice panel has the audio generati

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Questions about shop pannels.....

2003-03-10 by phlizmo@onebox.com

-- derrick espino phlizmo@... - email (925) 695-2020 x7367 - voicemail/fax I am getting ready to buy a modular and serge seems like a good route for what I do.. Cost as always is an issue so I was wondering, What would be the minimal about of preconfigured shop pannels that one c

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Re: Couple of questions about the "Mysterious Owner" Serge

2003-03-07 by sasami@hotkey.net.au

>The joysticks are from a B-52 Bomber. The module with all the >numbered buttons is definately something the owner made him/her >self. The whole unit with the joysticks on it appears to be all >custom DIY stuff. I would suggest that the keypad module is simply an array of switche

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Re: Pulse sequencer?

2003-03-05 by Ken Stone

--- In SergeModular@yahoogroups.com , John Papiewski wrote: > From what I gathered talking on the phone with Rex, he didn't seem to > want to rerelease the old design - I'm guessing here - as the old design > is not up to the quality or sophistication of the rest of the current s

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Re: Pulse sequencer?

2003-03-05 by John Papiewski

From what I gathered talking on the phone with Rex, he didn't seem to want to rerelease the old design - I'm guessing here - as the old design is not up to the quality or sophistication of the rest of the current stuff. Some of the posts on this thread have got me thinking though

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Re: Pulse sequencer?

2003-03-05 by sasami@hotkey.net.au

If Rex had no problems with it, it would be a VERY simple matter to release the old pulse sequencer as PCB. There is essentially nothing to it. In fact the design is so common-place I doubt Serge could even hold a copyright to it. As for Cynthia's design, look here for the detail

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Re: Couple of questions about the "Mysterious Owner" Serge

2003-03-04 by keeperofthewogglebug <keeperofthewoggleb

The joysticks are from a B-52 Bomber. The module with all the numbered buttons is definately something the owner made him/her self. The whole unit with the joysticks on it appears to be all cutom DIY stuff. -nick --- In SergeModular@yahoogroups.com , John Papiewski wrote: > Ummm.

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Pulse sequencer?

2003-03-03 by John Papiewski

I was talking to Rex the other day about some modules I'd like to see. Serge used to have a pulse sequencer module a long time ago, a sequencer that just gave you a pulse per stage for rythmns. Buchla had something like this too. Rex said in order to do this today he'd want to cr

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Cynthia Modcan-Type modules...

2003-03-03 by synpro@aol.com

Hi, I stumbled across the Cynthia website http://www.cyndustries.com/ who makes some VERY interesting Modcan Compatible modules incuding a vactrol based Quad Lowpass Gate that appears to be very close to the Buchla module of the same name and can run of =/- 12v. Don;t know if thi

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Panels for sale

2003-03-03 by andre B delise

I have 5 pre STS panles for sale, great shape. Email me direct for contact # and details. boldmonk@... Thanks _____________________________________________________________ Get 25MB, POP3, Spam Filtering with LYCOS MAIL PLUS for $19.95/year. http://login.mail.lycos.com/brandPage.s

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(plug) SOLD OUT!

2003-03-02 by John Papiewski

The CD 'Perpendicular Twist' is currently sold out. Anyone wanting to order this, I will get more copies for sale online in the next few days. Please be patient. A few copies of 'another round thing with music on it' remain. Thanks very much! John Papiewski m/n/m/l EGRES etc

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Re: Couple of questions about the "Mysterious Owner" Serge

2003-02-26 by Ken Stone <sasami@hotkey.net.au>

--- In SergeModular@yahoogroups.com , "Michael A. Firman " wrote: > Hi, > > I can't remember what all the MO said about the graphics, but MO had > very detailed reasons for a lot of the images. The only one that comes > to mind right now is that the devil (some image of a Voodoo

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Re: Couple of questions about the "Mysterious Owner" Serge

2003-02-25 by Michael A. Firman <maf@mlswebworks.com>

Hi, I can't remember what all the MO said about the graphics, but MO had very detailed reasons for a lot of the images. The only one that comes to mind right now is that the devil (some image of a Voodoo devil I believe) sits right over the power supply. --- In SergeModular@yahoo

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Re: Couple of questions about the "Mysterious Owner" Serge

2003-02-25 by Les Mizzell

> Ummm... Dale Evan's horse wasn't named 'Trigger' > was it... that was somebody else's? Roy's horse was "Trigger". Dale's horse was "Buttermilk". I had a good friend that owned a "Son of Trigger". Beautiful animal... uhh...some of the graphics on this synth are quite disturbing.

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Re: Couple of questions about the "Mysterious Owner" Serge

2003-02-25 by John Papiewski

Ummm... Dale Evan's horse wasn't named 'Trigger' was it... that was somebody elses? I heard the joysticks are actually from a jet fighter. Press trigger = kaboom or rattattat. The other stuff I have no idea. Perhaps Mysterious Owner is illiterate, and needs pictures to describe m

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Re: Couple of questions about the "Mysterious Owner" Serge

2003-02-25 by cuari7 <medejd@ttuhsc.edu>

I have another question about this weird gizmo: what's with the funky decorations? I thought that's what the reef is smoked for: to add ornamentation to our instruments while they're being played. I wonder if the Mysterious Owner is Kevin Braheny/Fortune (check out the Mighty Ser

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Couple of questions about the "Mysterious Owner" Serge

2003-02-25 by Les Mizzell

Couple of questions about the "Mysterious Owner" synth.. One the bottom right there is a panel with what looks like "Dale Evans on a Horse" and a nine key pad. What the heck is this? You can see part of it here: http://www.scampers.com/egres/gallery_2.html Numbers are arranged in

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Re: Updates to EGRES

2003-02-25 by Les Mizzell

> Nice updates Les. You might consider adjusting the prices as wel What's the price of the new Touch Envelope Voltage Source? I had a scan of the panel here with the price, but it buried under a pile of stuff and I can't find it right now...

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Re: Updates to EGRES

2003-02-25 by Les Mizzell

Hi, Actually, if somebody has a full new price list I'll adjust the whole thing and get it right. I haven't seen a current list. I'll go ahead and update the stuff below. -----Original Message----- From: mrboningen darkflame23@... > [mailto: darkflame23@... ] Sent: Tuesday, Febru

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Re: (plug) m/n/m/l CD's on Sale

2003-02-25 by John Papiewski

Wow, thanks! You can see the main system here: http://www.scampers.com/EGRES/gallery_20.html, it's the 3-panel Serge. The 'photos' were taken from a freeze frame of a video camera, not greatest quality. We have a still camera now so maybe I'll take some better pix. To this 3 pane

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Re: (plug) m/n/m/l CD's on Sale

2003-02-25 by mrboningen <darkflame23@philipkdick.com>

I just received my m/n/m/l (what does that mean anyway John?) "Perpendicular Twist" CD from Darwin Grosse of CreativeSynth.com here in sunny Japan. It's an excellent CD, and the production quality is top notch. I would recommend it to anyone like me who does not yet have a Serge,

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Updates to EGRES

2003-02-25 by mrboningen <darkflame23@philipkdick.com>

Nice updates Les. You might consider adjusting the prices as well, as some are different in my Summer 2002 price list - (in dollars) the QMX is 1,275, the QPC 350, the PS2 250, the PS4 350, the PS6 475, the ROX 300, and the BOX 250. No price cuts anywhere though :(

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Re: [AH] Updates to EGRES, the unofficial Serge Site!

2003-02-23 by John Papiewski

It was a joint venture. I came up with the 'transient hotel' part & Rex thought of the 'Buss Station'. Stinky humor at it's punniest. Nice job, Les! John Papiewski Les Mizzell wrote: > Trimmed for clarity.... > > > >>>> 3. A new shop panel! The "Touch Envelope Voltage Source", >>

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Updates to EGRES, the unofficial Serge Site!

2003-02-23 by Les Mizzell

John P. and I have finally added a few updates to the EGRES (unofficial Serge) site! http://www.scampers.com/egres/ New stuff: 1. Pictures of a amazing system owned by a "Mysterious Collector"! Panel designers take note of the fine Serge panel designs! Heh... Where's Ken Stone? 2

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Re: (plug) m/n/m/l CD's on Sale

2003-02-19 by John Papiewski

The last posting I saw was mid Nov 2002 when the message was 'right around the new year'. Three months have brought no news so it's most likely months off yet. So why wait? Take advantage of the sale and see what somebody can do with a small Serge. metafoetus2002 wrote: > --- In

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Re: (plug) m/n/m/l CD's on Sale

2003-02-19 by metafoetus2002 <jan-hinnerk.helms@t-onli

--- In SergeModular@yahoogroups.com , John Papiewski johnp299792@a...> wrote: > If your pitching arm trembles feverishly waiting for Blake Wilson's > Serge Artist CD, get a fix NOW and soothe the extremity. Are there any news on this or did I just miss a mail when reading through

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Re: Quantizer delay: test results

2003-02-19 by metafoetus2002 <jan-hinnerk.helms@t-onli

--- In SergeModular@yahoogroups.com , Chris Whitten wrote: > Quite ironic, as the usual line out of STS is that Serge modules are > incredibly high spec and can't be surpassed by other makes. > I'm of the opinion that the PSU isn't as bomb proof as claimed also. > CW Hi Chris, ca

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Re: Quadrature Oscillator : WAS - "Phaser vs. Dual Phaser"

2003-02-18 by keeperofthewogglebug <keeperofthewoggleb

Hi! I'm not really sure about the VCA content of the quadrature oscillator [QUO] because I haven't had to fix any. I know it has a real VCO in it and it must have the two VCAs on the outputs. The [QUO] has its own dedicated PCB, which is not stacked. It is the same type of oscill

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(plug) m/n/m/l CD's on Sale

2003-02-17 by John Papiewski

Creativesynth.com is having an artist CD sale this week. Among others you can get m/n/m/l on indestructible CD-R for ten bucks plus a dollar shipping ($11 total). All experi-mental, idiosyncratic, Serge. Handy plastic ordering system. http://www.creativesynth.com/features/TechExp

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Re: Quantizer delay: test results

2003-02-17 by Chris Whitten

> I can't hear any of this in my compositions so i guess this debate has little > value for me. I've heard slewing. No need to test. CW

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Re: Quantizer delay: test results

2003-02-17 by DarkStr717@aol.com

I can't hear any of this in my compositions so i guess this debate has little value for me. Personaly i just don't care about test results. When it comes to music I've always trusted my ears as the final "test" device. Kind regards John DuVal

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Re: Quantizer delay: test results -- making gate pulses from quanti

2003-02-17 by peff2cv <m_2_f@hotmail.com>

FWIW, I mentioned a nonlinear slope to the unwanted portamento on the QTKB--on second look it seems very close to a cap charge/discharge curve. There's most likely a cap somewhere on the input circuitry of the QTKB that is introducing this slew. If changing this cap value doesn't

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Re: Quantizer delay: test results

2003-02-17 by Chris Whitten

> I talked to Rex about it at length and he felt > that the quantizer was not the best design and that was it's normal > behavior. > > My solution was to use 2 doepfer quantizers on the side in a small > cabinet and forget the QTKB. Quite ironic, as the usual line out of STS is t

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Re: Quantizer delay: test results -- making gate pulses from quanti

2003-02-17 by John Papiewski

I wonder if there's something you can trim on the qtkb to fix this delay everybody's talking about? I've listened carefully to my unit & it seems fine. I don't have an asr though. As for the gate pulse, if you patch the quantizer output into the + side of a comparator and the inp

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Re: Quantizer delay: test results

2003-02-17 by Joe Pavone

Hello all.... sorry I didnt jump into this sooner. I have noticed the problem with the quantizer, and it did not bother me much until I was feeding the QTKB outputs into an ASR... The delay from th quantizer can really screw you up here. I talked to Rex about it at length and he

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Re: Quantizer delay: test results

2003-02-16 by John Papiewski

The TKB outputs on the quantizer are already quantized. If you want unquantized outputs use the regular outputs on the TKB itself. jan-hinnerk.helms@... wrote: > Thanks to Peff for the measurements! > > That leaves me with one last QTKB question (yes, and then I won't > mention t

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Re: Quantizer delay: test results

2003-02-16 by jan-hinnerk.helms@t-online.de

Thanks to Peff for the measurements! That leaves me with one last QTKB question (yes, and then I won't mention this again, promised): do its TKB OUTPUTS carry an already quantized signal or are they just "thrus" for the unquantized TKB row outputs? Regarding a quantizer without p

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Re: Quantizer delay: test results

2003-02-16 by Chris Whitten

> I personally have no beef with > delay, but would like to see the portamento eliminated or minimized. I totally agree with you. I haven't noticed a delay but the portamento is extremely annoying. CW

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Quantizer delay: test results

2003-02-16 by peff2cv <m_2_f@hotmail.com>

Ok, folks, I have been reading the continuing quantizer thread(s) and decided to settle it once and for all, at least scientifically... I pulled out the oscilloscope and there IS both a delay and slew (portamento) effect imposed by the QTKB. I initally set the TKB up to alternate

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Re: quantizer delay...

2003-02-15 by prosoy@ultimanet.com

On Sat, 15 Feb 2003, "metafoetus2002 jan-hinnerk.helms@... >" wrote: Every TKB made by STS has an extra cable coming out of the back. You connect this to the cable that comes out of the back of a TKBQ panel. It's that simple and you can also request the length you need. However,

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Re: quantizer delay...

2003-02-15 by metafoetus2002 <jan-hinnerk.helms@t-onli

John, or it may be that I am the Bozo of the year. This was how I tested the QTKB= on George's Serge: I took the TKB OUT A outputs of the QTKB, routed it into th= e QTKB INPUT 1 and used QKTB OUTPUT 1 to control the NTO. I assumed that the TKB OUTS of the QTKB were just duplicate

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quantizer delay...

2003-02-15 by John Papiewski

I've run my TKB quantizer thru hoops this morning, using the tkb part and the open channels and I don't hear any delay. I know there must be some delay since nothing on this earth responds in zero seconds but at least on mine (a one year old STS unit) it's not musically objection

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Re: Sync on Serge

2003-02-13 by echowind73 <echowind73@yahoo.com>

[...] > You need to do conceptually the same patch but > instead of patching the gate output to the gate input, patch the audio > output through a comparator (NCOM) and back into the gate input...I > forgot the exact patch but I will set it up tonight and post it tomorrow. OK her

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Re: Sync on Serge

2003-02-12 by echowind73 <echowind73@yahoo.com>

--- In SergeModular@yahoogroups.com , jan-hinnerk.helms@t... wrote: > Thanks to Chris, John and Blake for filling me up regarding CV > attenuation and CVI details. But as you can imagine, I still have some > questions left (ah...what a surprise): > > According to the catalogue, t

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Re: Phaser vs. Dual Phaser

2003-02-12 by echowind73 <echowind73@yahoo.com>

--- In SergeModular@yahoogroups.com , Blake Wilson wrote: > >Hi all, > > > >Thanks for all the info on the Serge phasers. I have the first > >Telomere CD, so will take another listen! > > and what a fine CD it is. > > could someone please explain how to introduce feedback into a

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Re: Phaser vs. Dual Phaser

2003-02-12 by Blake Wilson

Hi all, Thanks for all the info on the Serge phasers. I have the first Telomere CD, so will take another listen! and what a fine CD it is. could someone please explain how to introduce feedback into a dual phaser? i'm not getting good results here. thx, blake -- M. Blake Wilson i

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Phaser vs. Dual Phaser

2003-02-12 by darkflame 23

Hi all, Thanks for all the info on the Serge phasers. I have the first Telomere CD, so will take another listen! I guess what I really wanted to know though, was what is the difference in functionality between the Phaser and the Dual Phaser, and is it worth shelling out the dosh

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Re: Digest Number 422

2003-02-11 by Cynthia Webster

Hi Everyone! Just a reminder that not all Vactrols are sloths there is a range of different ones, that a circuit Designer can select just like golf clubs! Some are not nearly so "ringy" Best Wishes! Cynthia > Message: 9 > Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 07:33:29 -0000 > From: "keeperofthe

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Quadrature Oscillator : WAS - "Phaser vs. Dual Phaser"

2003-02-11 by phix_it <phix_it@yahoo.com>

Thanks Nick, I stand corrected ( though If you would be kind enough to share a little MORE info that what it's NOT I'm sure many, like myself would appreciate it.) Looking at the description in the catalog I see the two outputs have voltage controlled gain. This would imply the n

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