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Re: A truly "modular" modular

2002-07-09 by DarkStr717@aol.com

In a message dated 7/9/02 1:20:55 PM, cw.chris@... writes: reservations about meddling with a classic, I kind of agree with those that say this is a tedious discussion because nothing is going to change. But don't tell me that STS couldn't come up with a few new module ideas in t

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Re: A truly "modular" modular

2002-07-09 by Chris Whitten

> I always like to think of his answer to people > who have "great ideas" about how he should develop > STS. Something like "that's great, but how about > backing me up with $500,000 for product development". Nick, I don't 'like to think' of that answer I'm afraid. That's what fr

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Re: A truly "modular" modular

2002-07-09 by Spacemodular

Kirk Degiorgio said regarding expanding his record label too much: "Sure the increased income was nice but SO WHAT - I didn't have time to sit down and watch the Simpsons anymore." A man after my own heart. I feel incomplete if I can't vege on Homer et al after grinding all day.

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Re: sts in general

2002-07-09 by ringmod45

--- In SergeModular@y..., "Kirk Degiorgio" wrote: > > Hi RM > > I agree and sympathise with every point you make. Thx for such a > constructive post. > > I would like to repeat a point I made in a recent post that nobody seemed > interested in replying to. It is about the introdu

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Re: sts in general

2002-07-09 by John Papiewski

The Serge HAS undergone all kinds of changes. The early filters especially have been called dirty and grungy, the new ones are very clean. In addition to adding the BLOG, PDIV, and other modules, Rex has done a lot 'under the hood' to clean up & improve various modules... in some

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Re: sts in general

2002-07-08 by Kirk Degiorgio

Hi RM I agree and sympathise with every point you make. Thx for such a constructive post. I would like to repeat a point I made in a recent post that nobody seemed interested in replying to. It is about the introduction of new modules rather than the 'whole panel' issue. When Rex

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Re: the Serge and STS in general

2002-07-08 by Chris Whitten

> but i believe he is doing the Serge modular a disservice by > keeping it the same. the Serge and its production deserves to be > modernized. Now this I totally agree with. As I said before though if Rex wants to run it his own way it's not for us (the customers) to try and chan

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the Serge and STS in general

2002-07-08 by ringmod45

hello everyone, i just want to say a few things. this is from a customer standpoint. i have owned a Serge before.i bought my system used. once i grew accustomed to its workings, i found good and bad things about the system. once i understood the system, i set about on expanding i

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Re: A truly "modular" world

2002-07-08 by angrysavant

--- In SergeModular@y..., "ethanzer0" wrote: > > respect his right to choose how he wants to market them IMO. > > I agree with you Chris, however, > I would say the STS approach appears > not to consider or respect the customer. > > Ethan What, you want vanilla coke? or maybe cok

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Re: A truly "modular" modular

2002-07-08 by angrysavant

--- In SergeModular@y..., "ethanzer0" wrote: > > This has all been dragged over several times before..... > > check the archives. > > > And, just because this has already been > discussed in the archives, it doesn't mean > the discussion is actually done. If a > discussion contin

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Re: A truly "modular" modular

2002-07-08 by angrysavant

--- In SergeModular@y..., "ethanzer0" wrote: > --- In SergeModular@y..., "angrysavant" wrote: > > > > As the owner of several business, I applaud Rex's desire to keep > > As the owner of several businesses, > do you applaud the marketing strategy > of vendors who price themselves

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Re: A truly "modular" modular

2002-07-08 by ethanzer0

> I have responded with... it was not neccessary and incorrect in my > view to try and imply that any of us were in some way applauding > Rex's business policies to be part of some sort of 'elite' > or 'snob' club. > You have to admit that Rolls Royce has snob appeal. By comparin

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Re: A truly "modular" modular

2002-07-08 by Kirk Degiorgio

Implying that the responses were 'extolling snob appeal' is nastier than anything I have responded with... it was not neccessary and incorrect in my view to try and imply that any of us were in some way applauding Rex's business policies to be part of some sort of 'elite' or 'sno

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Re: A truly "modular" modular

2002-07-08 by John Papiewski

> Why not let us buy modules > one at a time if your are having trouble > selling panels? He's not having trouble selling panels. Unless things have changed drastically in the past few months Rex sounded like he was plenty busy. This thread is awful tedious. If ya want a single m

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Re: A truly "modular" modular

2002-07-08 by ethanzer0

> respect his right to choose how he wants to market them IMO. I agree with you Chris, however, I would say the STS approach appears not to consider or respect the customer. Ethan

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Re: A truly "modular" modular

2002-07-08 by ethanzer0

> > Of course, this whole argument will play > > itself out. Does anybody remember OS/2? > > Sure OS/2 was a superior OS and everybody > > knew it... > > What has 'superior' anything got to do with this discussion? > I was under the impression that the current marketing and produ

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Re: A truly "modular" modular

2002-07-08 by Chris Whitten

> And, just because this has already been > discussed in the archives, it doesn't mean > the discussion is actually done. All I'm saying is this has been discussed at length and from all angles. There has even been some heated argument. For what it's worth, the zero web presence

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Re: A truly "modular" modular

2002-07-08 by Kirk Degiorgio

> > This has all been dragged over several times before..... > > check the archives. > > I believe the current version of > this thread started with a question > similar to: Why doesn't STS introduce > new modules the way Modcan et. al does? > > One answer to that question was so

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Re: A truly "modular" modular

2002-07-08 by ethanzer0

> This has all been dragged over several times before..... > check the archives. I believe the current version of this thread started with a question similar to: Why doesn't STS introduce new modules the way Modcan et. al does? One answer to that question was something along the

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Re: A truly "modular" modular

2002-07-08 by Chris Whitten

> As the owner of several businesses, > do you applaud the marketing strategy > of vendors who price themselves out > of their own market? This has all been dragged over several times before..... check the archives. However to answer your particular point, it may be that Rex rega

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Re: A truly "modular" modular

2002-07-08 by ethanzer0

--- In SergeModular@y..., "angrysavant" wrote: > > As the owner of several business, I applaud Rex's desire to keep As the owner of several businesses, do you applaud the marketing strategy of vendors who price themselves out of their own market? Ethan

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anybody selling panels

2002-07-07 by andre B delise

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Re: A truly "modular" modular

2002-07-05 by angrysavant

--- In SergeModular@y..., DarkStr717@a... wrote: > > In a message dated 7/3/02 5:38:45 AM, kirk.degiorgio@b... writes: > As the owner of several business, I applaud Rex's desire to keep things symbiotic and not go plastic. Besides, the price makes us choose our panels carefully a

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Re: SSG

2002-07-03 by DarkStr717@aol.com

The LED on the second clock that you are pulsing should behave and look like your stepped generator......mine did... i didn't check this at the audio level... i was too tired. Sorry if i've wasted everyones time. I guess i'm still just a numbskull. I'm out until Friday... I'll ei

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Re: SSG

2002-07-03 by John Papiewski

Err -- where is the step output? It sounds like you're creating a sort of wacky clock-pulse rhythmn source. But all I see are pulses, not steps. John P aka the central scrutinzer DarkStr717@... wrote: > Got to foolin' around last night and came up with a quasi-stepped generator.

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SSG

2002-07-03 by DarkStr717@aol.com

Got to foolin' around last night and came up with a quasi-stepped generator. If this is redundant or otherwise common knowledge, flame me in private or congratulate me for clawing my way out of blockhead status. Moduals..... VC Clock / Pulse divider gate "out" from one of the clo

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Re: A truly "modular" modular

2002-07-03 by DarkStr717@aol.com

In a message dated 7/3/02 5:38:45 AM, kirk.degiorgio@... writes: would increase demand to the point where STS may have to expand to cope... I may be completely wrong but I'm sure this is the main reason why Rex doesn't offer them this way.. >> This is dead-on correct. I don't thi

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Re: A truly "modular" modular

2002-07-03 by DarkStr717@aol.com

In a message dated 7/2/02 7:23:38 PM, jamos@... writes: front-panel stuff has become so damn cheap and easy >> You might want to discuss that perception with Rex. LOL John D

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Re: A truly "modular" modular

2002-07-03 by Kirk Degiorgio

> So yes, Rex is striking the delicate balance of making enough money and having > enough orders - but not too many. That's exactly what I thought too.... KD

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Re: A truly "modular" modular

2002-07-03 by John Papiewski

Right. Also, in order to just PAY THE BILLS, ie, the techs, the rent, insurance & all the other silly overhead, Rex must charge a certain amount for things, or the whole enterprise just isn't worth it. The cost of running a business is quite frequently more than the sum of the co

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Re: A truly "modular" modular

2002-07-03 by Kirk Degiorgio

again - prohibitive costs is just one method of keeping the amount prospective buyers to a manageable level. So is not having a website with an online order form, etc, etc. KD > one has to ask, why does a ROX or BOX cost $250.00 and $200.00? for a > cut out and folded piece of al

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Re: A truly "modular" modular

2002-07-03 by Kirk Degiorgio

> If serge modules were available > this way I would buy a module > every month or so. and so would *many many* other people and I'll say it again... I don't think Rex wants to get into a situation like that. Did anybody read my recent posts? Individual modules would increase dem

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Re: A truly "modular" modular

2002-07-03 by ringmod45

one has to ask, why does a ROX or BOX cost $250.00 and $200.00? for a cut out and folded piece of aluminum. hmmm, i wonder why? please help me out, i just don't see the value there. there are no circuits, ic's or parts involved, much less a power supply which is an extra $450.00

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Re: A truly "modular" modular

2002-07-03 by Jim Johnson

>> The Serge circuit boards are >> already individual per module. There's something a little strange about this situation. Given that the engineering is already done on the circuitry, and that front-panel stuff has become so damn cheap and easy (just look at what the guys are doi

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Re: A truly "modular" modular

2002-07-02 by ethanzer0

> The Serge circuit boards are > already individual per module. If the Serge circuit boards are already individual per module, and, (besides shop panels) most panels are custom groupings, then the front panel graphics must be done to order. How difficult can it be to put one circ

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Re: A truly "modular" modular

2002-07-02 by John Papiewski

As long as we're wading in wanky speculation here, how bout Modcan providing the faceplate, mounting, & power supply, and Rex providing the graphics & the circuit boards? A marriage made in heaven? The Serge circuit boards are already individual per module. All's needed is an ind

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Re: A truly "modular" modular

2002-07-02 by DarkStr717@aol.com

In a message dated 7/1/02 4:38:08 PM, vsyevolod@... writes: I'm putting my bets on the moon... >> The moon is to close... try something further away........ much further. LOL John D

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Contacting STS

2002-07-02 by Hielo Patagonia Sounds

Many thanks to everybody on the list in my intend to contact STS. Rex Probe himself sent me an email just today !!! Best regards, Hédi Kairouannais ------------------------------------------------------ hielo patagonia sounds - electronic music & soundscape +33 (0)6 87 32 50 27 h

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A truly "modular" modular

2002-07-01 by S V G

Back in the late 70's when kits were still being produced, it was a relatively simple matter to buy one module at a time. I remember that the main objection that Serge had to putting together a panel this way was how the front panel would look. These were the days of paper graphi

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Re: Contacting STS ?

2002-06-30 by Hielo Patagonia Sounds

le 01/07/2002 00:32, John Papiewski à johnp299792@... a écrit : > Hédi > > What are your needs? > > John P. I just need to know how to order a Serge Modular (prices, customs duty, ...). I've asked for all these questions by letter but I'm still waiting for an answer from STS. If

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Re: Contacting STS ?

2002-06-30 by John Papiewski

Hédi What are your needs? John P. Hielo Patagonia Sounds wrote: > Hello everybody on the list, > > I need some helps for contacting someone at STS. I've sent a letter (snail > mail) to STS a month and half ago to know how to purchase a Serge Modular > Music System from France (ho

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Contacting STS ?

2002-06-30 by Hielo Patagonia Sounds

Hello everybody on the list, I need some helps for contacting someone at STS. I've sent a letter (snail mail) to STS a month and half ago to know how to purchase a Serge Modular Music System from France (how to pay, what about customs, ...). But I'm still waiting ... and contacti

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Re: Paging Bridechamber..

2002-06-27 by ethanzer0

--- In SergeModular@y..., "Jim Johnson" wrote: > If there's someone on the list who uses the pseudonym "Bridechamber", > please contact me. Otherwise, I have some interesting info to share. > > Sorry to be so mysterious; don't want to screw anyone over. > Check for auctions on eb

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Paging Bridechamber..

2002-06-27 by Jim Johnson

If there's someone on the list who uses the pseudonym "Bridechamber", please contact me. Otherwise, I have some interesting info to share. Sorry to be so mysterious; don't want to screw anyone over. Jim Johnson Metaphoric Software ------------------- Makers of Techno Toys Softwar

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Re: sub modular serge

2002-06-26 by Les Mizzell

:> Didn't mean to question your word - you just misunderstood an :> "Australianism" :) Heh! I didn't think you were questioning me! It's just that Rex is such a hoot to talk to on the phone, *if* you can ever get him. If you *do* get him on the phone, you may be VERY sorry unless

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Re: sub modular serge

2002-06-26 by ethanzer0

> especially when you get to be over 50..... I should know LOL!!. > He's trying to find the balance between making the "cottage > industry" keep him alive and haveing a life outside of STS. Does > this make any sense??? I understand the desire to avoid legal, insurance, organizat

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Re: sub modular serge

2002-06-26 by sasami@hotkey.net.au

Les Mizzell wrote: >:> My opinion anyway. Rex has stated in the past that this will >:> happen when the moon turns to cheeze. >:> >:> May be true > >Actually, that was Rex's exact words during a phone conversation with him. >He wqs pretty darned adamant about it too. Then he went

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Re: why buy a full panel of Serge

2002-06-26 by metasonix@earthlink.net

>The main exceptions out of the stuff I'm getting are I suppose Blacet >and Wiard – >I think the FENIX people also had daytime jobs, but what about Doepfer. >Hey - and what happens to MOSAIC? And what about us? We're more different than Blacet, Wiard, Buchla etc. all combined....

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Re: sub modular serge

2002-06-25 by DarkStr717@aol.com

In a message dated 6/25/02 2:47:39 AM, lesmizz@... writes: Actually, that was Rex's exact words during a phone conversation with him. He wqs pretty darned adamant about it too. Then he went off on a tangent about fishing or something. Took me almost an hour to get off the phone w

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Re: New STS modules?

2002-06-25 by DarkStr717@aol.com

In a message dated 6/22/02 7:43:53 PM, johnp299792@... writes: personally who just dropped six figures on a Mercedes. The guy who played Spider man in the movie just bought a big house. So it depends. >> So???... these guys play modulars??? haha JD

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