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Serge panel: repair or sell?

2002-06-14 by Jim Johnson

Oy, now I come to the fork in the road with my Serge. My single Serge panel has a checkered past; it's a series 79 that was repackaged in an STS panel. There is no color coding on the jacks; the VCA initial gains are wired backwards; and recently, the filter died. (Which brings m

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Re: lousy tracking on old VCOs

2002-06-14 by sasami@hotkey.net.au

>I read an article some years ago by Grant 'Wiard' Richter, where he had trouble >with old Serge VCO's. What he ended up doing was cleaning the flux & crud off >the PC boards, then recalibrate. They worked great after that. And these were >old vintage modules too, with the paper-

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Re: lousy tracking on old VCOs

2002-06-14 by John Papiewski

I read an article some years ago by Grant 'Wiard' Richter, where he had trouble with old Serge VCO's. What he ended up doing was cleaning the flux & crud off the PC boards, then recalibrate. They worked great after that. And these were old vintage modules too, with the paper-myla

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Re: Alot of serge panels up for auction lately

2002-06-14 by sasami@hotkey.net.au

Chris Whitten cw.chris@... > wrote: >Two things that can't be understated either. >1. The pride of owning a classic instrument. Have you ever lusted over >anything virtual for more than a couple of days after you've bought it? My Serge is a real "classic" - from 1973. It is proba

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Panel sold

2002-06-13 by DarkStr717@aol.com

The Frequency Shifter panel has been sold!!!! yea!! haha ....don't know why I'm so excited... only thing missing from this sale was the vaseline..LMAO!!! Tom got himself a very good panel at a absurd low price.... oh well, Congrats Tom I know you really busted your buns to come u

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AW: AW: [SergeModular] Re: Alot of serge panels up for auction la t

2002-06-13 by Junger Joerg

> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > Von: Chris Whitten [SMTP: cw.chris@... ] > Gesendet am: Mittwoch, 12. Juni 2002 18:39 > An: SergeModular@yahoogroups.com > Betreff: Re: AW: [SergeModular] Re: Alot of serge panels up for > auction lately > > In my very humble opinion DSP and

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Re: AW: [SergeModular] Re: Alot of serge panels up for auction late

2002-06-12 by mm123 ah

Well, nice weather is relative to not so nice weather you would have seen over the winter. Cloudy and warm is better for outside activity than cloudy and snowy. You people flock to your local fish and chips restaurants when it gets warm, dont you? Such a bizarre place, the UK! ;)

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Re: STS has a Sequencer Panel available!

2002-06-12 by Les Mizzell

Tim, What would you like posted to EGRES? Be happy to do that for you! Les Mizzell ::------Original Message----- ::-From: Tim Curtis [mailto: sexsymbol@... ] ::-Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 7:44 PM ::-To: SergeModular@yahoogroups.com ::-Subject: [SergeModular] STS has a Sequenc

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STS has a Sequencer Panel available!

2002-06-12 by Tim Curtis

Hi Everyone - We're in the unusual situation of having a Sequencer panel available and ready to ship. I can't seem to get through to Egres to post a link, so here's the configuration: 8x2 Sequencer Analog Shift Register Active Processor Dual Voltage Controlled Clock Pulse Divider

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Re: Alot of serge panels up for auction lately

2002-06-12 by M. Blake Wilson

Kirk Degiorgio wrote: PRNV - ADSR - RES EQ - BOOL - SQP8 I just want to add stereo external processing capabilities and stereo res eq'ing (hence I need another PRNV and RES EQ), I need another ADSR and could do with the inverters on the Bool - may as well fill out the rest of the

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Re: AW: [SergeModular] Re: Alot of serge panels up for auction late

2002-06-12 by Chris Whitten

> where are the others? i thought most of them were in the northern > hemisphere, where the weather is pretty nice right now. You've obviously never been to England in the Summer! But seriously, quite a few of the panels still for sale date back to early spring if not before. CW

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Re: AW: [SergeModular] Re: Alot of serge panels up for auction late

2002-06-12 by mm123 ah

>nice weather?! LOL! its true. also, obviously the number of panels available are another factor. when theres a large supply and a small demand, things like that can happen. > >not all the Serge panels for sale are in the US remember ;-) where are the others? i thought most of th

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Re: AW: [SergeModular] Re: Alot of serge panels up for auction late

2002-06-12 by Kirk Degiorgio

nice weather?! LOL! not all the Serge panels for sale are in the US remember ;-) KD > Blame the economy and the nice weather for the low Serge prices. Now that > summer is here, people are more likely to hang out outside and think less > about buying gear which will keep them ind

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Re: AW: [SergeModular] Re: Alot of serge panels up for auction late

2002-06-12 by mm123 ah

I agree 100%, especially about the Kurzweils. They are great tools but only if you have a LOT of patience. Also, I have yet to use a computer which can handle playback of more than a few virtual instrument tracks without ASIO crashes. >From: Chris Whitten cw.chris@... > >Reply-To

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Re: AW: [SergeModular] Re: Alot of serge panels up for auction late

2002-06-12 by mm123 ah

Blame the economy and the nice weather for the low Serge prices. Now that summer is here, people are more likely to hang out outside and think less about buying gear which will keep them indoors. Wait until fall, prices will pick up. If youre looking to buy, nows a good time. If

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Re: AW: [SergeModular] Re: Alot of serge panels up for auction late

2002-06-12 by DarkStr717@aol.com

In a message dated 6/12/02 6:43:01 AM, Joerg.Junger@... writes: analog) but still: with software like super collider (now for free) using a computer is a very interesting route to go and it is cheaper: >> I for one banished my computer from the studio. I don't find them interesti

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Re: AW: [SergeModular] Re: Alot of serge panels up for auction late

2002-06-12 by DarkStr717@aol.com

In a message dated 6/12/02 4:32:02 AM, Joerg.Junger@... writes: people go back to digital. with all the sound generation software available today (max/msp, reactor etc) and very powerful computers going for relatively cheap. >> Over my dead body!! LMAO!!!!!! John D

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Re: Alot of serge panels up for auction lately

2002-06-12 by Kirk Degiorgio

PRNV - ADSR - RES EQ - BOOL - SQP8 I just want to add stereo external processing capabilities and stereo res eq'ing (hence I need another PRNV and RES EQ), I need another ADSR and could do with the inverters on the Bool - may as well fill out the rest of the panel with another se

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Re: Alot of serge panels up for auction lately

2002-06-12 by DarkStr717@aol.com

In a message dated 6/12/02 1:53:37 AM, kirk.degiorgio@... writes: panels are taken from larger systems and do not always appeal to newcomers or existing owners adding to systems because of the module compliment. >> This is exactly the case. It is the main reason why i have so muc

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Re: Alot of serge panels up for auction lately

2002-06-12 by DarkStr717@aol.com

In a message dated 6/10/02 11:51:39 AM, kirk.degiorgio@... writes: I *really* need. >> What do you really need???.... maybe i have something that works for you that i don't mind parting with. hahaha JD

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Re: Alot of serge panels up for auction lately

2002-06-12 by DarkStr717@aol.com

In a message dated 6/10/02 11:23:25 AM, ethanzer0@... writes: I have been drooling over the seemingly steady stream of Serge panels up for auction lately. Then, I stopped and asked my self: why are people dumping their serge panels? Anybody have any insight? >> Yea..... I need th

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another Serge recording

2002-06-12 by ginorobair

A note for whomever is keeping track of records featuring Serge gear: I just noticed that Alvin Curran's LP "The Works" features a Serge synthesizer. As I was getting ready to Eb*y my duplicate copy, I finally (after having the LP for years) read the liner notes. Doh! Curran comb

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Re: new modules on their way (not serge, sorry!)

2002-06-12 by its_peake

--- In SergeModular@y..., Chris Whitten wrote: > > > for the dumb question, but i know the blacets will fit in a frac rac > > (which i've got). what about the others? if not, what are my racking > > options that will accomodate all three brands, in any? > Can't think of anything

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Re: AW: [SergeModular] Re: Alot of serge panels up for auction late

2002-06-12 by Chris Whitten

In my very humble opinion DSP and Virtual software cannot presently replace hardware equivalents. As someone said though, they often compliment extremely well. I personally don't think that virtual Eq's, reverbs or compressors sound the same or as good as the hardware items they

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Re: Alot of serge panels up for auction lately

2002-06-12 by Kirk Degiorgio

i know... point taken. sorry if i sounded argumentative :-) kd > i didn't want to argue against the bad economical situation as a reason for > increased gear sale, instead i tried to come up with more potential > explanations besides that ;). > > joerg > > > > > >>> Rentenanstalt

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Re: Alot of serge panels up for auction lately

2002-06-12 by Kirk Degiorgio

me too. I sold my K2000 to make way for a Doepfer Modular... got hooked and sold that to get some Serge panels... if anything Reaktor is a better replacement for my Wave - the Wavetable ensembles are superb - but Reaktor is still missing that 'x' factor that I get from the Waves

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Re: Alot of serge panels up for auction lately

2002-06-12 by Kirk Degiorgio

let's hope so..... more analogue up for grabs the better! i have Reaktor v3 and a 4 panel Serge. I think they compliment each other and certainly wouldn't sell my Serge because of any software developments... but if others feel the need to.. great! reaktor + laptop is also such a

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AW: [SergeModular] Re: Alot of serge panels up for auction lately

2002-06-12 by Junger Joerg

hm, sure there are people taking the opposite path (digital -> analog) but still: with software like super collider (now for free) using a computer is a very interesting route to go and it is cheaper: buy an ibook with an internal cd-burner and you're more or less done. and most

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Re: Alot of serge panels up for auction lately

2002-06-12 by ethanzer0

> Also - of course Serge is not like ARP, Buchla, etc in that it is > still I have read elsewhere that audities.org was considering a production run of some Buchla modules with the Don's blessing. Has anyone else heard of this? Thanks again, Ethan

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Re: Alot of serge panels up for auction lately

2002-06-12 by John Loffink

Very well stated. Once you start a Serge system the module selection becomes a very personal choice. Many of the panels up for sale have been fairly odd configurations, and certainly represented very personal choices for their original owners. John Loffink jloffink@... > My theor

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Re: Alot of serge panels up for auction lately

2002-06-12 by John Loffink

Funny, I took exactly the opposite path. The Kurzweil VAST architecture in the K2X00 and Native Instrument's Reaktor revived my interest in modular synthesis. VAST has excellent programmability. I once created a patch that played diatonic scales from the modulation wheel and sequ

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AW: [SergeModular] Re: Alot of serge panels up for auction lately

2002-06-12 by Junger Joerg

hm. there may be another reason why more systems show up recently: a lot of people go back to digital. with all the sound generation software available today (max/msp, reactor etc) and very powerful computers going for relatively cheap. then it's tempting to sell gear that repres

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Re: Alot of serge panels up for auction lately

2002-06-12 by Kirk Degiorgio

> A lot of the Arp's and Moog's I've seen recently for sale have been cheaper > than ever. The problem with Serge panels is we all value them too highly. As > a 'used' item they obviously depreciate more than we are willing to > accept.....at least in the current market. My theor

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Re: Alot of serge panels up for auction lately

2002-06-12 by John Loffink

I've never used one. This module isn't offered by Rex unless he's willing to do one offs. You might want to take another look at that system on ebay. John Loffink jloffink@... > -----Original Message----- > From: ringmod45 [mailto: ringmod45@... ] > Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 1

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Re: Alot of serge panels up for auction lately

2002-06-12 by ringmod45

hi john, thanks for the info. the ebay picture was not very clear. i can see the potential for a module like this one. it is definitely going to be included in a possible 3 or 4 panel sequencer system i am planning to order. have you ever used one? if so, could you please give us

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Re: Alot of serge panels up for auction lately

2002-06-11 by skuehnl

--- In SergeModular@y..., Chris Whitten wrote: > Sebastian et al, > > Hmm, so who are the (rich) people buying all the ARPs and Moogs and > > Buchlas? > A lot of the Arp's and Moog's I've seen recently for sale have been cheaper > than ever. The problem with Serge panels is we al

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Re: Alot of serge panels up for auction lately

2002-06-11 by John Loffink

That sequencer module is in the late 1970s Serge Catalog that I put on the Yahoo Serge file site. It has ten pulse outputs. John Loffink jloffink@... > -----Original Message----- > From: ringmod45 [mailto: ringmod45@... ] > Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 1:22 PM > To: SergeModular@

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Re: Alot of serge panels up for auction lately

2002-06-11 by ringmod45

--- In SergeModular@y..., "skuehnl" wrote: > Hello Kirk,> BTW, what is the module labelled "Sequencer/ outputs" on the lower > panel shown at the following URL? > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/ebayISAPI.dll? MfcISAPICommand=ViewItem&item=883 > 244424&indexURL=0&photoDisplayType=2#ebayla

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Re: new modules on their way (not serge, sorry!)

2002-06-11 by Chris Whitten

> for the dumb question, but i know the blacets will fit in a frac rac > (which i've got). what about the others? if not, what are my racking > options that will accomodate all three brands, in any? Can't think of anything for all. A 3U rack from AS or Doepfer will accommodate al

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new modules on their way (not serge, sorry!)

2002-06-11 by m. blake wilson

friends: i have just ordered some interesting modules to complement my serge setup, including items from doepfer, analogue systems, and blacet. sorry for the dumb question, but i know the blacets will fit in a frac rac (which i've got). what about the others? if not, what are my

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speak of the devil: more serge FA!

2002-06-11 by m. blake wilson

we're talking about all the serge that available, and now this: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=883244424 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=883244424 > interesting sequencer panel, i suppose. b. -- m. blake wilson is OdysseySounds email: mbw@..

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Re: Alot of serge panels up for auction lately

2002-06-11 by Kirk Degiorgio

> Hmm, so who are the (rich) people buying all the ARPs and Moogs and > Buchlas? actually the prices have been pretty reasonable compared to recent years... £8000 for a Near Mint Moog System 55, $11,000 for a Near Mint ARP 2500, etc. The Fenix prices have been high - probably due

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Re: Alot of serge panels up for auction lately

2002-06-11 by Chris Whitten

Sebastian et al, > Hmm, so who are the (rich) people buying all the ARPs and Moogs and > Buchlas? A lot of the Arp's and Moog's I've seen recently for sale have been cheaper than ever. The problem with Serge panels is we all value them too highly. As a 'used' item they obviously

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Re: Alot of serge panels up for auction lately

2002-06-11 by skuehnl

Hello Kirk, --- In SergeModular@y..., "Kirk Degiorgio" wrote: > > loads of good gear for sale in general... not just Serge. > > ARP 2500, at least 4 Fenix systems, Roland 100m's, a NM Moog 55, > some nice Buchla stuff at AMS, etc, etc - all in recent months. > > Must be the econo

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Re: Alot of serge panels up for auction lately

2002-06-10 by Kirk Degiorgio

loads of good gear for sale in general... not just Serge. ARP 2500, at least 4 Fenix systems, Roland 100m's, a NM Moog 55, some nice Buchla stuff at AMS, etc, etc - all in recent months. Must be the economic downturn - or possibly music business downturn specifically. I just wish

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Alot of serge panels up for auction lately

2002-06-10 by ethanzer0

Hello, I have been drooling over the seemingly steady stream of Serge panels up for auction lately. Then, I stopped and asked my self: why are people dumping their serge panels? Anybody have any insight? Thanks, Ethan

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Re: !!! new serge modular planner is up!!!

2002-06-08 by John Loffink

These sort of images can be generated by cutting and pasting. It's tedious but works. I have an image of the UPAP (4 wide) created this way if anybody needs it. I also have a "patch sheet" for the only standard model Serge shipped, the Series 79, three panels including the UPAP.

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Re: !!! new serge modular planner is up!!!

2002-06-08 by jamescoplin

no, these are still the only three images missing. it would be great to have a complete set. it would be great if i could get tehm from you. james --- In SergeModular@y..., Bill Sequeira wrote: > James, > > Where you able to get graphics for the CVI/SQP6/8? I may have > some time

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