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Re: ~ Warning ~ Mouser Knobs Not Good

2002-06-25 by M. Blake Wilson

cyndustries wrote: Hi Group! The incredibly low priced Serge style Davies 1900-h knobs from Mouser arrived today... and they have No Pointers! Bummer! I cannot recommend them, and am returning all of these to Mouser right away! If anyone knows a good deal on the right ones - plea

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Re: sub modular serge

2002-06-25 by Les Mizzell

:> The reason I have been asking is because I have been :> contemplating releasing some of my circuits in :> something like the Serge format. That's OK. Cynthia is building two burst generators in Modcan format with my name on them. Trying to talk her into a Psycho LFO as well. :

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Re: sub modular serge

2002-06-25 by Chris Whitten

> May be true, but what if someone else made modules that were compatible with > the Serge philosophy, yet available as individual modules? It depends what you mean by 'compatible'. As far as I'm concerned you would have to offer something different from ModCan. Some of Bruce's m

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sub modular serge

2002-06-25 by sasami@hotkey.net.au

Les wrote: >I've got no problem with the width they are when included in a full panel. >You'd want them to not vary from what's current so they'd match panels you >already own, right? I guess they could be made to the 1" format. >You'd simply use a "frac-rack" type mounting for t

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Re: ~ Warning ~ Mouser Knobs Not Good

2002-06-25 by Les Mizzell

Uh, which knobs did you order? I've been replacing MOTM knobs with exact Modcan knobs and they've got pointers. Will look up the part number and stuff for you tomorrow morning... -----Original Message----- From: cyndustries [mailto: cynthia.webster@... ] Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2

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~ Warning ~ Mouser Knobs Not Good

2002-06-25 by cyndustries

Hi Group! The incredibly low priced Serge style Davies 1900-h knobs from Mouser arrived today... and they have No Pointers! Bummer! I cannot recommend them, and am returning all of these to Mouser right away! If anyone knows a good deal on the right ones - please feel free to con

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Re: individual modules ...

2002-06-24 by Kirk Degiorgio

Please correct me if I'm wrong but I thought the reasoning behind Rex not selling individual modules was down to him not wanting STS to expand beyond his capabilties or wishes. I'm sure R&D costs are prohibitive for new modules but if Modcan and Wiard can do it I'm sure Rex could

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Re: banana-ized doepfer and analogue systems

2002-06-24 by cuari7

--- In SergeModular@y..., matt wilson wrote: > greetings: > > johnson banana jacks fit right into both brands' holes with no mod needed. Very nice, Blake. If you check out my babanized Doeph, I actually used larger, sturdier 'nanners (Pomona), which have metal posts in which the

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Re: individual modules ...

2002-06-24 by John Papiewski

As far as I know, all the Serge modules are already based on individual independent circuit boards. With a few exceptions, all that's needed is a mechanical rework. Maybe if Rex & Bruce Duncan worked something out then Serge modules could be available individually... Bruce alread

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Re: Serge CD status??

2002-06-24 by M. Blake Wilson

John Papiewski wrote: Blake, What's new with the Serge musician's CD? Any news? both the original tape and the new comp are at the mastering house at the moment. he's on the list and will see that folks are frothing at the mouth to get this project available. b. -- M. BLAKE WILSO

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Serge CD status??

2002-06-24 by John Papiewski

Blake, What's new with the Serge musician's CD? Any news? John P

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individual modules ...

2002-06-24 by darylmey

The main exceptions out of the stuff I'm getting are I suppose Blacet and Wiard – I think the FENIX people also had daytime jobs, but what about Doepfer. Ok – his stuff is considered as for the `mass market'. And also I'm nit the only one who does not understand why Rex still res

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banana-ized doepfer and analogue systems

2002-06-24 by matt wilson

greetings: phase one of this project is completed. i installed banana jacks in 2 (each) doepfer and analogue systems modules, which was a piece of cake, particularly for the AS units, which both had separate PCBs as mounts for the 1/8" jacks. the doepfer units had the jacks mount

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New Modules

2002-06-24 by datacult

Serge users will dig this, neu stuff: www.modcan.com

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building/adapting

2002-06-24 by Cynthia Webster

Hi Group! Thanks for the mention Les! However you forgot to include The Blacet Dark Star Chaos, and Buchla 292 Quad Low Pass Gates in your list of CYNTHIA limited Edition Modcanese modules More are in the works... Cynthia _______ _______ Message: 5 Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2002 10:46:25

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Re: New STS modules?

2002-06-24 by Chris Whitten

> Maybe an Official STS.com or Serge.com > website would help. It's been suggested and rejected. > Was there ever a time when serge could > be purchased in single modules? > Presumably when they were available in kit form. CW

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Re: New STS modules?

2002-06-24 by ethanzer0

> I agree, I'm sure you are right. > I'm still puzzled though how > these other small modular makers > can expand their customer base > and introduce new modules while > STS can not CW. Maybe an Official STS.com or Serge.com website would help. Individual modules would also help

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Re: New STS modules?

2002-06-23 by Scott Evans, Gen Mgr

My choice to not opt for a Serge synth was heavily influenced by the fixed panel design, both in the all at once cost outlay and the inflexibility once the panel was "fixed". I think that the Serge synth would have been my choice had this not been the case. From a functionality s

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Re: New STS modules?

2002-06-23 by Les Mizzell

> If you must have individual modules with banana > jack interfaces then buy Modcan. That' exactly what I've got > Another option is to modify existing modules from > one format to another manufacturer or DIY boards > available from Oakley, EFM, etc. Doing that too. Cynthia Webst

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Re: New STS modules?

2002-06-23 by John Loffink

> > You'd simply use a "frac-rack" type mounting for them. > > > My opinion anyway. Rex has stated in the past that this will happen when > the > moon turns to cheeze. > IMHO we are extremely fortunate in our choices in modular synthesizers. We have today Serge, Wiard, Blacet, Sy

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Re: New STS modules?

2002-06-23 by Chris Whitten

> For that matter, how many people would be interested in buying modules > produced by other companies if they fit into the serge format either as sub > panels, or full panels? I'd say probably most Serge owners and many people who can't currently afford a 'starter' panel. For on

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Re: New STS modules?

2002-06-23 by Les Mizzell

> On this front, what would people want to be the "standard" widths for such > sub-panels, and how many people would actually be interested in buying them > this way? I've got no problem with the width they are when included in a full panel. You'd want them to not vary from what'

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Re: New STS modules?

2002-06-23 by sasami@hotkey.net.au

>I still contend that Rex is *not* doing himself a favour by refusing to >produce individual modules instead of full panels. The Serge modules are, >individually, competitevly priced against the competition. I'd buy a few >right now if I didn't have to get an entire $2850.00 pane

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Re: New STS modules?

2002-06-23 by John Papiewski

I really wouldn't consider Wiard to be Grant's hobby.... his orders fluctuate and he does other engineering projects on occasion but Wiard really is his bread & butter... As for a sucky economy, while this is true generally, and while some individuals are getting pinched, some ar

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Re: New STS modules?

2002-06-23 by skuehnl

--- In SergeModular@y..., "Les Mizzell" wrote: > > I still contend that Rex is *not* doing himself a favour by refusing to > produce individual modules instead of full panels. The Serge modules are, > individually, competitevly priced against the competition. I'd buy a few > righ

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Re: New STS modules?

2002-06-23 by John Loffink

> > The economy sucks. There isn't any money for R&D. > How do Wiard, MOTM and ModCan manage to stay afloat while often releasing > new modules? Wiard, MOTM and Modcan are basically hobbies. Their R&D is funded by their owners. Okay, I might be wrong about Wiard, but do know that

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Re: New STS modules?

2002-06-22 by Les Mizzell

> I'm still puzzled though how these other >small modular makers can expand their customer base and introduce new >modules while STS can not. Biggest difference: Paul over at MOTM has a day job. Bruce at Modcan (I own a growing Modcan system) has, to the best of my knowledge, a d

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Re: New STS modules?

2002-06-22 by Norman Fay

In message cw.chris@... >, Chris Whitten cw.chris@... > writes > I'm still puzzled though how these other >small modular makers can expand their customer base and introduce new >modules while STS can not. >CW > I'm sure to some extent this is because some other manufacturers prod

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Re: New STS modules?

2002-06-22 by Chris Whitten

> I have also had many conversations with Rex > about moduals and mods ( Resonant EQ and TKB) That would be exciting. > The economy sucks. There isn't any money for R&D. How do Wiard, MOTM and ModCan manage to stay afloat while often releasing new modules? >just getting enough or

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Re: New STS modules?

2002-06-22 by DarkStr717@aol.com

In a message dated 6/21/02 11:28:43 AM, bfelton@... writes: personally if it doesn't go anywhere, or doesn't go quickly into process -- that does not seem to be where Rex's head is at. And all, please note -- these are *my* impressions of what I heard Rex saying, including a fair

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Re: New STS modules?

2002-06-21 by RFahl

Hello Bill, Have you resurrected Monster so that it can play with your Serge? Seems like they would be a good combination. I've gotten into a rut of building and not playing. Somehow building is strangely addictive to me. Romeo ----- Original Message ----- From: William Felton bf

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Re: New STS modules?

2002-06-21 by William Felton

Coincidentally, I spoke with Rex hardly an hour ago. We discussed, peripherally, research and development and new modules and so forth. Bottom line for Rex seems to be that this is not a good time to be sinking money in R&D as opposed to maintaining build quality and keeping the

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New STS modules?

2002-06-21 by peff2cv

> Why don't STS have *any* new modules in development. Is Rex open to input from customers? I got a module idea that (IMHO) would be awesome to see "Sergified" but if he isn't interested, I might just do it myself and release the design on Synth-DIY... Peff

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Re: davies knobs for the serge

2002-06-21 by Chris Whitten

>why doesnt' serge have a frequency to voltage module? Why don't STS have *any* new modules in development. Even Buchla are proposing a couple of new designs. Ah yes but I think we've had this 'flame war' before. CW

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Re: davies knobs for the serge

2002-06-20 by M. Blake Wilson

DarkStr717@... wrote: ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz............................. thud. JD yessssssssssss......my baaaaaaaad.......now, why doesnt' serge have a frequency to voltage module? i just hooked up an analogue systems device and have been having loads of fun with a

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Re: davies knobs for the serge

2002-06-20 by DarkStr717@aol.com

In a message dated 6/20/02 2:08:51 PM, mbwlaw@... writes: > > why do you think lines are there in the first place? > A bit less of the cheek wouldn't go amiss for a start. agreed. > > Secondly I just thought a statement that they would be 'useless' was a > bit > strong. > I tend

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Re: davies knobs for the serge

2002-06-20 by M. Blake Wilson

Chris Whitten wrote: > why do you think lines are there in the first place? A bit less of the cheek wouldn't go amiss for a start. agreed. Secondly I just thought a statement that they would be 'useless' was a bit strong. I tend to get a sound by twiddling a few knobs say in the

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Re: davies knobs for the serge

2002-06-20 by Chris Whitten

> why do you think lines are there in the first place? A bit less of the cheek wouldn't go amiss for a start. Secondly I just thought a statement that they would be 'useless' was a bit strong. I tend to get a sound by twiddling a few knobs say in the case of filter frequency. Onc

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Re: davies knobs for the serge

2002-06-20 by m. blake wilson

Chris Whitten wrote: > > close but no cigar: the cheaper davies knobs from mouser *have no > > pointer line* and are therefore useless for the serge. > It doesn't take much to add a little blob to indicate position. > In any case, why would they be useless? > There are no graded

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Re: davies knobs for the serge

2002-06-20 by Chris Whitten

> close but no cigar: the cheaper davies knobs from mouser *have no > pointer line* and are therefore useless for the serge. It doesn't take much to add a little blob to indicate position. In any case, why would they be useless? There are no graded markings on the facia so you ar

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Re: davies knobs for the serge

2002-06-20 by Bill Sequeira

Interesting and good to know. Maybe we should open a "line painting" business? ;-) Regards, Bill ______________________________________________________________ William Sequeira, Ph.D. -- Principal, Axon Hillock, Inc. > From: Blake Wilson Law Office mbwlaw@... > > Reply-To: SergeM

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Re: davies knobs for the serge

2002-06-20 by Blake Wilson Law Office

Bill Sequeira wrote: > As an alternative to Allied and a better price on the Davies knobs > you can look at Mouser Electronics > > Davies Molding 1900-h knob: Single order price is $1.17 each, > $1.05 for 10, .70 for 100, and .59 for 500 knobs. > > Credit to Cynthia Webster for f

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Re: davies knobs for the serge

2002-06-20 by Bill Sequeira

As an alternative to Allied and a better price on the Davies knobs you can look at Mouser Electronics Davies Molding 1900-h knob: Single order price is $1.17 each, $1.05 for 10, .70 for 100, and .59 for 500 knobs. Credit to Cynthia Webster for finding the good deal. Regards, Bill

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davies knobs for the serge

2002-06-20 by m. blake wilson

for the archives: the serge modular uses knobs manufactured by davies and available at: http://www.alliedelec.com/ part number is 543-0400 $2 each. blake -- m. blake wilson is OdysseySounds email: mbw@... web: http://members.cox.net/mbw/construction.htm music: http://artists.mp3s

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Re: STS has a Sequencer Panel available!

2002-06-17 by Tim Curtis

Hi Les - Sorry that it took so long to get back to you. I don't really need anything posted to egres at this time - I was actually trying to some up with the page that contains the Sequencer Panel info in case someone wanted to read more about the panel that's for sale. Thanks! T

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Re: Serge panel: repair or sell?

2002-06-15 by DarkStr717@aol.com

In a message dated 6/15/02 3:04:26 AM, cw.chris@... writes: other banana systems out there are Modcan or a $3,000 Fenix >> Well you could ask Paul to send you MOTM modules without jacks at all and wire in bananas. He did it for me. I don't think he would object. John D

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jack and panel comingling conundrums

2002-06-15 by m. blake wilson

first of all, kudos to blacet and doug at enport for taking orders and shipping right away: i ordered from both companies monday, received from blacet on wednesday, and from enport yesterday. fast service. (if you missed my last post, i'm straying from the serge camp in a quest t

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Re: Serge panel: repair or sell?

2002-06-15 by Jim Johnson

>Here's a raw observation... >If you're not going to expand with Serge why go to the expense of custom >banana front panels? Not an unreasonable question. I already have a Fenix, and the sequencer I'm having built (Mikado) is also a banana system. Jim *********** REPLY SEPARATOR

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Re: Serge panel: repair or sell?

2002-06-15 by Chris Whitten

> I'll "replace it" with Oakley and MOTM modules > in custom banana-jack front panels. I do intend to expand, but probably not > with Serge; Here's a raw observation... If you're not going to expand with Serge why go to the expense of custom banana front panels? I agree that the

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