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RE: [SynthModules] Digest Number 272

2006-03-01 by rdrake

Brice,

I am in the process of setting up a site where users of your product can discuss and share code.  To avoid some of the current issues regarding ownership and licensing, I propose that the actual authors of the individual programs post their own code, and will leave it to their discretion what licensing restrictions (if any) they wish to include.  

This site is not intended to compete with the resources you have set up, nor is an attack on you personally.  I'm trying to constructivly address a couple of the issues (code ownership, availability & licensing) we've been discussing.  Perhaps by alleviating the burden of "managing" PSIM programming code, you'll have more time to devote to fulfilling your hardware committments.  I hope that you'll choose to contribute your own PSIM code to the site when you have time (licensed as you see fit), but obviously that will be your choice.

If you have any concerns regarding this project (potential infringement, etc.), please let me know in the next couple of days so that I can address them.  Best of luck with all.

regards
Bob Drake
rdrake@data2action.com

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>
>Message: 19	    
>   Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2006 08:09:07 -0000
>   From: "synthmodules"
><synthmodules@synthmodules.com>
>Subject: SynthModules PSIM-1 Programs - PUBLIC
>DOMAIN
>
>Gary makes a good point.  My intentions were good
>and I was trying to
>make it in the best interest of the community
>(although it seems that
>was misunderstood).  Anyway, I am in the process of
>changing the
>headers on all the code to reflect ALL PSIM-1 code
>is PUBLIC DOMAIN.  
>
>Please note, the code many of you were seeing that
>was still on the
>Web site (although the link didn't work on purpose,
>some managed to
>find old code sitting around from last year with a
>very early form of
>the GPL header inserted as a test) is NOT the code
>that was supposed
>to be seen or used.  It has been removed so there
>will be no further
>confusion until I can get all the programs fixed
>with the PUBLIC
>DOMAIN header.  Also, my wording in the header may
>have been
>confusing.  I was in no way trying to imply the
>CODE was my
>intellectual property.  I did design the PSIM-1
>(and yes, as you all
>know Grant did help some, but he did not design
>it).  I think I still
>deserve credit for the idea and design and would
>like something in the
>header that states it.  Is that so wrong?  If not,
>any suggestions as
>to the wording so no one gets upset?
>
>- Brice
>http://www.SynthModules.com 
>
>

Re: Digest Number 272

2006-03-01 by synthmodules

Bob,

I believe this is unnecessary.  I have already re-opened the "Files"
section of this group to members so everyone can upload/download code
again.  The files there are in their original form without change. 
They are as the authors uploaded them.  I have also noted that *all*
PSIM-1 programs are PUBLIC DOMAIN... so I believe this addresses all
the issues you stated.

I'm working on cleaning up the code to make sure all the programs are
consistant with the header including the PUBLIC DOMAIN statement.  I
am looking for input from the community on the wording of the header
as I stated in my previous message.

I hope this clears up issues regarding availability of code.  At one
point I was working on a better way to share the code, but this site
is the easiest for everyone to use.

Take care,

Brice
http://www.SynthModules.com 

--- In SynthModules@yahoogroups.com, "rdrake" <rdrake@...> wrote:
>
> Brice,
> 
> I am in the process of setting up a site where users of your product
can discuss and share code.  To avoid some of the current issues
regarding ownership and licensing, I propose that the actual authors
of the individual programs post their own code, and will leave it to
their discretion what licensing restrictions (if any) they wish to
include.  
> 
> This site is not intended to compete with the resources you have set
up, nor is an attack on you personally.  I'm trying to constructivly
address a couple of the issues (code ownership, availability &
licensing) we've been discussing.  Perhaps by alleviating the burden
of "managing" PSIM programming code, you'll have more time to devote
to fulfilling your hardware committments.  I hope that you'll choose
to contribute your own PSIM code to the site when you have time
(licensed as you see fit), but obviously that will be your choice.
> 
> If you have any concerns regarding this project (potential
infringement, etc.), please let me know in the next couple of days so
that I can address them.  Best of luck with all.

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> 
> regards
> Bob Drake
> rdrake@... 
> 
> 
> >
> >Message: 19	    
> >   Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2006 08:09:07 -0000
> >   From: "synthmodules"
> ><synthmodules@...>
> >Subject: SynthModules PSIM-1 Programs - PUBLIC
> >DOMAIN
> >
> >Gary makes a good point.  My intentions were good
> >and I was trying to
> >make it in the best interest of the community
> >(although it seems that
> >was misunderstood).  Anyway, I am in the process of
> >changing the
> >headers on all the code to reflect ALL PSIM-1 code
> >is PUBLIC DOMAIN.  
> >
> >Please note, the code many of you were seeing that
> >was still on the
> >Web site (although the link didn't work on purpose,
> >some managed to
> >find old code sitting around from last year with a
> >very early form of
> >the GPL header inserted as a test) is NOT the code
> >that was supposed
> >to be seen or used.  It has been removed so there
> >will be no further
> >confusion until I can get all the programs fixed
> >with the PUBLIC
> >DOMAIN header.  Also, my wording in the header may
> >have been
> >confusing.  I was in no way trying to imply the
> >CODE was my
> >intellectual property.  I did design the PSIM-1
> >(and yes, as you all
> >know Grant did help some, but he did not design
> >it).  I think I still
> >deserve credit for the idea and design and would
> >like something in the
> >header that states it.  Is that so wrong?  If not,
> >any suggestions as
> >to the wording so no one gets upset?
> >
> >- Brice
> >http://www.SynthModules.com 
> >
> >
>

Re: [SynthModules] Re: Digest Number 272

2006-03-01 by ac

Brice,

Please forget messing with code and finish building and shipping the
modules. The code, right now, means nothing to most of us.

Thank you.

ac

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On 01/03/06, synthmodules <synthmodules@synthmodules.com> wrote:
> Bob,
>
> I believe this is unnecessary.  I have already re-opened the "Files"
> section of this group to members so everyone can upload/download code
> again.  The files there are in their original form without change.
> They are as the authors uploaded them.  I have also noted that *all*
> PSIM-1 programs are PUBLIC DOMAIN... so I believe this addresses all
> the issues you stated.
>
> I'm working on cleaning up the code to make sure all the programs are
> consistant with the header including the PUBLIC DOMAIN statement.  I
> am looking for input from the community on the wording of the header
> as I stated in my previous message.
>
> I hope this clears up issues regarding availability of code.  At one
> point I was working on a better way to share the code, but this site
> is the easiest for everyone to use.
>
> Take care,
>
> Brice
> http://www.SynthModules.com
>
> --- In SynthModules@yahoogroups.com, "rdrake" <rdrake@...> wrote:
> >
> > Brice,
> >
> > I am in the process of setting up a site where users of your product
> can discuss and share code.  To avoid some of the current issues
> regarding ownership and licensing, I propose that the actual authors
> of the individual programs post their own code, and will leave it to
> their discretion what licensing restrictions (if any) they wish to
> include.
> >
> > This site is not intended to compete with the resources you have set
> up, nor is an attack on you personally.  I'm trying to constructivly
> address a couple of the issues (code ownership, availability &
> licensing) we've been discussing.  Perhaps by alleviating the burden
> of "managing" PSIM programming code, you'll have more time to devote
> to fulfilling your hardware committments.  I hope that you'll choose
> to contribute your own PSIM code to the site when you have time
> (licensed as you see fit), but obviously that will be your choice.
> >
> > If you have any concerns regarding this project (potential
> infringement, etc.), please let me know in the next couple of days so
> that I can address them.  Best of luck with all.
> >
> > regards
> > Bob Drake
> > rdrake@...
> >
> >
> > >
> > >Message: 19
> > >   Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2006 08:09:07 -0000
> > >   From: "synthmodules"
> > ><synthmodules@...>
> > >Subject: SynthModules PSIM-1 Programs - PUBLIC
> > >DOMAIN
> > >
> > >Gary makes a good point.  My intentions were good
> > >and I was trying to
> > >make it in the best interest of the community
> > >(although it seems that
> > >was misunderstood).  Anyway, I am in the process of
> > >changing the
> > >headers on all the code to reflect ALL PSIM-1 code
> > >is PUBLIC DOMAIN.
> > >
> > >Please note, the code many of you were seeing that
> > >was still on the
> > >Web site (although the link didn't work on purpose,
> > >some managed to
> > >find old code sitting around from last year with a
> > >very early form of
> > >the GPL header inserted as a test) is NOT the code
> > >that was supposed
> > >to be seen or used.  It has been removed so there
> > >will be no further
> > >confusion until I can get all the programs fixed
> > >with the PUBLIC
> > >DOMAIN header.  Also, my wording in the header may
> > >have been
> > >confusing.  I was in no way trying to imply the
> > >CODE was my
> > >intellectual property.  I did design the PSIM-1
> > >(and yes, as you all
> > >know Grant did help some, but he did not design
> > >it).  I think I still
> > >deserve credit for the idea and design and would
> > >like something in the
> > >header that states it.  Is that so wrong?  If not,
> > >any suggestions as
> > >to the wording so no one gets upset?
> > >
> > >- Brice
> > >http://www.SynthModules.com
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Be sure to check out the primary Web site at:
> http://www.SynthModules.com
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Re: Digest Number 272

2006-03-01 by synthmodules

That's why I put it back up the way it was.  However, there are times
though during the day here at work when I can tweak the code.  That's
what I was talking about.  

- Brice


--- In SynthModules@yahoogroups.com, ac <analoghell@...> wrote:

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>
> Brice,
> 
> Please forget messing with code and finish building and shipping the
> modules. The code, right now, means nothing to most of us.
> 
> Thank you.
> 
> ac
> 
> On 01/03/06, synthmodules <synthmodules@...> wrote:
> > Bob,
> >
> > I believe this is unnecessary.  I have already re-opened the "Files"
> > section of this group to members so everyone can upload/download code
> > again.  The files there are in their original form without change.
> > They are as the authors uploaded them.  I have also noted that *all*
> > PSIM-1 programs are PUBLIC DOMAIN... so I believe this addresses all
> > the issues you stated.
> >
> > I'm working on cleaning up the code to make sure all the programs are
> > consistant with the header including the PUBLIC DOMAIN statement.  I
> > am looking for input from the community on the wording of the header
> > as I stated in my previous message.
> >
> > I hope this clears up issues regarding availability of code.  At one
> > point I was working on a better way to share the code, but this site
> > is the easiest for everyone to use.
> >
> > Take care,
> >
> > Brice
> > http://www.SynthModules.com
> >
> > --- In SynthModules@yahoogroups.com, "rdrake" <rdrake@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Brice,
> > >
> > > I am in the process of setting up a site where users of your product
> > can discuss and share code.  To avoid some of the current issues
> > regarding ownership and licensing, I propose that the actual authors
> > of the individual programs post their own code, and will leave it to
> > their discretion what licensing restrictions (if any) they wish to
> > include.
> > >
> > > This site is not intended to compete with the resources you have set
> > up, nor is an attack on you personally.  I'm trying to constructivly
> > address a couple of the issues (code ownership, availability &
> > licensing) we've been discussing.  Perhaps by alleviating the burden
> > of "managing" PSIM programming code, you'll have more time to devote
> > to fulfilling your hardware committments.  I hope that you'll choose
> > to contribute your own PSIM code to the site when you have time
> > (licensed as you see fit), but obviously that will be your choice.
> > >
> > > If you have any concerns regarding this project (potential
> > infringement, etc.), please let me know in the next couple of days so
> > that I can address them.  Best of luck with all.
> > >
> > > regards
> > > Bob Drake
> > > rdrake@
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > >Message: 19
> > > >   Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2006 08:09:07 -0000
> > > >   From: "synthmodules"
> > > ><synthmodules@>
> > > >Subject: SynthModules PSIM-1 Programs - PUBLIC
> > > >DOMAIN
> > > >
> > > >Gary makes a good point.  My intentions were good
> > > >and I was trying to
> > > >make it in the best interest of the community
> > > >(although it seems that
> > > >was misunderstood).  Anyway, I am in the process of
> > > >changing the
> > > >headers on all the code to reflect ALL PSIM-1 code
> > > >is PUBLIC DOMAIN.
> > > >
> > > >Please note, the code many of you were seeing that
> > > >was still on the
> > > >Web site (although the link didn't work on purpose,
> > > >some managed to
> > > >find old code sitting around from last year with a
> > > >very early form of
> > > >the GPL header inserted as a test) is NOT the code
> > > >that was supposed
> > > >to be seen or used.  It has been removed so there
> > > >will be no further
> > > >confusion until I can get all the programs fixed
> > > >with the PUBLIC
> > > >DOMAIN header.  Also, my wording in the header may
> > > >have been
> > > >confusing.  I was in no way trying to imply the
> > > >CODE was my
> > > >intellectual property.  I did design the PSIM-1
> > > >(and yes, as you all
> > > >know Grant did help some, but he did not design
> > > >it).  I think I still
> > > >deserve credit for the idea and design and would
> > > >like something in the
> > > >header that states it.  Is that so wrong?  If not,
> > > >any suggestions as
> > > >to the wording so no one gets upset?
> > > >
> > > >- Brice
> > > >http://www.SynthModules.com
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Be sure to check out the primary Web site at:
> > http://www.SynthModules.com
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

Helping "some"

2006-03-01 by Grant Richter

I have to admit, Brice did a nice job of packaging the computer controlled voltage source I 
designed.

When Brice approached me for help, he sent me a drawing of a single space Frac-Rac panel
with a single jack on it. His idea was that it was to be a source of complex gates sequences 
only.

Suffice to say, I convinced him to add the 4 CV inputs, 4 CV outputs, calibrate it to 1 volt
per octave, add the pushbutton start and stop switches with logic OR inputs, add the LED 
displays for the voltage outputs and add the LED displays for start / stop. Then I designed all
of the circuitry to support it and faxed it to Brice so he could lay out the PCB, all for free.

I guess Brice considers that helping "some".

Computer Voltage Source

2006-03-01 by Grant Richter

We need to set up a new site where we can take the discussion of new computer voltage 
sources based on the Basic Atom Pro. They will be backward code compatible with this 
design, but with improved I/O.

When I designed the software architecture, I made sure to keep the I/O routines modular, 
so upgrading analog I/O only requires rewriting the LOADALLDACS and ADCIN 
subroutines. The buffer variables remain the same.

I expect to see a new PC board which will use the Basic Atom Pro 28 pin version. The 
board will include the MIDI interface, DIN interface, 1 volt per octave calibrated INPUTS and 
outputs with voltage multiplexors to expand the number of I/O channels.

All of the drawings Brice did will be replaced by new drawings so they can be published 
publicly. A new faceplate layout will be needed, since the new board will support so many 
new features. The name will be changed to be polite to Brice.

I expect all of this to be in the public domain properly this time. Wiard will not be involved 
in manufacturing or distribution. This will probably be a group effort of the SynthDIY guys.

There is no intention of violating the copyrights Brice holds on the faceplate artwork, 
schematic drawing, PC board layout or the name PSIM. Brice is free to continue to make 
and sell the PSIM under our original public domain agreement.

--- In SynthModules@yahoogroups.com, "rdrake" <rdrake@...> wrote:
>
> Brice,
> 
> I am in the process of setting up a site where users of your product can discuss and 
share code.  To avoid some of the current issues regarding ownership and licensing, I 
propose that the actual authors of the individual programs post their own code, and will 
leave it to their discretion what licensing restrictions (if any) they wish to include.  
> 
> This site is not intended to compete with the resources you have set up, nor is an attack 
on you personally.  I'm trying to constructivly address a couple of the issues (code 
ownership, availability & licensing) we've been discussing.  Perhaps by alleviating the 
burden of "managing" PSIM programming code, you'll have more time to devote to 
fulfilling your hardware committments.  I hope that you'll choose to contribute your own 
PSIM code to the site when you have time (licensed as you see fit), but obviously that will 
be your choice.
> 
> If you have any concerns regarding this project (potential infringement, etc.), please let 
me know in the next couple of days so that I can address them.  Best of luck with all.

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> 
> regards
> Bob Drake
> rdrake@... 
> 
> 
> >
> >Message: 19	    
> >   Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2006 08:09:07 -0000
> >   From: "synthmodules"
> ><synthmodules@...>
> >Subject: SynthModules PSIM-1 Programs - PUBLIC
> >DOMAIN
> >
> >Gary makes a good point.  My intentions were good
> >and I was trying to
> >make it in the best interest of the community
> >(although it seems that
> >was misunderstood).  Anyway, I am in the process of
> >changing the
> >headers on all the code to reflect ALL PSIM-1 code
> >is PUBLIC DOMAIN.  
> >
> >Please note, the code many of you were seeing that
> >was still on the
> >Web site (although the link didn't work on purpose,
> >some managed to
> >find old code sitting around from last year with a
> >very early form of
> >the GPL header inserted as a test) is NOT the code
> >that was supposed
> >to be seen or used.  It has been removed so there
> >will be no further
> >confusion until I can get all the programs fixed
> >with the PUBLIC
> >DOMAIN header.  Also, my wording in the header may
> >have been
> >confusing.  I was in no way trying to imply the
> >CODE was my
> >intellectual property.  I did design the PSIM-1
> >(and yes, as you all
> >know Grant did help some, but he did not design
> >it).  I think I still
> >deserve credit for the idea and design and would
> >like something in the
> >header that states it.  Is that so wrong?  If not,
> >any suggestions as
> >to the wording so no one gets upset?
> >
> >- Brice
> >http://www.SynthModules.com 
> >
> >
>

Re: Computer Voltage Source

2006-03-01 by Grant Richter

I should add the Brice is invited to take any information from this new group and use it to 
make a PSIM 2, should he choose to do.

Being public domain, the information can be used by Brice to make a commercial product, 
just like anyone else.

He can even buy the PC boards from whoever makes them available, stuff them and put 
them behind his own faceplate design.

Now get back to making music...

--- In SynthModules@yahoogroups.com, "Grant Richter" <grichter@...> wrote:
>
> We need to set up a new site where we can take the discussion of new computer voltage 
> sources based on the Basic Atom Pro. They will be backward code compatible with this 
> design, but with improved I/O.
> 
> When I designed the software architecture, I made sure to keep the I/O routines 
modular, 
> so upgrading analog I/O only requires rewriting the LOADALLDACS and ADCIN 
> subroutines. The buffer variables remain the same.
> 
> I expect to see a new PC board which will use the Basic Atom Pro 28 pin version. The 
> board will include the MIDI interface, DIN interface, 1 volt per octave calibrated INPUTS 
and 
> outputs with voltage multiplexors to expand the number of I/O channels.
> 
> All of the drawings Brice did will be replaced by new drawings so they can be published 
> publicly. A new faceplate layout will be needed, since the new board will support so 
many 
> new features. The name will be changed to be polite to Brice.
> 
> I expect all of this to be in the public domain properly this time. Wiard will not be 
involved 
> in manufacturing or distribution. This will probably be a group effort of the SynthDIY 
guys.
> 
> There is no intention of violating the copyrights Brice holds on the faceplate artwork, 
> schematic drawing, PC board layout or the name PSIM. Brice is free to continue to make 
> and sell the PSIM under our original public domain agreement.
> 
> --- In SynthModules@yahoogroups.com, "rdrake" <rdrake@> wrote:
> >
> > Brice,
> > 
> > I am in the process of setting up a site where users of your product can discuss and 
> share code.  To avoid some of the current issues regarding ownership and licensing, I 
> propose that the actual authors of the individual programs post their own code, and will 
> leave it to their discretion what licensing restrictions (if any) they wish to include.  
> > 
> > This site is not intended to compete with the resources you have set up, nor is an 
attack 
> on you personally.  I'm trying to constructivly address a couple of the issues (code 
> ownership, availability & licensing) we've been discussing.  Perhaps by alleviating the 
> burden of "managing" PSIM programming code, you'll have more time to devote to 
> fulfilling your hardware committments.  I hope that you'll choose to contribute your own 
> PSIM code to the site when you have time (licensed as you see fit), but obviously that will 
> be your choice.
> > 
> > If you have any concerns regarding this project (potential infringement, etc.), please 
let

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> me know in the next couple of days so that I can address them.  Best of luck with all.
> > 
> > regards
> > Bob Drake
> > rdrake@ 
> > 
> > 
> > >
> > >Message: 19	    
> > >   Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2006 08:09:07 -0000
> > >   From: "synthmodules"
> > ><synthmodules@>
> > >Subject: SynthModules PSIM-1 Programs - PUBLIC
> > >DOMAIN
> > >
> > >Gary makes a good point.  My intentions were good
> > >and I was trying to
> > >make it in the best interest of the community
> > >(although it seems that
> > >was misunderstood).  Anyway, I am in the process of
> > >changing the
> > >headers on all the code to reflect ALL PSIM-1 code
> > >is PUBLIC DOMAIN.  
> > >
> > >Please note, the code many of you were seeing that
> > >was still on the
> > >Web site (although the link didn't work on purpose,
> > >some managed to
> > >find old code sitting around from last year with a
> > >very early form of
> > >the GPL header inserted as a test) is NOT the code
> > >that was supposed
> > >to be seen or used.  It has been removed so there
> > >will be no further
> > >confusion until I can get all the programs fixed
> > >with the PUBLIC
> > >DOMAIN header.  Also, my wording in the header may
> > >have been
> > >confusing.  I was in no way trying to imply the
> > >CODE was my
> > >intellectual property.  I did design the PSIM-1
> > >(and yes, as you all
> > >know Grant did help some, but he did not design
> > >it).  I think I still
> > >deserve credit for the idea and design and would
> > >like something in the
> > >header that states it.  Is that so wrong?  If not,
> > >any suggestions as
> > >to the wording so no one gets upset?
> > >
> > >- Brice
> > >http://www.SynthModules.com 
> > >
> > >
> >
>

Re: Computer Voltage Source

2006-03-01 by john

> > I expect to see a new PC board which will use the Basic Atom Pro 28 
pin version. ....

Yessiree! (If only the 40-pin version would become a reality... whoa!)


> > This will probably be a group effort of the SynthDIY guys.

Indeed, the funny and talented Harry Bissell has already volunteered to 
do the PCB layout.  :-)

Synth-DIY list info:
    http://www.euronet.nl/~rja/Emusic/Synth-diy/

By the way, this isn't necessarily cutting Brice's legs out from under 
him: He could still sell PSIMs as well as add-ons for the PSIM and 
(presumably) this new programmable module (assuming that it comes to 
fruition).
--
john

Re: [SynthModules] Re: Computer Voltage Source

2006-03-02 by Julian

> I should add the Brice is invited to take any information from this new
group and use it to
> make a PSIM 2, should he choose to do.
>
> Being public domain, the information can be used by Brice to make a
commercial product,
> just like anyone else.
>
> He can even buy the PC boards from whoever makes them available, stuff
them and put
> them behind his own faceplate design.



I would, quite possibly, have been interested in a psim-1, but, yes, ive
been on this list since 2004, and the lack of communication has been quite
astounding..  The chance of me sending money to someone who cant even be
bothered to give weekly progress reports when something is what, 2 years
overdue...

I feel for those directly involved.
[no, im not on the waiting list, but i do have a 'real-life' friend who is]


I would be very interested in a diy project, group buys on the pcbs,
etc.etc.  Im sure a lot of people would be.  There's been a lot of interest
in the psim-1, but, yes, its has been totally abused.

I could help with obtaining CNR engraved front panels at a very reasonable
price for a possible group buy (i get them engraved for my eurorack format
system already) but i have no experience of pcb layout or digital circuit
design.

Im sorry that this sounds like an attack on Brice's business interests.
Probably the answer to that would be to sort it out and fulfil the
outstanding obligations almost instantly.

Julian

ps. i just gotta ask - i really dont want to troll here, but ive been
wondering for some time -

Brice, if you work seemingly so many hours at your day job, you surely earn
some money from it, and not be *that* poor, financially?  (im just going by
the assumption that people who have highly demanding day jobs *normally*
have a wage to compensate?)
How come you couldnt just buy the original components yourself, or even
offer to refund people now?


Again, i have to add that im not personally involved here, so i dont really
feel justified to comment (as i havent done for so long), but im just
puzzled.  ~ Im really not trying to stirr stuff up just for entertainment.

EFM group

2006-03-02 by laxt57@aol.com

Hi to All
 To those who have inquired
 http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/EFM_3500/?yguin=133070754
 It is a new group.
 I am in the process of cloning some of the 3500 modules.
 Jeri


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FS: PSIM - yes a real one

2006-04-24 by Jassen Tawil

For Sale

synthmodules.com

PSIM-1

Includes original CD-ROM, serial cable, etc.

$300 or best offer

See a picture at
http://www.nomorelemons.net/ebay/psim.jpg

You pay shipping & packing.  I'll pay insurance +
tracking.

Well packed shipping from 44096 zip code USA.  Prefer
not to ship outside of USA due to customs.

I bought from Brice at AHMW2004.  (You can see my
small Blacet modular at
http://www.synthmodules.com/ahmw-2004.htm)

Prompt paypal, check, or money order requested.

Please send responses to jassen@nomorelemons.net

I check my email at least twice per day so please be
patient

Thanks!

Jassen


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FS: PSIM - yes a real one

2006-04-24 by RSA

ill buy it!

thanks,
Rob Adams

--- Jassen Tawil <dcjassen@yahoo.com> wrote:

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> For Sale
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> PSIM-1
> 
> Includes original CD-ROM, serial cable, etc.
> 
> $300 or best offer
> 
> See a picture at
> http://www.nomorelemons.net/ebay/psim.jpg
> 
> You pay shipping & packing.  I'll pay insurance +
> tracking.
> 
> Well packed shipping from 44096 zip code USA. 
> Prefer
> not to ship outside of USA due to customs.
> 
> I bought from Brice at AHMW2004.  (You can see my
> small Blacet modular at
> http://www.synthmodules.com/ahmw-2004.htm)
> 
> Prompt paypal, check, or money order requested.
> 
> Please send responses to jassen@nomorelemons.net
> 
> I check my email at least twice per day so please be
> patient
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Jassen
> 
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RE: [SynthModules] FS: PSIM - yes a real one

2006-04-24 by Greg James

Jassen,

I'd like to buy it. I'm local (Willoughby) and can pay you cash
and pick it up.

Greg

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Sent: Sunday, April 23, 2006 10:42 PM
To: SynthModules@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [SynthModules] FS: PSIM - yes a real one

For Sale

synthmodules.com

PSIM-1

Includes original CD-ROM, serial cable, etc.

$300 or best offer

See a picture at
http://www.nomorelemons.net/ebay/psim.jpg

You pay shipping & packing.  I'll pay insurance +
tracking.

Well packed shipping from 44096 zip code USA.  Prefer
not to ship outside of USA due to customs.

I bought from Brice at AHMW2004.  (You can see my
small Blacet modular at
http://www.synthmodules.com/ahmw-2004.htm)

Prompt paypal, check, or money order requested.

Please send responses to jassen@nomorelemons.net

I check my email at least twice per day so please be
patient

Thanks!

Jassen

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