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USB mics

USB mics

2008-09-01 by Bret

--- On Sat, 8/30/08, Philip <kmg5443@...> wrote:
> Pretty much low budget...looking for the best bang for the
> buck.
> 
> Check out the Audio Technica at2020usb or
> 
> Samson C01U
> 
> Both are large diaphragm condensers getting good reviews.

Philip, 

I understand your budget now.  About $150 for mic/pre/da/usb.

That narrows things down quite a bit. 

An important consideration in the mic to pre to d to a converter is the amount of analog gain in the preamp between the mic and the d to a converter.

Without proper analog gain you potentially either overdrive the d to a converter (severe digital clipping and distortion), or underdrive the d to a convertor (low record level, changing gain later digitally to make this up will also raise the noise level).

So, how do these all in one mics manage the analog gain between the mic capsule and the a to d converter?  This, and the sound of the mic capsule are where the rubber meets the road in sound quality for an all in one mic to usb solution.

To cut to the chase, within your $150 budget, to my ears, with logical controls (actual hardware knobs), and bundled with audio recording/editing software I recommend the Samson G Track.

Listen here, compared to similar USB mics as well as to a reference standard AKG c414 eb mic (about $2200, mic only):
http://www.macworld.com/article/134114/2008/07/usbmics.html

To my ear, the Samson G track sounds closest to the AKG reference mic, next is the Marshall MXL 006 usb (which has a 3 level gain switch on the mic).

Here is a singer, also plugged guitar into the mic (stereo analog inputs with level control)
http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/07/16/review-samson-g-track-microphone/

Samson page on this mic:
http://www.samsontech.com/products/productpage.cfm?prodID=1917

There are 3 hardware level knobs on this Samson G track mic - audio input, headphone output (there is a stereo headphone jack for no latency monitoring), and mic gain (this is the real winner, plus the sound of the mic capsule).

All the other mics in this class either use a software driver to control the analog mic gain (you have to load a software driver, so you can open a window in the computer to adjust the mic analog gain via software), or they have a 3 level hardware gain switch.  

The Samson G Track gives you a potentiometer, and a red/green clip led on the mic to help set the analog level.  This implementation makes the most sense to me.  

It could not be simpler than to set the analog clip level at the mic, at the sound source using both the led indicators and the headphone monitoring to insure the level is right, just below or rarely clipping.  This gives you the maximum signal with the least noise (hiss).

You will still have a digital gain control at the pc, but you MUST set the analog gain between the mic capsule and a to d converter properly to get the best signal with the least noise on your recordings.

The Samson G track comes bundled with well known Cakewalk Sonar LE software for recording and editing:
http://www.cakewalk.com/OEM/SONAR_LE.asp

The price seems to be about $149 at dealers I know to reputable, to $129 at dealers I do not know.  Sweetwater has it for $149 , free shipping, with a free shockmount (I recommend using one).
http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/GTrackUSB/

This is a cardioid mic , directional (like most in this category).  

All cardioid mics have 'proximity' effects which means the closer the sound source to the mic, the greater the bass boost.  This can be a very useful feature, using the mic to source distance to balance the bass response to the mid and treble response acoustically.  Singers and broadcast radio announcers often make positive use of the proximity effect.

I have not used this mic, and I think there are limitations to an all in one solution, but within your budget I think this is your best chance for success in recording theremin with an all in one mic with what I know.

The next step up in sound and features would be a combo of this usb mic preamp ($150)
http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/MicPortPro
http://centrance.com/products/mp/MicPortPro_Data_Sheet.pdf

and a good mic like the RODE that I mentioned ($229):
http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/NT1A/
for a total of $379. 

This is the preamp you can hear with the AKG reference 414 mic in the url listed before.
http://www.macworld.com/article/134114/2008/07/usbmics.html

I believe the RODE and the micport combo would rival broadcast quality. 

This combination would give you much greater to signal to noise ratio than an all in one, higher fidelity, more options on mics to use (has 48v phantom built in), up to 24 bits at 96khz sampling (all in one mics are typically 16 bit at 44.1khz sampling).   

You could also get the micport pro usb preamp and a cheaper mic, still allowing flexibility in the future if you wanted to only upgrade the mic.  The micport pro usb pre is a quality device, great specs, great sound.  

I personally do not like the all in one usb mic solution because it does not provide any flexibility in the future.  

In the future when you want to upgrade you throw it all away.

bret

Re: USB mics

2008-09-02 by Philip

Looks like a good one. Thanks for the link. I was not aware of this
one. This week I'll be spending my money on gasoline and
batteries...Hannah may cause us to take an unplanned trip in the RV to
get outta Dodge.

Philip

Re: USB mics

2008-09-02 by Philip

I wonder if the software will work on a Linux box? I'm using Audacity
at the moment which has a Linux version.

PAN

Re: [Aetherphon] Re: USB mics

2008-09-02 by Bret

I don't know about the linux support for the software.  You can use any software you like with the Samson mic, the bundled software is just a bonus.

bret


--- On Mon, 9/1/08, Philip <kmg5443@...> wrote:
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> From: Philip <kmg5443@...>
> Subject: [Aetherphon] Re: USB mics
> To: aetherphon@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Monday, September 1, 2008, 10:34 PM
> I wonder if the software will work on a Linux box? I'm
> using Audacity
> at the moment which has a Linux version.
> 
> PAN
> 
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capacitance drift

2008-09-02 by Christopher Accornero

Hello everybody


It seems my precious etherwave has drifted FAR out of playable range.  Moog gives some instructions to correct this.  I was just wondering if any one else has had this problem and whether or not it easy to fix manually.

Thanks and rock on.


Chris


--- On Tue, 9/2/08, Bret <echoplex@...> wrote:
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> From: Bret <echoplex@...>
> Subject: Re: [Aetherphon] Re: USB mics
> To: aetherphon@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Tuesday, September 2, 2008, 2:37 AM
> I don't know about the linux support for the software. 
> You can use any software you like with the Samson mic, the
> bundled software is just a bonus.
> 
> bret
> 
> 
> --- On Mon, 9/1/08, Philip <kmg5443@...> wrote:
> 
> > From: Philip <kmg5443@...>
> > Subject: [Aetherphon] Re: USB mics
> > To: aetherphon@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Monday, September 1, 2008, 10:34 PM
> > I wonder if the software will work on a Linux box?
> I'm
> > using Audacity
> > at the moment which has a Linux version.
> > 
> > PAN
> > 
> > 
> > ------------------------------------
> > 
> > AETHERPHON, the global thereminist community
> > 
> > To contact the moderator, e-mail porphyrous@...
> > 
> > 
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > 
> > 
> >

Re: [Aetherphon] capacitance drift

2008-09-02 by kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com

Hi Chris,

Is your Moog Theremin a Pro or a Standard?

Quoting Christopher Accornero <chrisacc82@...>:
Show quoted textHide quoted text
> Hello everybody
>
>
> It seems my precious etherwave has drifted FAR out of playable   
> range.  Moog gives some instructions to correct this.  I was just   
> wondering if any one else has had this problem and whether or not it  
>  easy to fix manually.
>
> Thanks and rock on.
>
>
> Chris
>
>
> --- On Tue, 9/2/08, Bret <echoplex@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> From: Bret <echoplex@...>
>> Subject: Re: [Aetherphon] Re: USB mics
>> To: aetherphon@yahoogroups.com
>> Date: Tuesday, September 2, 2008, 2:37 AM
>> I don't know about the linux support for the software.
>> You can use any software you like with the Samson mic, the
>> bundled software is just a bonus.
>>
>> bret
>>
>>
>> --- On Mon, 9/1/08, Philip <kmg5443@...> wrote:
>>
>> > From: Philip <kmg5443@...>
>> > Subject: [Aetherphon] Re: USB mics
>> > To: aetherphon@yahoogroups.com
>> > Date: Monday, September 1, 2008, 10:34 PM
>> > I wonder if the software will work on a Linux box?
>> I'm
>> > using Audacity
>> > at the moment which has a Linux version.
>> >
>> > PAN
>> >
>> >
>> > ------------------------------------
>> >
>> > AETHERPHON, the global thereminist community
>> >
>> > To contact the moderator, e-mail porphyrous@...
>> >
>> >
>> > Yahoo! Groups Links
>> >
>> >
>> >
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> AETHERPHON, the global thereminist community
>
> To contact the moderator, e-mail porphyrous@...
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>

Re: [Aetherphon] capacitance drift

2008-09-02 by Christopher Accornero

Standard.


--- On Tue, 9/2/08, kkissinger@... <kkissinger@...> wrote:
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> From: kkissinger@... <kkissinger@...>
> Subject: Re: [Aetherphon] capacitance drift
> To: aetherphon@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Tuesday, September 2, 2008, 4:01 PM
> Hi Chris,
> 
> Is your Moog Theremin a Pro or a Standard?
> 
> Quoting Christopher Accornero <chrisacc82@...>:
> 
> > Hello everybody
> >
> >
> > It seems my precious etherwave has drifted FAR out of
> playable   
> > range.  Moog gives some instructions to correct this. 
> I was just   
> > wondering if any one else has had this problem and
> whether or not it  
> >  easy to fix manually.
> >
> > Thanks and rock on.
> >
> >
> > Chris
> >
> >
> > --- On Tue, 9/2/08, Bret <echoplex@...>
> wrote:
> >
> >> From: Bret <echoplex@...>
> >> Subject: Re: [Aetherphon] Re: USB mics
> >> To: aetherphon@yahoogroups.com
> >> Date: Tuesday, September 2, 2008, 2:37 AM
> >> I don't know about the linux support for the
> software.
> >> You can use any software you like with the Samson
> mic, the
> >> bundled software is just a bonus.
> >>
> >> bret
> >>
> >>
> >> --- On Mon, 9/1/08, Philip
> <kmg5443@...> wrote:
> >>
> >> > From: Philip <kmg5443@...>
> >> > Subject: [Aetherphon] Re: USB mics
> >> > To: aetherphon@yahoogroups.com
> >> > Date: Monday, September 1, 2008, 10:34 PM
> >> > I wonder if the software will work on a Linux
> box?
> >> I'm
> >> > using Audacity
> >> > at the moment which has a Linux version.
> >> >
> >> > PAN
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > ------------------------------------
> >> >
> >> > AETHERPHON, the global thereminist community
> >> >
> >> > To contact the moderator, e-mail
> porphyrous@...
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > AETHERPHON, the global thereminist community
> >
> > To contact the moderator, e-mail porphyrous@...
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
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Re: [Aetherphon] capacitance drift

2008-09-04 by Christopher Accornero

Hey any word on capacitance drift for a standard Etherwave?

Is it easy or hard to fix on your own?

I truly hope my theremin will be playable again soon

Happy theremining.

-Chris Accornero


--- On Tue, 9/2/08, Christopher Accornero <chrisacc82@...> wrote:
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> From: Christopher Accornero <chrisacc82@...>
> Subject: Re: [Aetherphon] capacitance drift
> To: aetherphon@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Tuesday, September 2, 2008, 5:12 PM
> Standard.
> 
> 
> --- On Tue, 9/2/08, kkissinger@...
> <kkissinger@...> wrote:
> 
> > From: kkissinger@...
> <kkissinger@...>
> > Subject: Re: [Aetherphon] capacitance drift
> > To: aetherphon@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Tuesday, September 2, 2008, 4:01 PM
> > Hi Chris,
> > 
> > Is your Moog Theremin a Pro or a Standard?
> > 
> > Quoting Christopher Accornero
> <chrisacc82@...>:
> > 
> > > Hello everybody
> > >
> > >
> > > It seems my precious etherwave has drifted FAR
> out of
> > playable   
> > > range.  Moog gives some instructions to correct
> this. 
> > I was just   
> > > wondering if any one else has had this problem
> and
> > whether or not it  
> > >  easy to fix manually.
> > >
> > > Thanks and rock on.
> > >
> > >
> > > Chris
> > >
> > >
> > > --- On Tue, 9/2/08, Bret
> <echoplex@...>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >> From: Bret <echoplex@...>
> > >> Subject: Re: [Aetherphon] Re: USB mics
> > >> To: aetherphon@yahoogroups.com
> > >> Date: Tuesday, September 2, 2008, 2:37 AM
> > >> I don't know about the linux support for
> the
> > software.
> > >> You can use any software you like with the
> Samson
> > mic, the
> > >> bundled software is just a bonus.
> > >>
> > >> bret
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> --- On Mon, 9/1/08, Philip
> > <kmg5443@...> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > From: Philip <kmg5443@...>
> > >> > Subject: [Aetherphon] Re: USB mics
> > >> > To: aetherphon@yahoogroups.com
> > >> > Date: Monday, September 1, 2008, 10:34
> PM
> > >> > I wonder if the software will work on a
> Linux
> > box?
> > >> I'm
> > >> > using Audacity
> > >> > at the moment which has a Linux version.
> > >> >
> > >> > PAN
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > ------------------------------------
> > >> >
> > >> > AETHERPHON, the global thereminist
> community
> > >> >
> > >> > To contact the moderator, e-mail
> > porphyrous@...
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------------
> > >
> > > AETHERPHON, the global thereminist community
> > >
> > > To contact the moderator, e-mail
> porphyrous@...
> > >
> > >
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >

Re: [Aetherphon] capacitance drift

2008-09-04 by kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com

Chris,

You have to remove the top cover of the Etherwave and, using a trimmer  
tool, adjust the coil that is closest to the antenna connection.

Since the lid itself affects the tuning, I place the lid upside down  
at a 90-degree angle to the case on the right side of the case while  
adjusting the coil.

You should have recieved a trimmer tool with the theremin.

Hope this helps.

-- Kevin

Quoting Christopher Accornero <chrisacc82@...>:
Show quoted textHide quoted text
> Hey any word on capacitance drift for a standard Etherwave?
>
> Is it easy or hard to fix on your own?
>
> I truly hope my theremin will be playable again soon
>
> Happy theremining.
>
> -Chris Accornero
>
>
> --- On Tue, 9/2/08, Christopher Accornero <chrisacc82@...> wrote:
>
>> From: Christopher Accornero <chrisacc82@...>
>> Subject: Re: [Aetherphon] capacitance drift
>> To: aetherphon@yahoogroups.com
>> Date: Tuesday, September 2, 2008, 5:12 PM
>> Standard.
>>
>>
>> --- On Tue, 9/2/08, kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com
>> <kkissinger@...> wrote:
>>
>> > From: kkissinger@...
>> <kkissinger@...>
>> > Subject: Re: [Aetherphon] capacitance drift
>> > To: aetherphon@yahoogroups.com
>> > Date: Tuesday, September 2, 2008, 4:01 PM
>> > Hi Chris,
>> >
>> > Is your Moog Theremin a Pro or a Standard?
>> >
>> > Quoting Christopher Accornero
>> <chrisacc82@...>:
>> >
>> > > Hello everybody
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > It seems my precious etherwave has drifted FAR
>> out of
>> > playable
>> > > range.  Moog gives some instructions to correct
>> this.
>> > I was just
>> > > wondering if any one else has had this problem
>> and
>> > whether or not it
>> > >  easy to fix manually.
>> > >
>> > > Thanks and rock on.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Chris
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > --- On Tue, 9/2/08, Bret
>> <echoplex@...>
>> > wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> From: Bret <echoplex@yahoo.com>
>> > >> Subject: Re: [Aetherphon] Re: USB mics
>> > >> To: aetherphon@yahoogroups.com
>> > >> Date: Tuesday, September 2, 2008, 2:37 AM
>> > >> I don't know about the linux support for
>> the
>> > software.
>> > >> You can use any software you like with the
>> Samson
>> > mic, the
>> > >> bundled software is just a bonus.
>> > >>
>> > >> bret
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> --- On Mon, 9/1/08, Philip
>> > <kmg5443@...> wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >> > From: Philip <kmg5443@...>
>> > >> > Subject: [Aetherphon] Re: USB mics
>> > >> > To: aetherphon@yahoogroups.com
>> > >> > Date: Monday, September 1, 2008, 10:34
>> PM
>> > >> > I wonder if the software will work on a
>> Linux
>> > box?
>> > >> I'm
>> > >> > using Audacity
>> > >> > at the moment which has a Linux version.
>> > >> >
>> > >> > PAN
>> > >> >
>> > >> >
>> > >> > ------------------------------------
>> > >> >
>> > >> > AETHERPHON, the global thereminist
>> community
>> > >> >
>> > >> > To contact the moderator, e-mail
>> > porphyrous@...
>> > >> >
>> > >> >
>> > >> > Yahoo! Groups Links
>> > >> >
>> > >> >
>> > >> >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > ------------------------------------
>> > >
>> > > AETHERPHON, the global thereminist community
>> > >
>> > > To contact the moderator, e-mail
>> porphyrous@...
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> AETHERPHON, the global thereminist community
>
> To contact the moderator, e-mail porphyrous@...
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>

Re: [Aetherphon] capacitance drift

2008-09-04 by Christopher Accornero

Don't think I received one.  Can I buy a trimmer tool at a hardware store?  Thanks Kevin -- this is the first time this has happened in 7 years  -- I appreciate your help a lot.


CA


--- On Thu, 9/4/08, kkissinger@... <kkissinger@...> wrote:
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> From: kkissinger@... <kkissinger@...>
> Subject: Re: [Aetherphon] capacitance drift
> To: aetherphon@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Thursday, September 4, 2008, 3:58 PM
> Chris,
> 
> You have to remove the top cover of the Etherwave and,
> using a trimmer  
> tool, adjust the coil that is closest to the antenna
> connection.
> 
> Since the lid itself affects the tuning, I place the lid
> upside down  
> at a 90-degree angle to the case on the right side of the
> case while  
> adjusting the coil.
> 
> You should have recieved a trimmer tool with the theremin.
> 
> Hope this helps.
> 
> -- Kevin
> 
> Quoting Christopher Accornero <chrisacc82@...>:
> 
> > Hey any word on capacitance drift for a standard
> Etherwave?
> >
> > Is it easy or hard to fix on your own?
> >
> > I truly hope my theremin will be playable again soon
> >
> > Happy theremining.
> >
> > -Chris Accornero
> >
> >
> > --- On Tue, 9/2/08, Christopher Accornero
> <chrisacc82@...> wrote:
> >
> >> From: Christopher Accornero
> <chrisacc82@...>
> >> Subject: Re: [Aetherphon] capacitance drift
> >> To: aetherphon@yahoogroups.com
> >> Date: Tuesday, September 2, 2008, 5:12 PM
> >> Standard.
> >>
> >>
> >> --- On Tue, 9/2/08, kkissinger@...
> >> <kkissinger@...> wrote:
> >>
> >> > From: kkissinger@...
> >> <kkissinger@...>
> >> > Subject: Re: [Aetherphon] capacitance drift
> >> > To: aetherphon@yahoogroups.com
> >> > Date: Tuesday, September 2, 2008, 4:01 PM
> >> > Hi Chris,
> >> >
> >> > Is your Moog Theremin a Pro or a Standard?
> >> >
> >> > Quoting Christopher Accornero
> >> <chrisacc82@...>:
> >> >
> >> > > Hello everybody
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > It seems my precious etherwave has
> drifted FAR
> >> out of
> >> > playable
> >> > > range.  Moog gives some instructions to
> correct
> >> this.
> >> > I was just
> >> > > wondering if any one else has had this
> problem
> >> and
> >> > whether or not it
> >> > >  easy to fix manually.
> >> > >
> >> > > Thanks and rock on.
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > Chris
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > --- On Tue, 9/2/08, Bret
> >> <echoplex@...>
> >> > wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > >> From: Bret
> <echoplex@...>
> >> > >> Subject: Re: [Aetherphon] Re: USB
> mics
> >> > >> To: aetherphon@yahoogroups.com
> >> > >> Date: Tuesday, September 2, 2008,
> 2:37 AM
> >> > >> I don't know about the linux
> support for
> >> the
> >> > software.
> >> > >> You can use any software you like
> with the
> >> Samson
> >> > mic, the
> >> > >> bundled software is just a bonus.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> bret
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >> --- On Mon, 9/1/08, Philip
> >> > <kmg5443@...> wrote:
> >> > >>
> >> > >> > From: Philip
> <kmg5443@...>
> >> > >> > Subject: [Aetherphon] Re: USB
> mics
> >> > >> > To: aetherphon@yahoogroups.com
> >> > >> > Date: Monday, September 1,
> 2008, 10:34
> >> PM
> >> > >> > I wonder if the software will
> work on a
> >> Linux
> >> > box?
> >> > >> I'm
> >> > >> > using Audacity
> >> > >> > at the moment which has a Linux
> version.
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > PAN
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> >
> ------------------------------------
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > AETHERPHON, the global
> thereminist
> >> community
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > To contact the moderator,
> e-mail
> >> > porphyrous@...
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > ------------------------------------
> >> > >
> >> > > AETHERPHON, the global thereminist
> community
> >> > >
> >> > > To contact the moderator, e-mail
> >> porphyrous@...
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > AETHERPHON, the global thereminist community
> >
> > To contact the moderator, e-mail porphyrous@...
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >

Re: [Aetherphon] capacitance drift

2008-09-04 by kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com

You can probably get one at a Radio Shack or an electronics supply  
store.  You could call Moog Music and get one from them, too.

You can use a small, jeweler's screwdriver however -- if you force the  
coil adjustment too far it is easily damaged.  The plastic tool  
reduces the risk of damage from over-tightening.

-- Kevin

Quoting Christopher Accornero <chrisacc82@yahoo.com>:
Show quoted textHide quoted text
> Don't think I received one.  Can I buy a trimmer tool at a hardware   
> store?  Thanks Kevin -- this is the first time this has happened in   
> 7 years  -- I appreciate your help a lot.
>
>
> CA
>
>
> --- On Thu, 9/4/08, kkissinger@...   
> <kkissinger@...m> wrote:
>
>> From: kkissinger@... <kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Aetherphon] capacitance drift
>> To: aetherphon@yahoogroups.com
>> Date: Thursday, September 4, 2008, 3:58 PM
>> Chris,
>>
>> You have to remove the top cover of the Etherwave and,
>> using a trimmer
>> tool, adjust the coil that is closest to the antenna
>> connection.
>>
>> Since the lid itself affects the tuning, I place the lid
>> upside down
>> at a 90-degree angle to the case on the right side of the
>> case while
>> adjusting the coil.
>>
>> You should have recieved a trimmer tool with the theremin.
>>
>> Hope this helps.
>>
>> -- Kevin
>>
>> Quoting Christopher Accornero <chrisacc82@...>:
>>
>> > Hey any word on capacitance drift for a standard
>> Etherwave?
>> >
>> > Is it easy or hard to fix on your own?
>> >
>> > I truly hope my theremin will be playable again soon
>> >
>> > Happy theremining.
>> >
>> > -Chris Accornero
>> >
>> >
>> > --- On Tue, 9/2/08, Christopher Accornero
>> <chrisacc82@...> wrote:
>> >
>> >> From: Christopher Accornero
>> <chrisacc82@...>
>> >> Subject: Re: [Aetherphon] capacitance drift
>> >> To: aetherphon@yahoogroups.com
>> >> Date: Tuesday, September 2, 2008, 5:12 PM
>> >> Standard.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --- On Tue, 9/2/08, kkissinger@...
>> >> <kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > From: kkissinger@...
>> >> <kkissinger@...>
>> >> > Subject: Re: [Aetherphon] capacitance drift
>> >> > To: aetherphon@yahoogroups.com
>> >> > Date: Tuesday, September 2, 2008, 4:01 PM
>> >> > Hi Chris,
>> >> >
>> >> > Is your Moog Theremin a Pro or a Standard?
>> >> >
>> >> > Quoting Christopher Accornero
>> >> <chrisacc82@...>:
>> >> >
>> >> > > Hello everybody
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > > It seems my precious etherwave has
>> drifted FAR
>> >> out of
>> >> > playable
>> >> > > range.  Moog gives some instructions to
>> correct
>> >> this.
>> >> > I was just
>> >> > > wondering if any one else has had this
>> problem
>> >> and
>> >> > whether or not it
>> >> > >  easy to fix manually.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Thanks and rock on.
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Chris
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > > --- On Tue, 9/2/08, Bret
>> >> <echoplex@...>
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> > >
>> >> > >> From: Bret
>> <echoplex@...>
>> >> > >> Subject: Re: [Aetherphon] Re: USB
>> mics
>> >> > >> To: aetherphon@yahoogroups.com
>> >> > >> Date: Tuesday, September 2, 2008,
>> 2:37 AM
>> >> > >> I don't know about the linux
>> support for
>> >> the
>> >> > software.
>> >> > >> You can use any software you like
>> with the
>> >> Samson
>> >> > mic, the
>> >> > >> bundled software is just a bonus.
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> bret
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> --- On Mon, 9/1/08, Philip
>> >> > <kmg5443@...> wrote:
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> > From: Philip
>> <kmg5443@...>
>> >> > >> > Subject: [Aetherphon] Re: USB
>> mics
>> >> > >> > To: aetherphon@yahoogroups.com
>> >> > >> > Date: Monday, September 1,
>> 2008, 10:34
>> >> PM
>> >> > >> > I wonder if the software will
>> work on a
>> >> Linux
>> >> > box?
>> >> > >> I'm
>> >> > >> > using Audacity
>> >> > >> > at the moment which has a Linux
>> version.
>> >> > >> >
>> >> > >> > PAN
>> >> > >> >
>> >> > >> >
>> >> > >> >
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>> >> community
>> >> > >> >
>> >> > >> > To contact the moderator,
>> e-mail
>> >> > porphyrous@...
>> >> > >> >
>> >> > >> >
>> >> > >> > Yahoo! Groups Links
>> >> > >> >
>> >> > >> >
>> >> > >> >
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
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>> community
>> >> > >
>> >> > > To contact the moderator, e-mail
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>> >> > >
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>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >
>> >
>> >
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>> >
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Re: [Aetherphon] capacitance drift

2008-09-04 by David VanHorn

> You can use a small, jeweler's screwdriver however -- if you force the
> coil adjustment too far it is easily damaged.  The plastic tool
> reduces the risk of damage from over-tightening.

That's not quite right.

The damage comes from the screwdriver being a hard wedge, and the core
being VERY brittle ferrite.
Pushing the screwdriver in hard enough to make it turn the core, puts
enough pressure on it to crack the ferrite if the screwdriver isn't
held exactly vertical.
Radio shack sold a kit of tuning wands, which work nicely. I'm not
sure if they still sell them.

Also, the metal of the screwdriver will affect the tuning.

It seems like sacrilege, but I've been very tempted to drill a small
hole in the upper case, right over the coil, so I can tune without
having to guesstimate the shift of installing the upper case.

Re: [Aetherphon] capacitance drift

2008-09-04 by Christopher Accornero

Thanks Kevin.  Thanks David.

This is very helpful and informative advice from both of you.  Now that the black paint on my theremin is no longer perfect, I feel the temptation myself to drill.

-Chris


--- On Thu, 9/4/08, David VanHorn <microbrix@...> wrote:
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> From: David VanHorn <microbrix@...>
> Subject: Re: [Aetherphon] capacitance drift
> To: aetherphon@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Thursday, September 4, 2008, 4:32 PM
> > You can use a small, jeweler's screwdriver however
> -- if you force the
> > coil adjustment too far it is easily damaged.  The
> plastic tool
> > reduces the risk of damage from over-tightening.
> 
> That's not quite right.
> 
> The damage comes from the screwdriver being a hard wedge,
> and the core
> being VERY brittle ferrite.
> Pushing the screwdriver in hard enough to make it turn the
> core, puts
> enough pressure on it to crack the ferrite if the
> screwdriver isn't
> held exactly vertical.
> Radio shack sold a kit of tuning wands, which work nicely.
> I'm not
> sure if they still sell them.
> 
> Also, the metal of the screwdriver will affect the tuning.
> 
> It seems like sacrilege, but I've been very tempted to
> drill a small
> hole in the upper case, right over the coil, so I can tune
> without
> having to guesstimate the shift of installing the upper
> case.

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