Analogue-sequencer

> I installed v3.90 rev1 (everything ok, no bad data message), but the
> "offset vel rel" doesn't seem to work anymore.

Interesting... will check it out tonight.
I seem to remember having velo offsets working last night though...

> I also tried turning "X" on and off on
> different steps, but it makes no difference.

X only applies to note transposition. I hadn't thought of the velocity
offset by the time it went in.

> One wish on the "offset vel rel" event: It would be nice, if it could
> be applied to only certain steps

Indeed. That's been suggested before, no prizes for guessing by whom...
There's two ways I can think of doing it.
The first would be your suggestion of 'add Dacc to vel', although then you'd
also need to use an aux to offset D acc.
The other option would be a 'masked offset ??? rel'.
This would only add each accumulator to its target value if the offset event
was set on each step. In order to activate a step where you didn't want the
accumulator to be changed, you'd simply apply an offset of 0.

> By the way, I had my first little gig with the P3 at a private party,
> and it was very nice.

MP3 ? ;-)

> You did such a great job with the P3, it is really the one and
> only sequencer I always dreamed of.

Thank you. It's the positive feedback and ideas from users that's kept it
growing far beyond what I came up with myself.

Cheers,
Colin f



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On Wed, 10 Mar 2004 13:49:22 +0000, "Colin f" <colin@colinfraser.com>
wrote:

>X only applies to note transposition. I hadn't thought of the velocity
>offset by the time it went in.

Oops - showing up my ignorance there. 8-)
.. and the fact that my main sequencing synth doesn't respond to
velocity!

>The other option would be a 'masked offset ??? rel'.
>This would only add each accumulator to its target value if the offset event
>was set on each step. In order to activate a step where you didn't want the
>accumulator to be changed, you'd simply apply an offset of 0.

This I like...

Paul

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Now i know this is (hopefully) a real silly question...

My p3 is behaving in a way that suggests that its looping after the first step, not the 16th.

Now ive been looking at the manual for some time now, and i know it must be there, but i cant see it.

Im kind of a bit blind here also, as i dont have any of the leds soldered on (waiting for the case, to set the deapth), but im kinda getting some of it, esp. with the help of midiox. But then i could be setting all kinds of crazy stuff also... ; )

Julian


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Here's a good one you might want to try. It is an example of a pattern
gradually changing - depending on the events used you could "morph" a
pattern quite drastically but let's start with a simple gate example.

Create a six step sequence. Set Aux A to be the event "Mask
Gate,dAcc>n" and set each step aux value as follows:

10 20 30 40 50 60

Then set the Aux D accumulator to increment (rel) on step 6 by a value
of 5 (so each time this is passed, the counter goes up by 5). 

Set the Aux D accumulator limit to around 65 for now in the config
menu. 

Play the sequence. At first it is all masked - because the accumulator
has not reached the level of the lowest value - so you hear nothing.
Once the counter reaches 10, you hear the first step. As we are adding
5 each time, you hear this for two passes before the next step is
added. The sequence is now gradually filled in as it plays. 

What it does once all steps are active depends on your Acc Config
settings.So you can make it start again from silence, or .... well,
give it a try and see.... 

Experiment with different limits for the accumulator. Giving it a
higher limit means the patter will play for longer before resetting.
Shifting the individual values higher will mean a longer period of
silence before the notes start to come in. Try making larger
differences between the steps or smaller accumulator chunks - all
offer fun variations. And, of course, you could put the Gate,dAcc>n
event in Aux D itself and change the values incrementally.. 8-)

Paul
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> Here's a good one you might want to try or .... well,
> ....
> give it a try and see.... 

wow! i actually kind of understand what you're talking about for the 
first time! ;) i've been giving it a try and seeing since the 
accumulator UI was added, with Colin's explanation..
i love the way a lazy erm..musician like me can create an amazing 
developing melody just by using my 'i wonder what this button does'-
instinct :D  it gets pretty bizarre when you try these kind of 
acc./mask tricks with the "set direction & tbase" events though..
P3's an amazingly inspirational little box..

hi there...

are steve's machined hammond cases (the longer, display-on-the-right-side
version) to be used with pcb mount din sockets or with panel mount? the
current US BOM specifies PCB mount sockets...

thanks,
f.

(update: the pots on the US BOM are not correct, but i did find some that
will work with the knobs specified in that doc.)

bleep.
out.

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For anyone in the UK who is interested in gratuitous live improvised
sequencing, why not come see us - Binar - at the National Space Centre
Leicester on April the 17th?

Should be a hoot. Two plus hours of me looking at the P3, turning
knobs and grinning. Fortunately my musical partner plays a mean
keyboard and will provide the icing on my sequencing cake. If you see
what I mean. 

http://www.synthmusicdirect.com/concerts.htm

End of advert <g>

paul
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On Wed, 10 Mar 2004, Paul Nagle wrote:

> Should be a hoot. Two plus hours of me looking at the P3, turning
> knobs and grinning. Fortunately my musical partner plays a mean
> keyboard and will provide the icing on my sequencing cake. If you see
> what I mean.
>
> http://www.synthmusicdirect.com/concerts.htm

*drools*

*that's* what i call a light show... i expect that several people in the
audience will probably never be the same afterwards... altered body
chemistry + insane light show + paul getting insane on the P3 = ultimate
mindfsck...

if you can, try to record the show for those of us separated by too many
miles of water... i'd love to hear the show even though i can't be there.

bleep.
out.

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Julian,

> My p3 is behaving in a way that suggests that its looping after the first
step, not the 16th.

GBAR, bet ya its set to something other than 16!
mine was after I powered it up.

Paul

Paul,

> For anyone in the UK who is interested in gratuitous live improvised
> sequencing, why not come see us - Binar - at the National Space Centre
> Leicester on April the 17th?

awww, why did you drop STDM?

I will if money allows.

Paul

Blip,

> *that's* what i call a light show... i expect that several people in the
> audience will probably never be the same afterwards... altered body
> chemistry + insane light show + paul getting insane on the P3 = ultimate
> mindfsck...

hehe, lights?
Hell yeah, this was Paul in his rig, during the first concert ;- 
http://www.modulus.synth.net/monowave/press.htm
bigger version here ;- http://www.modulus.synth.net/monowave/stdm01_l.gif

The main website for the STDM (and now Binar) is ;-
http://www.spankthedarkmonkey.co.uk

Paul

On Wed, 10 Mar 2004 23:28:23 -0000, "Paul Maddox \(Mail Lists\)"
<Paul.Maddox.Mail-list@Synth.net> wrote:

>awww, why did you drop STDM?

I thought it was a stupid name to be honest. The new one is slightly
better but not the one I would have chosen. Still, it grows on you and
is less embarassing. Like facial hair. Unless you're a chick.

Paul
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On Wed, 10 Mar 2004 15:13:22 -0600 (CST), blip <bleep@waste.org>
wrote:

>if you can, try to record the show for those of us separated by too many
>miles of water... i'd love to hear the show even though i can't be there.

We always do. Our gig there last year will be on sale at this one on
two CDRs. All P3 magic and tinkles... 8)

Paul
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on 11-03-2004 09:49, Paul Nagle at softroom@btinternet.com wrote:

> Our gig there last year will be on sale at this one on
> two CDRs. 

I've heard this statement for some time now...

:-)

Boele

> We always do. Our gig there last year will be on sale at this one on
> two CDRs. All P3 magic and tinkles... 8)

Cool, don't think I'll be able to make it to the show unfortunately 
(perhaps the cosmic smokers gig, time permitting). Will Dave be 
handling the rest of the batch like with the ambient space monkeys 
CDR ? 

Good to see the NSC concerts are continuing, it's much more 
comfortable than Joddrell Bank imho :-)

Cheers,

Tom

On Thu, 11 Mar 2004 10:01:57 -0000, "Tom Coppens"
<tomcoppens@tiscali.be> wrote:

>Cool, don't think I'll be able to make it to the show unfortunately 
>(perhaps the cosmic smokers gig, time permitting). Will Dave be 
>handling the rest of the batch like with the ambient space monkeys 
>CDR ? 

Hope so. He's quite astute so I expect it. Should have the P3 at the
smokers gig too. That should really be fun.

>Good to see the NSC concerts are continuing, it's much more 
>comfortable than Joddrell Bank imho :-)

Yeah, especially when you have a row of bright blue LEDs to show off.
My pals were mesmerised by your set BTW, totally captivated. It was
their first intro to synth music other than my pap and it really went
down a storm.

Paul

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hi there...

i went through all the parts this morning and most things look fine. the
switches are a little small, but maybe this could be compensated for by
some fancy drilling...

i'm at home soldering today, so i don't have access to excell or acrobat,
but for those of you anxious to get started, here are the changes you have
to make:

10k linear pots: 31CA401
10k horizontal trimmer: 594-63M103
battery holder: 122-2520

that should do it... gonna go warm up the weller now... w00t.

bleep.
out.

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> Hope so. He's quite astute so I expect it. Should have the P3 at the
> smokers gig too. That should really be fun.

Sounds good, if I can get it organised I'll try to come over.

> Yeah, especially when you have a row of bright blue LEDs to show 
off.

hehe, the Schaltwerk is indeed eyecandy on stage ;-). I really like 
the fact that you have an overview of different sequencer lines at 
the same time, but it's actually a quite limited sequencer (although 
someone is working on an OS hack, with some support from Doepfer).

The P3's features are awesome in comparison, so gearlust is rearing 
it's head again I think ;-). 

> My pals were mesmerised by your set BTW, totally captivated. It was
> their first intro to synth music other than my pap and it really 
went down a storm.

Thanks for the kind words, but I enjoy your output much more than my 
own stuff !

Cheers,

Tom

On Thu, 11 Mar 2004 21:09:16 -0000, "Tom Coppens"
<tomcoppens@tiscali.be> wrote:

>hehe, the Schaltwerk is indeed eyecandy on stage ;-). I really like 
>the fact that you have an overview of different sequencer lines at 
>the same time, but it's actually a quite limited sequencer (although 
>someone is working on an OS hack, with some support from Doepfer).

I quite enjoyed the Regelwerk despite some flaws. It shares the same
OS but many of the features are not accessible except via some s/w.
Imagine, loading up an editor just to change direction! It was so
close to being excellent so any OS hack would be interesting...

>The P3's features are awesome in comparison, so gearlust is rearing 
>it's head again I think ;-). 

Understandable. For me the ability to improvise a 2+ hour live gig
from scratch is the most liberating thing in years. I could never have
done this with the Polymorph, for example. And with a very slight bit
of work I can get things happening that pootle along all by
themselves, making little changes, all programmed in and controllable.
Makes some of my sequences far more interesting than they used to be.

Paul
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