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2004-05-20 by droolmaster0
Well, I'm sure this is a ridiculously basic question, but I'm quite ignorant about stuff like this.. I have a ready made p3 arriving soon, and I need to pick up a U.S. power supply for it, described by Colin as 9v DC @ 500mA, on a 2.5mm barrel connector. Is this a common enough item that I should be able to pick one up at a Radio Shack, or will I have to do a little more digging? Thanks, Gene
2004-05-20 by droolmaster0
--- In analogue-sequencer@yahoogroups.com, blip <bleep@w...> wrote: > On Thu, 20 May 2004, droolmaster0 wrote: > > > Well, I'm sure this is a ridiculously basic question, but I'm quite > > ignorant about stuff like this.. > > > > I have a ready made p3 arriving soon, and I need to pick up a U.S. > > power supply for it, described by Colin as 9v DC @ 500mA, on a 2.5mm > > barrel connector. > > > > Is this a common enough item that I should be able to pick one up at > > a Radio Shack, or will I have to do a little more digging? > > hey, aren't you on the ion list too? man i can't wait to get my ion hooked > up to the P3! anyway, here's a mouser part # for the PSU i'm using... it's > nice and tiny! > > 418-TR1509-12 (except they seem to be out of stock at teh moment) > > 418-TR1512-12 (should work too, just higher voltage: 13.5V) > > the P3 should easily be able to regulate that down to 9V. > > (back to waiting for information on my case...) > > bleep. > out. Explain 'mouser'. LOL! Somehow I think I should know what that is. Again - forgive my rudimentary knowledge of electronics - it is ok to get a higher voltage than specified? Yeah - I'm on the Ion list. I think it's a very nice synth, indeed. I've been buying lots of stuff of late (my studio got decimated by long unemployment), and haven't been able to learn it as deeply as I'd like - but I have had no problems with it at all, and it sounds great. And yeah - can't wait to unleash the P3 on it.
2004-05-20 by droolmaster0
I'm not sure what you mean by polarity in this context. (don't laugh, at least not at loud) --- In analogue-sequencer@yahoogroups.com, Dave Magnuson <resfreq@h...> wrote: > This is a very common power supply... there should be no problem getting > one at the Shack. Just make sure you get the correct polarity. > > Dave > > > > At 06:51 PM 5/20/04 -0000, you wrote: > > > >Well, I'm sure this is a ridiculously basic question, but I'm quite > >ignorant about stuff like this.. > > > >I have a ready made p3 arriving soon, and I need to pick up a U.S. > >power supply for it, described by Colin as 9v DC @ 500mA, on a 2.5mm > >barrel connector. > > > >Is this a common enough item that I should be able to pick one up at
> >a Radio Shack, or will I have to do a little more digging? > > > >Thanks, > >Gene > > > > Resonant Frequency: > resfreq@h... > http://www.hoohahrecords.com/resfreq/index.html > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2004-05-20 by droolmaster0
--- In analogue-sequencer@yahoogroups.com, blip <bleep@w...> wrote: > > > Explain 'mouser'. LOL! Somehow I think I should know what that is. > > > > Again - forgive my rudimentary knowledge of electronics - it is ok to > > get a higher voltage than specified? > > ahhh... i should've read "ready made" in your previous post... mouser is > probably teh largest electronics distrubutor in the US. i assumed you'd > know who they were because you'd be buying an assload of stuff from > them. :) > > so my advice changes as a result... just go to radioshack and get the big > ugly white one (9V/800mA). as a sidenote, the p3 is okay up to i think 15V > (right colin?). it's got some fancy circuitry in it to regulate the > voltage to 9V, which is what all the goodies in the box need to work. So, I can exceed the 500 mA also? (I really don't have a clue what is permitted as a rule, and what isn't) > > > I'd like - but I have had no problems with it at all, and it sounds > > great. And yeah - can't wait to unleash the P3 on it. > > can i have your life? :) my ions main outs are going dead, and the lfo > rate knob has never worked... i don't mind that so much, but the > outputs... that's a problem. > > bleep. > out. > Seems like Alesis is pretty good about fixing/replacing units, though. Or have you been through all that?
> --- > http://leichenfeld.iuma.com > http://thirdwavecollective.com
2004-05-20 by droolmaster0
--- In analogue-sequencer@yahoogroups.com, blip <bleep@w...> wrote: > > > Explain 'mouser'. LOL! Somehow I think I should know what that is. > > > > Again - forgive my rudimentary knowledge of electronics - it is ok to > > get a higher voltage than specified? > > ahhh... i should've read "ready made" in your previous post... mouser is > probably teh largest electronics distrubutor in the US. i assumed you'd > know who they were because you'd be buying an assload of stuff from > them. :) > > so my advice changes as a result... just go to radioshack and get the big > ugly white one (9V/800mA). as a sidenote, the p3 is okay up to i think 15V > (right colin?). it's got some fancy circuitry in it to regulate the > voltage to 9V, which is what all the goodies in the box need to work. So, I can exceed the 500 mA also? (I really don't have a clue what is permitted as a rule, and what isn't) > > > I'd like - but I have had no problems with it at all, and it sounds > > great. And yeah - can't wait to unleash the P3 on it. > > can i have your life? :) my ions main outs are going dead, and the lfo > rate knob has never worked... i don't mind that so much, but the > outputs... that's a problem. > > bleep. > out. > Seems like Alesis is pretty good about fixing/replacing units, though. Or have you been through all that?
> --- > http://leichenfeld.iuma.com > http://thirdwavecollective.com
2004-05-20 by droolmaster0
--- In analogue-sequencer@yahoogroups.com, blip <bleep@w...> wrote: > > oh yeah... tell the folks at the store you need the adapter to be "tip > positive." they'll make sure the PSU has the right end on it. it needs to > be 2.5mm... i think it's ring color is... white. or black, one or the > other. it's pretty fat looking (as opposed to phat, which is what an ion > plus a p3 would be). > > bleep. > out. > > --- > http://leichenfeld.iuma.com > http://thirdwavecollective.com Ok - thanks for all the info. I'd hate to finally plug the thing in after all this anticipation and have it blow up.
2004-05-20 by Dave Magnuson
This is a very common power supply... there should be no problem getting one at the Shack. Just make sure you get the correct polarity. Dave At 06:51 PM 5/20/04 -0000, you wrote: > >Well, I'm sure this is a ridiculously basic question, but I'm quite >ignorant about stuff like this.. > >I have a ready made p3 arriving soon, and I need to pick up a U.S. >power supply for it, described by Colin as 9v DC @ 500mA, on a 2.5mm >barrel connector. > >Is this a common enough item that I should be able to pick one up at >a Radio Shack, or will I have to do a little more digging? > >Thanks, >Gene > Resonant Frequency: resfreq@hoohahrecords.com http://www.hoohahrecords.com/resfreq/index.html [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2004-05-20 by droolmaster0
--- In analogue-sequencer@yahoogroups.com, blip <bleep@w...> wrote: > On Thu, 20 May 2004, droolmaster0 wrote: > > > So, I can exceed the 500 mA also? (I really don't have a clue what is > > permitted as a rule, and what isn't) > > yup. the p3 will take what current it needs (typically 200mA). it's always > good to have at least twice as much current available as you typically > need, hence the recommendation of 500mA. > > > Seems like Alesis is pretty good about fixing/replacing units, > > though. Or have you been through all that? > > no... partly because i bought it from a going out of biz dealer, so i > don't know my warranty status, and partly because it's my only keyboard... > all my other gear consists of boxes with knobs, mainly. > > bleep. > out. > certainly empathize with the 'only keyboard' part of that. But Alesis seems to be trying to bend over backwards to be flexible as far as fixing units under warranty. You might try to argue them into making it a warranty repair. They told me that if my Ion (fails diagnostics, but does not exhibit the infamous self edit problem) EVER exhibits this problem they would fix it under warranty. This came from the manager of tech support. I think that they are sensitive to problems with early units...and mine isn't even an early one.
> --- > http://leichenfeld.iuma.com > http://thirdwavecollective.com
2004-05-20 by blip
On Thu, 20 May 2004, droolmaster0 wrote: > Well, I'm sure this is a ridiculously basic question, but I'm quite > ignorant about stuff like this.. > > I have a ready made p3 arriving soon, and I need to pick up a U.S. > power supply for it, described by Colin as 9v DC @ 500mA, on a 2.5mm > barrel connector. > > Is this a common enough item that I should be able to pick one up at > a Radio Shack, or will I have to do a little more digging? hey, aren't you on the ion list too? man i can't wait to get my ion hooked up to the P3! anyway, here's a mouser part # for the PSU i'm using... it's nice and tiny! 418-TR1509-12 (except they seem to be out of stock at teh moment) 418-TR1512-12 (should work too, just higher voltage: 13.5V) the P3 should easily be able to regulate that down to 9V. (back to waiting for information on my case...) bleep. out. --- http://leichenfeld.iuma.com http://thirdwavecollective.com
2004-05-20 by blip
On Thu, 20 May 2004, Dave Magnuson wrote: > This is a very common power supply... there should be no problem getting > one at the Shack. Just make sure you get the correct polarity. yeah, except it's HUGE. in my earlier woes, i blew one of these puppies out... they weigh like 4lbs and cost $20, which is about $7 more than the ones i just mentioned. bleep. out. --- http://leichenfeld.iuma.com http://thirdwavecollective.com
2004-05-20 by blip
> Explain 'mouser'. LOL! Somehow I think I should know what that is. > > Again - forgive my rudimentary knowledge of electronics - it is ok to > get a higher voltage than specified? ahhh... i should've read "ready made" in your previous post... mouser is probably teh largest electronics distrubutor in the US. i assumed you'd know who they were because you'd be buying an assload of stuff from them. :) so my advice changes as a result... just go to radioshack and get the big ugly white one (9V/800mA). as a sidenote, the p3 is okay up to i think 15V (right colin?). it's got some fancy circuitry in it to regulate the voltage to 9V, which is what all the goodies in the box need to work. > I'd like - but I have had no problems with it at all, and it sounds > great. And yeah - can't wait to unleash the P3 on it. can i have your life? :) my ions main outs are going dead, and the lfo rate knob has never worked... i don't mind that so much, but the outputs... that's a problem. bleep. out. --- http://leichenfeld.iuma.com http://thirdwavecollective.com
2004-05-20 by blip
oh yeah... tell the folks at the store you need the adapter to be "tip positive." they'll make sure the PSU has the right end on it. it needs to be 2.5mm... i think it's ring color is... white. or black, one or the other. it's pretty fat looking (as opposed to phat, which is what an ion plus a p3 would be). bleep. out. --- http://leichenfeld.iuma.com http://thirdwavecollective.com
2004-05-20 by Colin f
> (back to waiting for information on my case...) Sorry for the lack of news on the cases... Steve has them at the moment. I'm hoping he gets the time to machine the rest of them soon, but please remember we have day jobs and lives. Cheers, Colin f
2004-05-20 by blip
On Thu, 20 May 2004, droolmaster0 wrote: > So, I can exceed the 500 mA also? (I really don't have a clue what is > permitted as a rule, and what isn't) yup. the p3 will take what current it needs (typically 200mA). it's always good to have at least twice as much current available as you typically need, hence the recommendation of 500mA. > Seems like Alesis is pretty good about fixing/replacing units, > though. Or have you been through all that? no... partly because i bought it from a going out of biz dealer, so i don't know my warranty status, and partly because it's my only keyboard... all my other gear consists of boxes with knobs, mainly. bleep. out. --- http://leichenfeld.iuma.com http://thirdwavecollective.com
2004-05-20 by Colin f
> Ok - thanks for all the info. I'd hate to finally plug the thing in > after all this anticipation and have it blow up. Don't worry about that - you can't damage it with the wrong polarity as there's a diode there to block it. It simply wouldn't power up. P3 draws about 250mA, so I recommend a 500mA supply to allow for a generous margin of error. The PSU cant force more power in there than it wants. There's an electronic fuse in the supply too. Voltage wise, P3 regulates the incoming voltage to 5v internally. It needs the input voltage to be above 7.5v, but not too far above as the regulator converts excess voltage to heat. It runs fine with a 15v supply, but I recommend 9v since that's a widely available voltage used for guitar effects. If someone in the US can recommend a cheap, good quality supply that's known to work and has the right connector, I'll make that the 'officially approved US supply'. Cheers, Colin f
2004-05-20 by blip
On Thu, 20 May 2004, Colin f wrote: > Steve has them at the moment. I'm hoping he gets the time to machine the > rest of them soon, but please remember we have day jobs and lives. what? day jobs? lives? preposterous... :) i just want to make sure the US case comes through alright... i had a discussion w/steve awhile ago regarding button measurements and such, but haven't heard back since. i'll bug him next week sometime. i should get off my ass and order/install that new diode anyway... bleep. out. --- http://leichenfeld.iuma.com http://thirdwavecollective.com
2004-05-20 by blip
On Thu, 20 May 2004, Colin f wrote: > If someone in the US can recommend a cheap, good quality supply that's > known to work and has the right connector, I'll make that the > 'officially approved US supply'. the one i posted seems to work fine, from what i can tell... i'll get everything put back together soon and update you. it's definitely the right size plug, at least. i'll add it to the US BOM when i'm sure it works too... bleep. out. --- http://leichenfeld.iuma.com http://thirdwavecollective.com