Analogue-sequencer

right. 
installed midi-ox (couldn't find the old simple midi file player I thought I 
had, & it transpires that my yamaha data filer doesn't like sysex files no 
matter what I do to the extension.... funny, I thought I remembered updating my 
supernova with it.....) & I have tried both 3.971 & the midi-through modified 
version of same.

well, the latter (3.97dunc) is exactly what I wanted, so I'm happy. my 
controller keyboard sends pitch-wheel, mod-wheel & everything else to whatever 
channel it's set to (including the live-record channel if I've selected it), while 
the keyboard (note on/off) only goes to the live-record channel.
when not in live-record, midi-through behaves as before.

the 3.971 version behaves differently.... while the pitch wheel still found 
it's way through to the target channel (as above), the volume & mod wheel are 
not passed at all. ever. was this just me or has anyone else found this in 
3.971?
anyway, whatever it was, it's fixed in 3.97dunc.

I love the new note-repeat behaviour; the trills are spot on now, & not 
affected at all by note length. they scale with timebase, as does delay, with the 
effect that all timing adjustments are rendered musically. I think I'll stick 
with this version, colin! & if I ever need to do some none-musical timing 
shifts or stutter effects, I can use velocity control over delay & linked 
patches....

anyone want to buy a schaltwerk? :-)

back to the shortbread now.

duncan.

On Wed, 8 Sep 2004 16:53:11 EDT, ferrograph@aol.com wrote:

>anyone want to buy a schaltwerk? :-)

Nope... 8-)
But I *was* wondering whether three P3s might be justifiable... in
some way I can't yet articulate...

>back to the shortbread now.

Midweek eh? Respect! 

Paul (fresh back from Amsterdam. No, not fresh exactly....)
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Paul Nagle / Soft Room Music
Email: paul@softroom.co.uk www.softroom.co.uk
                           www.BogusFocus.com

> my 
> controller keyboard sends pitch-wheel, mod-wheel & everything 
> else to whatever 
> channel it's set to (including the live-record channel if 
> I've selected it), while 
> the keyboard (note on/off) only goes to the live-record channel.
> when not in live-record, midi-through behaves as before.

The functionality Duncan mentioned here is a recent addition and something
I'm still tweaking.
The logic behind it is that if you have controller keyboard that has
assignable knobs on it, you may have them assigned to control a number of
different synths on different midi channels, so you don't want controllers
being re-directed to the midi channel of a track in record mode.
The build Duncan has only re-directed note messages in record mode.
I've since grouped notes, bend, aftertouch and program change together -
they will be redirected to the midi channel of a recording track, but
controllers will pass thru as per the normal midi thru settings.
Not sure if that's more sensible than just re-directing notes - it seems
like they should be grouped so you don't unexpectedly apply afertouch or
bend to a different synth than the one you are recording for...
Comments ?

Cheers,
Colin f

On Wed, 8 Sep 2004 22:17:46 +0100, "Colin f" <colin@colinfraser.com>
wrote:

>The build Duncan has only re-directed note messages in record mode.
>I've since grouped notes, bend, aftertouch and program change together -
>they will be redirected to the midi channel of a recording track, but
>controllers will pass thru as per the normal midi thru settings.
>Not sure if that's more sensible than just re-directing notes - it seems
>like they should be grouped so you don't unexpectedly apply afertouch or
>bend to a different synth than the one you are recording for...
>Comments ?

Mmmm, guess so. 

However, I sometimes use the direct Track record function as a MIDI
processor. I love the fact I don't have to actually record because
there's an extra softkey to confirm you want to do this. I can then
play connected instruments thru manually using the current FTS. 

This gives me the sort of input processing stuff I used to do on
Cubase and its input transformer. I suppose in this case I'd probably
like to be able to send controllers - at least the basic stuff like
PB, AT, mod wheel, sustain... I'd never want to send Program changes
via this method though. Not sure though, will need to think more...

Paul
 
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Paul Nagle / Soft Room Music
Email: paul@softroom.co.uk www.softroom.co.uk
                           www.BogusFocus.com

> However, I sometimes use the direct Track record function as a MIDI
> processor. I love the fact I don't have to actually record because
> there's an extra softkey to confirm you want to do this. I can then
> play connected instruments thru manually using the current FTS. 
> 
> This gives me the sort of input processing stuff I used to do on
> Cubase and its input transformer. I suppose in this case I'd probably
> like to be able to send controllers - at least the basic stuff like
> PB, AT, mod wheel, sustain... I'd never want to send Program changes
> via this method though. Not sure though, will need to think more...

Hmm, I can see that would be useful. Hadn't thought of that.
I feel a user config option coming on...

Cheers,
Colin f