Analogue-sequencer

hi,

First -- Midi Clock issue:

Not a P3 issue, but wondering if I can find a workaround...

I use Logic 7 -- since being acquired by Apple, the Midi specs for  
sequencing external Midi gear are rapidly going downhill. The latest  
problem -- Logic will only send a Midi Clock 'start' message at the  
beginning of a song. If you start Logic from  any other point in the  
song, it will only send a Midi Clock 'continue' message, affecting  
any hardware unit expecting a 'start' message in order to reset to  
the beginning.

Is there any way that the P3 can read a 'continue' message as a  
'start' message? (The Kenton Pro-2000, for example, allows you to  
specify "Midi Clock 'Continue' = 'Start'"). OR, is there any other  
Midi message that can be sent to the P3 to make it reset to the  
beginning?

My current workaround is manually hitting 'Sync' on the P3 before i  
start the sequence. (Thank god for that!)

Second -- Sync Out question:

Does it always send out Midi Clock and DIN Sync? I tried Sync Out to  
the DIN Sync in on my TR-808 and it doesn't work. Also tried the Sync  
o\Out to the Midi-in on my x0xb0x, and it syncs, but there is some  
weird stuff going on too (when I stop the P3, the x0x seems to  
trigger randomly).

Any help appreciated,

thx, Jason





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For the first question you have to check "start on count".

regards


--- In analogue-sequencer@yahoogroups.com, jason/solvent/suction <solvent@...> 
wrote:

>
> hi,
> 
> First -- Midi Clock issue:
> 
> Not a P3 issue, but wondering if I can find a workaround...
> 
> I use Logic 7 -- since being acquired by Apple, the Midi specs for  
> sequencing external Midi gear are rapidly going downhill. The latest  
> problem -- Logic will only send a Midi Clock 'start' message at the  
> beginning of a song. If you start Logic from  any other point in the  
> song, it will only send a Midi Clock 'continue' message, affecting  
> any hardware unit expecting a 'start' message in order to reset to  
> the beginning.
> 
> Is there any way that the P3 can read a 'continue' message as a  
> 'start' message? (The Kenton Pro-2000, for example, allows you to  
> specify "Midi Clock 'Continue' = 'Start'"). OR, is there any other  
> Midi message that can be sent to the P3 to make it reset to the  
> beginning?
> 
> My current workaround is manually hitting 'Sync' on the P3 before i  
> start the sequence. (Thank god for that!)
> 
> Second -- Sync Out question:
> 
> Does it always send out Midi Clock and DIN Sync? I tried Sync Out to  
> the DIN Sync in on my TR-808 and it doesn't work. Also tried the Sync  
> o\Out to the Midi-in on my x0xb0x, and it syncs, but there is some  
> weird stuff going on too (when I stop the P3, the x0x seems to  
> trigger randomly).
> 
> Any help appreciated,
> 
> thx, Jason
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

> Is there any way that the P3 can read a 'continue' message as a  
> 'start' message? 

There is a user config option called 'start on cont' that enables this.

> Does it always send out Midi Clock and DIN Sync?

Early units were hard-wired for either MIDI clock or DIN sync, but not both.

> I tried Sync Out to  
> the DIN Sync in on my TR-808 and it doesn't work. Also tried 
> the Sync  
> o\Out to the Midi-in on my x0xb0x, and it syncs, but there is some  
> weird stuff going on too (when I stop the P3, the x0x seems to  
> trigger randomly).

Sounds like your unit is wired for MIDI clock.
To pin down whether the problem is the P3 or the x0xbox, you'd need to run
the MIDI connection through something like MIDI-Ox on a PC.
That will let you see what data is actually coming out of the port.
There should only be MIDI start, stop or clock bytes. Anything spurious may
indicate a problem PIC.

Best regards,
Colin Fraser
Sequentix Music Systems Ltd
http://www.sequentix.com