Analogue-sequencer

Thanks for the advice with syncing...which basically seems to boil
down to "dont buy cubase" and if you do then cubase has to act as the
master. I must admit I'm regretting Cubase now...its a total nightmare
to setup (unless you have the mentality of a german programmer!). As
I've just paid for the SX4 upgrade I'm stuck with it for a while
though I have been getting lots of "nudges" towards ableton. I really
should give it a good look.

On the cubase side has anyone worked out how to use the midi channels
seperately i.e. Sequentix Midi O/P 1 channel 1 to synth 1, channel 2
to synth 2 etc. I feel like I'm being really dumb here but then Cubase
seems to love making simple things difficult. All help gratefully
received before I take an axe to cubase!

i think the reason that cubase no longer slaves to external clocks is that it messes up their sample accurate recording or something like that.  
   
  the way i use the p3 with cubase is as follows: i send the midi out from cubase through my soundcard and then to the P3 then to my synths. you have to set the p3 to midi thru (i can't remember the actual setting but if you check the manual, you want the p3 to send all notes through it, no filter). setting it up this way allows me to run 8 midi instruments at a time with the p3's 8 channels, each on separate midi channels, all synced to cubase's midi clock. Because the p3 has 4 midi outs, i can rout the other midi tracks from cubase through the P3's left over midi outs to other instruments.
   
  i usually just record audio from the instruments i've sequenced with the p3, but you can take one of the p3 midi outs into your soundcard's midi in and record the midi information. i've only been able to do this one track at a time. it would be great to record all 8 into cubase at a time on 8 separate midi channels, but i haven't figured out how to do this. recording one track at a time i find to be no great hardship though.
   
  i actually find cubase pretty easy to use with the p3. i'm not sure what syncing ableton to the p3 gets you above and beyond what i've described here. am i missing something?

sean_zoega <sean@zoega.co.uk> wrote:
          Thanks for the advice with syncing...which basically seems to boil
down to "dont buy cubase" and if you do then cubase has to act as the
master. I must admit I'm regretting Cubase now...its a total nightmare
to setup (unless you have the mentality of a german programmer!). As
I've just paid for the SX4 upgrade I'm stuck with it for a while
though I have been getting lots of "nudges" towards ableton. I really
should give it a good look.

On the cubase side has anyone worked out how to use the midi channels
seperately i.e. Sequentix Midi O/P 1 channel 1 to synth 1, channel 2
to synth 2 etc. I feel like I'm being really dumb here but then Cubase
seems to love making simple things difficult. All help gratefully
received before I take an axe to cubase!



                           

       

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>>i'm not sure what syncing ableton to the p3 gets you above and beyond what i've described here. am i missing something?

most people dont mind staring into the computer screen and navigating with the low-bandwidth x-y pointer device, but there seems to 
be a few of us who would like the power a computer DAW gives but without having to subject ourselves to the interface every time we 
want to hit start or stop : )

i belive cubase vst was the last incarnation that would sync to midi clock.

and ableton has that damn irritating thing where it goes back to bar1 beat1 evrey time you restart from an external device.... 
grrr....

Me?  Ive given up and bought a hardware DAW (which, yeah, still has to be the master, but at least i dont have to use the mouse all 
the time!)

Julian




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yeah - there are per track input transformers that make it easy. There  
are even presets built in for channel filtering.

As far as routing multiple sequencers from various midi ports out to  
different synths, Cubase makes it rather easy, actually. Logic, for  
instance, makes it very difficult, which is one reason why I've  
switched over to Cubase 4.
> ...
>
> On the cubase side has anyone worked out how to use the midi channels
> seperately i.e. Sequentix Midi O/P 1 channel 1 to synth 1, channel 2
> to synth 2 etc. I feel like I'm being really dumb here but then Cubase
> seems to love making simple things difficult. All help gratefully
> received before I take an axe to cubase!
>
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Thanks for the help and after a day of playing about with Cubase I might 
have found a way to get Cubase to listen to each P3 MIDI output on 
seperate tracks
If you set up the MIDI port as Sequentix and then in the track you'll 
see a "square wave" with an arrow on it, click this and set it to local. 
Then the Cubase "Input Transformer" will pop-up which is a lesson in 
making something simple complicated. Anyway go to Presets and select 
"Channel Filtering" and then the channel that you want to use on this 
track. Thats it, repeat on the other tracks and you can your P3 
controlling eight different instruments through Cubase. I'm using Cubase 
4 so if this doesnt work on earlier versions...sorry
Cheers
Sean

Zahir Manek wrote:
>
> i think the reason that cubase no longer slaves to external clocks is 
> that it messes up their sample accurate recording or something like that.
>
> the way i use the p3 with cubase is as follows: i send the midi out 
> from cubase through my soundcard and then to the P3 then to my synths. 
> you have to set the p3 to midi thru (i can't remember the actual 
> setting but if you check the manual, you want the p3 to send all notes 
> through it, no filter). setting it up this way allows me to run 8 midi 
> instruments at a time with the p3's 8 channels, each on separate midi 
> channels, all synced to cubase's midi clock. Because the p3 has 4 midi 
> outs, i can rout the other midi tracks from cubase through the P3's 
> left over midi outs to other instruments.
>
> i usually just record audio from the instruments i've sequenced with 
> the p3, but you can take one of the p3 midi outs into your soundcard's 
> midi in and record the midi information. i've only been able to do 
> this one track at a time. it would be great to record all 8 into 
> cubase at a time on 8 separate midi channels, but i haven't figured 
> out how to do this. recording one track at a time i find to be no 
> great hardship though.
>
> i actually find cubase pretty easy to use with the p3. i'm not sure 
> what syncing ableton to the p3 gets you above and beyond what i've 
> described here. am i missing something?
>
> sean_zoega <sean@zoega.co.uk <mailto:sean%40zoega.co.uk>> wrote:
> Thanks for the advice with syncing...which basically seems to boil
> down to "dont buy cubase" and if you do then cubase has to act as the
> master. I must admit I'm regretting Cubase now...its a total nightmare
> to setup (unless you have the mentality of a german programmer!). As
> I've just paid for the SX4 upgrade I'm stuck with it for a while
> though I have been getting lots of "nudges" towards ableton. I really
> should give it a good look.
>
> On the cubase side has anyone worked out how to use the midi channels
> seperately i.e. Sequentix Midi O/P 1 channel 1 to synth 1, channel 2
> to synth 2 etc. I feel like I'm being really dumb here but then Cubase
> seems to love making simple things difficult. All help gratefully
> received before I take an axe to cubase!
>
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>
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Gene, thanks for your help...I managed to find it earlier after a 
certain amount of swearing but many thanks all the same.
Cheers
sean



Gene Schwartz wrote:
>
> yeah - there are per track input transformers that make it easy. There
> are even presets built in for channel filtering.
>
> As far as routing multiple sequencers from various midi ports out to
> different synths, Cubase makes it rather easy, actually. Logic, for
> instance, makes it very difficult, which is one reason why I've
> switched over to Cubase 4.
> > ...
> >
> > On the cubase side has anyone worked out how to use the midi channels
> > seperately i.e. Sequentix Midi O/P 1 channel 1 to synth 1, channel 2
> > to synth 2 etc. I feel like I'm being really dumb here but then Cubase
> > seems to love making simple things difficult. All help gratefully
> > received before I take an axe to cubase!
> >
> >
>
> >
>
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>
>  



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awesome, thanks. i'll try it tonight.

Sean Zoega <sean@zoega.co.uk> wrote:          Thanks for the help and after a day of playing about with Cubase I might 
have found a way to get Cubase to listen to each P3 MIDI output on 
seperate tracks
If you set up the MIDI port as Sequentix and then in the track you'll 
see a "square wave" with an arrow on it, click this and set it to local. 
Then the Cubase "Input Transformer" will pop-up which is a lesson in 
making something simple complicated. Anyway go to Presets and select 
"Channel Filtering" and then the channel that you want to use on this 
track. Thats it, repeat on the other tracks and you can your P3 
controlling eight different instruments through Cubase. I'm using Cubase 
4 so if this doesnt work on earlier versions...sorry
Cheers
Sean

Zahir Manek wrote:
>
> i think the reason that cubase no longer slaves to external clocks is 
> that it messes up their sample accurate recording or something like that.
>
> the way i use the p3 with cubase is as follows: i send the midi out 
> from cubase through my soundcard and then to the P3 then to my synths. 
> you have to set the p3 to midi thru (i can't remember the actual 
> setting but if you check the manual, you want the p3 to send all notes 
> through it, no filter). setting it up this way allows me to run 8 midi 
> instruments at a time with the p3's 8 channels, each on separate midi 
> channels, all synced to cubase's midi clock. Because the p3 has 4 midi 
> outs, i can rout the other midi tracks from cubase through the P3's 
> left over midi outs to other instruments.
>
> i usually just record audio from the instruments i've sequenced with 
> the p3, but you can take one of the p3 midi outs into your soundcard's 
> midi in and record the midi information. i've only been able to do 
> this one track at a time. it would be great to record all 8 into 
> cubase at a time on 8 separate midi channels, but i haven't figured 
> out how to do this. recording one track at a time i find to be no 
> great hardship though.
>
> i actually find cubase pretty easy to use with the p3. i'm not sure 
> what syncing ableton to the p3 gets you above and beyond what i've 
> described here. am i missing something?
>
> sean_zoega <sean@zoega.co.uk <mailto:sean%40zoega.co.uk>> wrote:
> Thanks for the advice with syncing...which basically seems to boil
> down to "dont buy cubase" and if you do then cubase has to act as the
> master. I must admit I'm regretting Cubase now...its a total nightmare
> to setup (unless you have the mentality of a german programmer!). As
> I've just paid for the SX4 upgrade I'm stuck with it for a while
> though I have been getting lots of "nudges" towards ableton. I really
> should give it a good look.
>
> On the cubase side has anyone worked out how to use the midi channels
> seperately i.e. Sequentix Midi O/P 1 channel 1 to synth 1, channel 2
> to synth 2 etc. I feel like I'm being really dumb here but then Cubase
> seems to love making simple things difficult. All help gratefully
> received before I take an axe to cubase!
>
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>
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