Analogue-sequencer

Folks,

I've posted a test release (v3.84) to the files section.
I just quickly added flashing LED support, then got carried away, 
and started re-working playlist edit mode.
I'm not sure if this will be a permanent change - comments welcome.

In playlist edit, the current playlist position is now indicated in 
flashing green.
If you press the PAGE key, the current edit position no longer 
follows playback, meaning you can now change the pattern number and 
chg setting on steps other than the current one playing.
In this mode, the step being edited in shown in flashing amber. Move 
the edit position using the DATA knob.

Let me know if this seems like an improvement...
It still needs a method for reseting the playlist to the start at 
any point. This might replace the quick direction change as the 
function of RUN+track while in play mode with P3 running.

Cheers,
Colin f

(so much for doing aux c's next - PLE was annoying me too much)

On Tue, 13 Jan 2004 01:00:34 -0000, "colinfraser_com"
<colin@colinfraser.com> wrote:

>It still needs a method for reseting the playlist to the start at 
>any point. This might replace the quick direction change as the 
>function of RUN+track while in play mode with P3 running.

Aw, I liked that. And I'd still be into the idea of a "one time play"
using Run + (inactive) track as a performance thing. But I guess all
the stuff I like is performance based and lots of the things related
to playlists etc. are more compositional-based?
The one use I have for playlists is to mimic the Polymorph's "start
other sequence" command - so a pattern can play for (e.g.) 16 steps,
rest 32 steps, play again and so on. With Aux events I probably won't
even need that. I have also reproduced the same performance trick
using concurrent part play. So many ways to skin the same moggy with
the P3... 8-)

>(so much for doing aux c's next - PLE was annoying me too much)

Ho hum... 

Paul
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hi Colin,

> Let me know if this seems like an improvement...
> It still needs a method for reseting the playlist to the start at 
> any point. This might replace the quick direction change as the 
> function of RUN+track while in play mode with P3 running.

it took a bit of getting acquainted with but i like it..it does seem 
that this FW-update definately needs a memory wipe & restore before 
it works correctly; before i did this my P3 didn't start when RUN was 
hit the first time (it did after i hit STOP then RUN again) and the 
tempo went haywire a few times. no problems after the memory wipe and 
dumping it back though.
about the RUN+track while in play mode; what does this do at the 
moment? i'm getting the impression that it restarts the pattern 
playing in the playlist at the moment..pretty cool performance 
feature :) dunno if it's supposed to happen though..
another few things, about the DATA-pot (nothing of major importance 
though). would it be at all possible to replace this with an alpha 
dial? i think i might prefer this in terms of ease-of-use..
and when using it with the SCULPT function, would it be possible to 
edit the value before you actually implement the sculpt? so you could 
set the knob to a specific value and only then apply this value 
instead of setting it on the fly. i know i could do this by setting 
the randomize base value to the value i want and setting it's range 
to 1 (strange things happen when range is set to 0), but it seems 
kind of unlogical to do it like that..
and would it also be possible to have SCULPT and RANDOMIZE affect 
only active pattern steps? preferably as a soft/keycombo function, as 
i wouldn't want to lose the RANDOMIZE as it is at the moment.

sorry about the continuing barrage of wishes & questions; you really 
should never have mentioned that there's a whole 25% of system ROM 
left...:)

grtz Chiel

> it took a bit of getting acquainted with but i like it..it does seem 
> that this FW-update definately needs a memory wipe & restore before 
> it works correctly;

Odd... no variables should have moved, but then I've maybe moved stuff
and forgotten about it.
Anyway, I did say it was a 'test' release ;-)

> about the RUN+track while in play mode; what does this do at the 
> moment? i'm getting the impression that it restarts the pattern 
> playing in the playlist at the moment..pretty cool performance 
> feature :) dunno if it's supposed to happen though..

It *should* be incrementing the current direction setting for the track.
If it's resetting your playlists, something very odd is going on...
But sometimes I have trouble keeping track of what's going on, so I
don't blame you if you're imagining it !

> another few things, about the DATA-pot (nothing of major importance 
> though). would it be at all possible to replace this with an alpha 
> dial?

A 360 degree rotation pot would be a possible option. You can get these,
but I don't know about whether you can get them with the right splined
shaft. Anyway, they don't have an end stop, so you can keep turning
them, and they use the same electrical interface as a normal pot. So it
would only need a software change to support relative rather than
absolute editing, but those only happen if you can get all the other
users to agree to the hardware change. ;-)

> and when using it with the SCULPT function, would it be possible to 
> edit the value before you actually implement the sculpt?

You mean like a preview of where the data pot is, shown on the sculpt
page ?
Shouldn't be too hard. I'll put it in the TBI ledger.

> and would it also be possible to have SCULPT and RANDOMIZE affect 
> only active pattern steps? preferably as a soft/keycombo function, as 
> i wouldn't want to lose the RANDOMIZE as it is at the moment.

This would be equivalent to the NDub option in record mode ?
Another entry for the 'P3 Encyclopaedia of Future Features'.

> sorry about the continuing barrage of wishes & questions; you really 
> should never have mentioned that there's a whole 25% of system ROM 
> left...:)

Erm, I meant 0.25%.
;-)

Colin f

> A 360 degree rotation pot would be a possible option. You can get 
these,
> but I don't know about whether you can get them with the right 
splined
> shaft. Anyway, they don't have an end stop, so you can keep turning
> them, and they use the same electrical interface as a normal pot. 
So it
> would only need a software change to support relative rather than
> absolute editing, but those only happen if you can get all the other
> users to agree to the hardware change. ;-)

another option would be to implement something like hook mode on the 
nord modular... you can select whether the (non-360 degree) pots will 
jump to the current value (jump) or have no effect until the current 
value is reached (hook).

i'm guessing the argument for the alpha dial is more of a *physical* 
interface issue... it's something that i would love to have, but i 
have the luxury of saying that because i don't own a P3 yet. heh.

but if it's really the hook functionality that's the issue, i think 
the nord modular's solution is a good one (i just wish the rest of my 
synths had that option).

fred.

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