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P3 v3.85 beta

P3 v3.85 beta

2004-01-20 by colinfraser_com

Folks,

I've uploaded the latest beta P3 firmware to Yahoo files.
This version adds "auxiliary events". More on this in a moment, but 
first...
Despite trying to avoid doing so, I found the memory layout was 
getting a little bit too complicated to work with, so I have 
rationalised it significantly in this version.
You MUST DO A SYSEX BACKUP BEFORE installing this update, and do a 
RESTORE AFTER.
You will also have to reset your midi channel setup.
I hope that this re-arrangement will mean future updates don't 
require a backup/restore, although I know some of you do it 
routinely anyway, which isn't a bad idea.

Anyway, I digress...

As you'll know, each pattern in the P3 has note, velocity, delay, 
length, status, and four 'auxiliary' values per step.
Up until now, the function of each 'auxiliary' was a midi cc.

There are now two types of 'auxiliary function'.
The first are midi continuous controllers, as before.
The new type of aux functions are 'events'.
Events can be used to make temporary modifications to the pattern 
step about to be played on each track.

To configure the function for each aux A to D, you no longer use 
the 'aux func' softkey - it's gone.
Simply enter 'aux' edit mode using the upper function key.
Then press FUNC + <key function>.
This will take you to the new 'aux config' page.
Here you use the DATA knob as before to scroll through 128 possible 
options. Additionally, you use the PAGE key to toggle between the 
Midi CCs, and the Events.

BTW I've added a shortcut to aux edit mode - if you're not already 
there, FUNC + <key function> will jump straight to it.
Also, in the aux conf page, if you press <key function>, it will 
save the current aux config, and move on to edit the setting of the 
next aux function.

The initial set of Events are as follows:

	grab note trk n
	grab velo trk n
	grab leng trk n
	grab dlay trk n
	xpose abs +n
	xpose rel +n

When you configure an aux with one of these events, any active steps 
will carry out the assigned event using the step value.

e.g. 'grab note trk n' with a value of 1, will replace the note 
value about to be played on the track with the most recently played 
note value from track 1. This will do interesting things when you 
are grabbing a few notes from another track where the pattern is 
looping at a different point.

The 'xpose' events make use of another additional feature.
These are 'transpose accumulators'.
There is an accumulator for each track, whose value is reset to zero 
when a new pattern is selected on the track.
Notes played on each track are transposed as usual by 
PXPos, and any playlist transpose, but also by the current 
accumulator value.
The event 'xpose abs +n' simply sets the accumulator for the 
track to the value set on any active aux step.
The event 'xpose rel +n' *adds* the value on any active aux step 
to the accumulator for the track.
So if you assign aux A to 'xpose rel +n', and make step 1 active 
with a value of 5, each time your pattern passes through step 1, it 
will be transposed a further 5 semitones up, until it reaches a 
preset limit and is reset. A future release will provide 
accumulators for velocity and one of the auxes, with configurable 
reset points and a choice of wrap or rebound.

The initial set of events are mainly there to test the event 
handling routines and user interface.
Mr Nagle and I have a long list of possibilities that will fry your 
brains, so I'll break them to you gently.
These will include such options as randomization of values 
(including randomization of aux values that will modify something 
else - grab notes from random tracks for example), and events which 
can modify things such as tbase, direction, pattern length, etc.
Enjoy !

Cheers,
Colin f

Re: [analogue-sequencer] P3 v3.85 beta

2004-01-21 by Paul.Maddox@synth.Net

Colin,


 will the user guide get updated?

Paul
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> Folks,
>
> I've uploaded the latest beta P3 firmware to Yahoo files.
> This version adds "auxiliary events". More on this in a moment, but
> first...
> Despite trying to avoid doing so, I found the memory layout was
> getting a little bit too complicated to work with, so I have
> rationalised it significantly in this version.
> You MUST DO A SYSEX BACKUP BEFORE installing this update, and do a
> RESTORE AFTER.
> You will also have to reset your midi channel setup.
> I hope that this re-arrangement will mean future updates don't
> require a backup/restore, although I know some of you do it
> routinely anyway, which isn't a bad idea.
>
> Anyway, I digress...
>
> As you'll know, each pattern in the P3 has note, velocity, delay,
> length, status, and four 'auxiliary' values per step.
> Up until now, the function of each 'auxiliary' was a midi cc.
>
> There are now two types of 'auxiliary function'.
> The first are midi continuous controllers, as before.
> The new type of aux functions are 'events'.
> Events can be used to make temporary modifications to the pattern  step
> about to be played on each track.
>
> To configure the function for each aux A to D, you no longer use
> the 'aux func' softkey - it's gone.
> Simply enter 'aux' edit mode using the upper function key.
> Then press FUNC + <key function>.
> This will take you to the new 'aux config' page.
> Here you use the DATA knob as before to scroll through 128 possible
> options. Additionally, you use the PAGE key to toggle between the  Midi
> CCs, and the Events.
>
> BTW I've added a shortcut to aux edit mode - if you're not already
> there, FUNC + <key function> will jump straight to it.
> Also, in the aux conf page, if you press <key function>, it will
> save the current aux config, and move on to edit the setting of the
> next aux function.
>
> The initial set of Events are as follows:
>
> 	grab note trk n
> 	grab velo trk n
> 	grab leng trk n
> 	grab dlay trk n
> 	xpose abs +n
> 	xpose rel +n
>
> When you configure an aux with one of these events, any active steps
> will carry out the assigned event using the step value.
>
> e.g. 'grab note trk n' with a value of 1, will replace the note
> value about to be played on the track with the most recently played
> note value from track 1. This will do interesting things when you  are
> grabbing a few notes from another track where the pattern is
> looping at a different point.
>
> The 'xpose' events make use of another additional feature.
> These are 'transpose accumulators'.
> There is an accumulator for each track, whose value is reset to zero
> when a new pattern is selected on the track.
> Notes played on each track are transposed as usual by
> PXPos, and any playlist transpose, but also by the current
> accumulator value.
> The event 'xpose abs +n' simply sets the accumulator for the
> track to the value set on any active aux step.
> The event 'xpose rel +n' *adds* the value on any active aux step
> to the accumulator for the track.
> So if you assign aux A to 'xpose rel +n', and make step 1 active
> with a value of 5, each time your pattern passes through step 1, it
> will be transposed a further 5 semitones up, until it reaches a
> preset limit and is reset. A future release will provide
> accumulators for velocity and one of the auxes, with configurable
> reset points and a choice of wrap or rebound.
>
> The initial set of events are mainly there to test the event
> handling routines and user interface.
> Mr Nagle and I have a long list of possibilities that will fry your
> brains, so I'll break them to you gently.
> These will include such options as randomization of values
> (including randomization of aux values that will modify something  else
> - grab notes from random tracks for example), and events which  can
> modify things such as tbase, direction, pattern length, etc.
> Enjoy !
>
> Cheers,
> Colin f
>
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Re: [analogue-sequencer] P3 v3.85 beta

2004-01-21 by Robert van der Kamp

On Wednesday 21 January 2004 01:40, colinfraser_com wrote:
> The initial set of events are mainly there to test the
> event handling routines and user interface.
> Mr Nagle and I have a long list of possibilities that
> will fry your brains, so I'll break them to you gently.
> These will include such options as randomization of
> values (including randomization of aux values that will
> modify something else - grab notes from random tracks for
> example), and events which can modify things such as
> tbase, direction, pattern length, etc. Enjoy !

Very, *very* impressive!

Boele, forget it, you won't get your P3 back until I have 
mine.

Colin, does the Aux edit page has its own reversed 'A' shown 
in the LCD, or is that still simply a pattern edit mode?

Can't wait to try it out tonite.

- Robert

Re: [analogue-sequencer] P3 v3.85 beta

2004-01-21 by Paul.Maddox@synth.Net

Boele,

> Hey! Give the guy a minute! :-))))))

I do, but I want him to finish so I can get an R3

> Although I didn't see my P3 in real-life yet, I am 110% sure that it is
> a fantastic sequencer, due to a fantastic mr. C. Fraser!

yep, it is, it really does rock, but the rate at which the new features
are being added having it on paper to hand is essential (I dislike having
my PC on whilst writing music)

Paul

Re: [analogue-sequencer] P3 v3.85 beta

2004-01-21 by boele

on 21-01-2004 10:08, Paul.Maddox@synth.Net at Paul.Maddox@synth.Net wrote:

> Colin,
> 
> 
> will the user guide get updated?

Hey! Give the guy a minute! :-))))))

Although I didn't see my P3 in real-life yet, I am 110% sure that it is a
fantastic sequencer, due to a fantastic mr. C. Fraser!

Robert, are you at home this thursday? Can I just have a quick
look/listen???

Boele

Re: [analogue-sequencer] P3 v3.85 beta

2004-01-21 by boele

on 21-01-2004 10:34, Paul.Maddox@synth.Net at Paul.Maddox@synth.Net wrote:

> Boele,
> 
>> Hey! Give the guy a minute! :-))))))
> 
> I do, but I want him to finish so I can get an R3

FREAK!
> 
>> Although I didn't see my P3 in real-life yet, I am 110% sure that it is
>> a fantastic sequencer, due to a fantastic mr. C. Fraser!
> 
> yep, it is, it really does rock, but the rate at which the new features
> are being added having it on paper to hand is essential (I dislike having
> my PC on whilst writing music)

I even dislike having a PC at all... But you're right, paper reads WAY
easier then screens...

Boele

Re: [analogue-sequencer] P3 v3.85 beta

2004-01-21 by Paul.Maddox@synth.Net

Robert,

> It's that bad, that I'm now looking around for a
> multitracker (like the DPS16 I once owned) to make quick
> and good recordings in 24-bit/96k without the need of the
> PC. Switching on the thing would be a lot cheaper, I
> know...

hehe, Im selling my VS1680, ok its not 24bit and its not 96Khz, but its
close :-)

Paul

Re: [analogue-sequencer] P3 v3.85 beta

2004-01-21 by Paul Nagle

On Wed, 21 Jan 2004 09:34:16 -0000 (GMT), <Paul.Maddox@synth.Net>
wrote:

>yep, it is, it really does rock, but the rate at which the new features
>are being added having it on paper to hand is essential (I dislike having
>my PC on whilst writing music)

Wimp!

Anyway, maybe it's best you simply ignore them <g>

Paul
---
Paul Nagle - SoftRoom Music - www.softroom.co.uk
          Bogus Focus Records - www.BogusFocus.com

Re: [analogue-sequencer] P3 v3.85 beta

2004-01-21 by Robert van der Kamp

On Wednesday 21 January 2004 10:34, Paul.Maddox@synth.Net 
wrote:
> yep, it is, it really does rock, but the rate at which
> the new features are being added having it on paper to
> hand is essential (I dislike having my PC on whilst
> writing music)

Same here. When writing music I keep my PC switched off. The 
PC is only used when printing to audio, mixing and 
mastering is done.

But now I have a problem. I like to toy around with my new 
modular system, and when I hear something great, I want to 
record it in high quality audio, so that I can use it later 
in a song.

But that would mean I have to switch on the damn PC. :(

It's that bad, that I'm now looking around for a 
multitracker (like the DPS16 I once owned) to make quick 
and good recordings in 24-bit/96k without the need of the 
PC. Switching on the thing would be a lot cheaper, I 
know...

- Robert

Re: [analogue-sequencer] P3 v3.85 beta

2004-01-21 by Paul Nagle

On Wed, 21 Jan 2004 14:09:10 +0100, Robert van der Kamp
<robnet@wxs.nl> wrote:

>Same here. When writing music I keep my PC switched off. The 
>PC is only used when printing to audio, mixing and 
>mastering is done.

Me too.

>But now I have a problem. I like to toy around with my new 
>modular system, and when I hear something great, I want to 
>record it in high quality audio, so that I can use it later 
>in a song.
>But that would mean I have to switch on the damn PC. :(

For me the DAT comes into play here.

>It's that bad, that I'm now looking around for a 
>multitracker (like the DPS16 I once owned) to make quick 
>and good recordings in 24-bit/96k without the need of the 
>PC. Switching on the thing would be a lot cheaper, I 
>know...

Good idea.  My Roland VS-880 could also do the job I guess. 

Ah, you can't beat a good old-fashioned step sequencer. Except by a
super-duper new one like the P3. Newsflash - the P3 now streaks past
the Notron and becomes the Number One step sequencer of all time. Moog
960, ARP.. forget them!

Sobering thoughts eh?

Paul
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Paul Nagle - SoftRoom Music - www.softroom.co.uk
          Bogus Focus Records - www.BogusFocus.com

Re: [analogue-sequencer] P3 v3.85 beta

2004-01-21 by Robert van der Kamp

On Wednesday 21 January 2004 14:31, Paul.Maddox@synth.Net 
wrote:

> hehe, Im selling my VS1680, ok its not 24bit and its not
> 96Khz, but its close :-)

Wake up! ;P

- Robert

Re: [analogue-sequencer] P3 v3.85 beta

2004-01-21 by Robert van der Kamp

On Wednesday 21 January 2004 14:35, Paul Nagle wrote:
> For me the DAT comes into play here.
>
> >It's that bad, that I'm now looking around for a
> >multitracker (like the DPS16 I once owned) to make quick
> >and good recordings in 24-bit/96k without the need of
> > the PC. Switching on the thing would be a lot cheaper,
> > I know...
>
> Good idea.  My Roland VS-880 could also do the job I
> guess.

Too bad, DAT nor 880 will do the job. I really need the 
24-bit/96k format (or better). Recording analogs at 44 or 
48k would result in too much aliasing. You won't get that 
analog feel unless you go way up in the sample freq.

But I like your approach. ;)

- Robert

Re: [analogue-sequencer] P3 v3.85 beta

2004-01-21 by Paul Nagle

On Wed, 21 Jan 2004 13:35:46 +0000, Paul Nagle
<softroom@btinternet.com> wrote:

>Ah, you can't beat a good old-fashioned step sequencer. Except by a
>super-duper new one like the P3. Newsflash - the P3 now streaks past
>the Notron and becomes the Number One step sequencer of all time. Moog
>960, ARP.. forget them!
>
>Sobering thoughts eh?

I guess I should say that this statement applies to *today*. Who knows
what amazing sequencers are in the pipeline, waiting to burst on an
eager world <g>

Paul
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Paul Nagle - SoftRoom Music - www.softroom.co.uk
          Bogus Focus Records - www.BogusFocus.com

Re: [analogue-sequencer] P3 v3.85 beta

2004-01-21 by boele

on 21-01-2004 14:57, Paul Nagle at softroom@btinternet.com wrote:

> On Wed, 21 Jan 2004 13:35:46 +0000, Paul Nagle
> <softroom@btinternet.com> wrote:
> 
>> Ah, you can't beat a good old-fashioned step sequencer. Except by a
>> super-duper new one like the P3. Newsflash - the P3 now streaks past
>> the Notron and becomes the Number One step sequencer of all time. Moog
>> 960, ARP.. forget them!
>> 
>> Sobering thoughts eh?
> 
> I guess I should say that this statement applies to *today*. Who knows
> what amazing sequencers are in the pipeline, waiting to burst on an
> eager world <g>

P4?

:-) Boele

RE: [analogue-sequencer] P3 v3.85 beta

2004-01-21 by Colin f

> >The four Aux defintions A-D each have an LED and the button takes you
> >through them. Func plus the button (mine;'s blue I think) takes you
> >where you wanna go... 8)

I've never quite got the terminology straight, probably because F1, F2
and F3 are 'function' keys too.
The 'other' function keys I might refer to are the blue and red keys
that select upper knob mode and step key mode.
Let's call them 'knob mode' and 'step key mode'.

> Maybe I shoulda pointed out you FIRST need to be in the set of pages
> where Aux and CC edit used to be - i.e. Func plus Page. Might be cool
> if it took you there automatically too - some folks might not find
> those extra pages?

Actually you don't - you just need the 'knob mode' to be 'aux'.
In 'aux knob mode', the step key mode switch cycles round the four auxes
A, B, C and D.
FUNC + <step key mode switch> lets you configure the CC or event for the
active aux.
If you're not in 'aux knob mode', then FUNC+<step key...> takes you to
it directly.

An annotated digram would probably help here.

Cheers,
Colin f

Re: [analogue-sequencer] P3 v3.85 beta

2004-01-21 by Robert van der Kamp

On Wednesday 21 January 2004 01:40, colinfraser_com wrote:
> To configure the function for each aux A to D, you no
> longer use the 'aux func' softkey - it's gone.
> Simply enter 'aux' edit mode using the upper function
> key. Then press FUNC + <key function>.

Colin, I installed the new OS. But I don't understand the 
above part. The FUNC + <key function> stuff.  What's the 
key function? In what mode should I be when invoking this?

So close... ;)

- Robert

Re: [analogue-sequencer] P3 v3.85 beta

2004-01-21 by Paul Nagle

On Wed, 21 Jan 2004 20:00:37 +0100, Robert van der Kamp
<robnet@wxs.nl> wrote:

>Colin, I installed the new OS. But I don't understand the 
>above part. The FUNC + <key function> stuff.  What's the 
>key function? In what mode should I be when invoking this?

The four Aux defintions A-D each have an LED and the button takes you
through them. Func plus the button (mine;'s blue I think) takes you
where you wanna go... 8)

Paul
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Paul Nagle / Soft Room Music
Email: paul@softroom.co.uk www.softroom.co.uk
                           www.BogusFocus.com

Re: [analogue-sequencer] P3 v3.85 beta

2004-01-21 by Paul Nagle

On Wed, 21 Jan 2004 19:11:14 +0000, Paul Nagle
<softroom@btinternet.com> wrote:

>The four Aux defintions A-D each have an LED and the button takes you
>through them. Func plus the button (mine;'s blue I think) takes you
>where you wanna go... 8)

Maybe I shoulda pointed out you FIRST need to be in the set of pages
where Aux and CC edit used to be - i.e. Func plus Page. Might be cool
if it took you there automatically too - some folks might not find
those extra pages?

Oh, the button is red on mine not blue. I am a nincompoop.

Paul
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Paul Nagle / Soft Room Music
Email: paul@softroom.co.uk www.softroom.co.uk
                           www.BogusFocus.com

Re: [analogue-sequencer] P3 v3.85 beta

2004-01-21 by Paul Nagle

On Wed, 21 Jan 2004 19:36:51 -0000, "Colin f" <colin@colinfraser.com>
wrote:

>If you're not in 'aux knob mode', then FUNC+<step key...> takes you to
>it directly.

It takes the top LED to CC and I can then tweak the knobs but I
thought Aux Edit was being asked about, sorry, misunderstood.

Paul
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Email: paul@softroom.co.uk www.softroom.co.uk
                           www.BogusFocus.com

Re: [analogue-sequencer] P3 v3.85 beta

2004-01-21 by Paul Maddox

Geeze this is getting confusing..

Paul

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> > >The four Aux defintions A-D each have an LED and the button takes you
> > >through them. Func plus the button (mine;'s blue I think) takes you
> > >where you wanna go... 8)
> 
> I've never quite got the terminology straight, probably because F1, F2
> and F3 are 'function' keys too.
> The 'other' function keys I might refer to are the blue and red keys
> that select upper knob mode and step key mode.
> Let's call them 'knob mode' and 'step key mode'.
> 
> > Maybe I shoulda pointed out you FIRST need to be in the set of pages
> > where Aux and CC edit used to be - i.e. Func plus Page. Might be cool
> > if it took you there automatically too - some folks might not find
> > those extra pages?
> 
> Actually you don't - you just need the 'knob mode' to be 'aux'.
> In 'aux knob mode', the step key mode switch cycles round the four auxes
> A, B, C and D.
> FUNC + <step key mode switch> lets you configure the CC or event for the
> active aux.
> If you're not in 'aux knob mode', then FUNC+<step key...> takes you to
> it directly.
> 
> An annotated digram would probably help here.
> 
> Cheers,
> Colin f
> 
> 
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RE: [analogue-sequencer] P3 v3.85 beta

2004-01-21 by Colin f

> Colin, the relative Xpose works nice too. :)
> Is there a place where I can set the max xpose value, where 
> it resets? 

Not yet... It has an arbitrary limit of 36 (3 octaves).
I'm going to make the limit configurable per pattern, and possibly also
add a choice of whether it should reset to zero, or the 'direction'
should change so that positive transpose moves the accumulator back down
again.
It needs a bit of thinking about first...

> Too bad there isn't any shortbread.

You live in the Netherlands ! Just go out and buy some ;-)

Colin f

RE: [analogue-sequencer] P3 v3.85 beta

2004-01-21 by Colin f

> And then you start frigging with the directions so that even though it
> is grabbing notes from one track, it plays them in a different order. 

Huh ? It shouldn't do that, I don't think. At least I think I don't
think.

Colin f

Re: [analogue-sequencer] P3 v3.85 beta

2004-01-21 by Robert van der Kamp

Thanks guys, I've got it working now.

The note grabbing is a very powerfull tool, as it allows you 
to 'punch holes' in a tune at certain steps and allow for 
some variation at those points. Exactly how much variation 
can be controlled by the track the note is grabed from. A 
very musical form of randomness.

And the interface works very nice too.

I'm deeply impressed.

- Robert

Re: [analogue-sequencer] P3 v3.85 beta

2004-01-21 by Paul Nagle

On Wed, 21 Jan 2004 22:43:54 +0100, Robert van der Kamp
<robnet@wxs.nl> wrote:

>Thanks guys, I've got it working now.
>
>The note grabbing is a very powerfull tool, as it allows you 
>to 'punch holes' in a tune at certain steps and allow for 
>some variation at those points. Exactly how much variation 
>can be controlled by the track the note is grabed from. A 
>very musical form of randomness.

You can use it to make "Ghost tracks" too - just set each step to grab
its note from another and hey presto you have a mirrored track. Then
when you alter notes in the source, the ghost(s) change(s) too. 

And then you start frigging with the directions so that even though it
is grabbing notes from one track, it plays them in a different order. 

And then..... (oops, too much "Dude, where's my car?")

Paul
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Email: paul@softroom.co.uk www.softroom.co.uk
                           www.BogusFocus.com

Re: [analogue-sequencer] P3 v3.85 beta

2004-01-21 by Robert van der Kamp

Colin, the relative Xpose works nice too. :)
Is there a place where I can set the max xpose value, where 
it resets? 

I'm freaking out here on a two-track piece, where track one 
is both grabbing and xposing from track 2. And all that 
with a nice Andromeda.

Too bad there isn't any shortbread.

Re: [analogue-sequencer] P3 v3.85 beta

2004-01-21 by Paul Nagle

On Wed, 21 Jan 2004 22:46:38 +0100, Robert van der Kamp
<robnet@wxs.nl> wrote:

>I'm freaking out here on a two-track piece, where track one 
>is both grabbing and xposing from track 2. And all that 
>with a nice Andromeda.

I just did this well strange thing with a V-Synth just now where it
was transposing this strange background FX and also throwing in random
controller changes to speed up samples, reverse them, time-freeze them
and add wibbly delay effects. Every now and again part of the sample
screamed ...... 
Not a sequence as such but very, very weird.

>Too bad there isn't any shortbread.

You have my sympathies... 8-)

Paul
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Email: paul@softroom.co.uk www.softroom.co.uk
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Re: [analogue-sequencer] P3 v3.85 beta

2004-01-21 by Robert van der Kamp

On Wednesday 21 January 2004 22:44, Paul Nagle wrote:

> You can use it to make "Ghost tracks" too - just set each
> step to grab its note from another and hey presto you
> have a mirrored track. Then when you alter notes in the
> source, the ghost(s) change(s) too.
>
> And then you start frigging with the directions so that
> even though it is grabbing notes from one track, it plays
> them in a different order.

Yes, I see! :)

Or what about grabbing from different tracks?

Cooooool! :))

Re: [analogue-sequencer] P3 v3.85 beta

2004-01-21 by Robert van der Kamp

On Wednesday 21 January 2004 22:47, Paul Nagle wrote:

> I just did this well strange thing with a V-Synth just
> now where it was transposing this strange background FX
> and also throwing in random controller changes to speed
> up samples, reverse them, time-freeze them and add wibbly
> delay effects. Every now and again part of the sample
> screamed ......
> Not a sequence as such but very, very weird.

I want it! Please send me the P3 song and the V patch. :)
Okay then, an mp3 will do.

>
> >Too bad there isn't any shortbread.
>
> You have my sympathies... 8-)

Heh. ;)

Re: [analogue-sequencer] P3 v3.85 beta

2004-01-21 by Robert van der Kamp

On Wednesday 21 January 2004 22:51, Colin f wrote:
> > Colin, the relative Xpose works nice too. :)
> > Is there a place where I can set the max xpose value,
> > where it resets?
>
> Not yet... It has an arbitrary limit of 36 (3 octaves).
> I'm going to make the limit configurable per pattern, and
> possibly also add a choice of whether it should reset to
> zero, or the 'direction' should change so that positive
> transpose moves the accumulator back down again.
> It needs a bit of thinking about first...

Sounds promising. 

>
> > Too bad there isn't any shortbread.
>
> You live in the Netherlands ! Just go out and buy some
> ;-)

Too late, shops are closed. Even in Holland. ;)

Re: [analogue-sequencer] P3 v3.85 beta

2004-01-21 by Robert van der Kamp

This whole grabbing concepts makes me want a P3 with LOTS of 
additional tracks, just to feed the tracks that do the 
grabbing. 8 tracks total just isn't enough.

I guess I will have to wait for the P4 to have a 32-track 
machine, right?

Re: [analogue-sequencer] P3 v3.85 beta

2004-01-21 by Robert van der Kamp

Can I use a muted track just to feed a grabbing track? 
That is, I want it to play and generate notes, but I don't 
want the notes to be sent out to the MIDI bus. A background 
track. Looks like it doesn't work?

I'd like, say, 4 backup tracks for each of the 8 main 
tracks. :))

- Robert

Re: [analogue-sequencer] P3 v3.85 beta

2004-01-21 by Paul Nagle

On Wed, 21 Jan 2004 22:52:02 +0100, Robert van der Kamp
<robnet@wxs.nl> wrote:

>Yes, I see! :)
>
>Or what about grabbing from different tracks?
>
>Cooooool! :))
>

Now you're getting into the swing of it <g> - infectious eh?

Paul

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Re: [analogue-sequencer] P3 v3.85 beta

2004-01-21 by Paul Nagle

On Wed, 21 Jan 2004 23:22:49 +0100, Robert van der Kamp
<robnet@wxs.nl> wrote:

>Can I use a muted track just to feed a grabbing track? 
>That is, I want it to play and generate notes, but I don't 
>want the notes to be sent out to the MIDI bus. A background 
>track. Looks like it doesn't work?

It should. I was curious whether it would be cool for a "grabbed
event" that was muted to be replaced by the previous non-muted event
and then I started to contemplate the possibilities already on offer
and coming...

>I'd like, say, 4 backup tracks for each of the 8 main 
>tracks. :))

By having 8 tracks of 4 auxilliaries the mayhem is already incredible.
And I speak as someone who was amazed by a 4=track Notron. Now it
seems a simplistic, limited little thing.... 8-)

Paul
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