Bc2000 (for the BCF2000 & BCR2000)

HELLO!
I wanted to know a lot of things but I'll go slow so somebody can 
answer.

-1-Do you know wich comand should I use to go from one device to 
another in reason without toching the mouse..?

-2-How should I connect both BCF and BCR to my pc for better 
performance?
  Can I use 2 USB connections? or should I use midi for BCR fo example.
  If it's midi. How should I set the cables? (Should there be 2cables?)

THANK YOU VERY VERY MUCH
Guido

--- In bc2000@yahoogroups.com, "guidoronconi" <guidoronconi@...> 
wrote:
>
> HELLO!
> I wanted to know a lot of things but I'll go slow so somebody can 
> answer.
> 
> -1-Do you know wich comand should I use to go from one device to 
> another in reason without toching the mouse..?
> 
> -2-How should I connect both BCF and BCR to my pc for better 
> performance?
>   Can I use 2 USB connections? or should I use midi for BCR fo 
example.
>   If it's midi. How should I set the cables? (Should there be 
2cables?)
> 
> THANK YOU VERY VERY MUCH
> Guido
>
hello,

about 2): you can two USB connections (you'll see a BCR2000 midi 
in/out and a BCF2000 midi in/out available in your host) - i do so 
and it works fine!

ciao,

Goyya

--- In bc2000@yahoogroups.com, "guidoronconi" <guidoronconi@...> wrote:
>
> HELLO!
> I wanted to know a lot of things but I'll go slow so somebody can 
> answer.
> 
> -1-Do you know wich comand should I use to go from one device to 
> another in reason without toching the mouse..?
> 
> -2-How should I connect both BCF and BCR to my pc for better 
> performance?
>   Can I use 2 USB connections? or should I use midi for BCR fo example.
>   If it's midi. How should I set the cables? (Should there be 2cables?)
> 
> THANK YOU VERY VERY MUCH
> Guido
>

I use the usb for the fader model because when I'm going to mix it's a
big deal and have to get everything in order etc. So I know I'm going
to mix and I turn on the BCF before I open cubase. You have to have
the device running when you boot the program or the port won't be
there. The BCR however I leave on a legacy midi port because I use it
to adjust EQ's I never know when I want to use it and if it's on a
hardware port I can turn it on and don't have to reboot my program.

--- In bc2000@yahoogroups.com, "goyya76" wrote:
>
> --- In bc2000@yahoogroups.com, "guidoronconi" guidoronconi@
> wrote:
> >
> > HELLO!
> > I wanted to know a lot of things but I'll go slow so somebody can
> > answer.
> >
> > -1-Do you know wich comand should I use to go from one device to
> > another in reason without toching the mouse..?
> >
> > -2-How should I connect both BCF and BCR to my pc for better
> > performance?
> > Can I use 2 USB connections? or should I use midi for BCR fo
> example.
> > If it's midi. How should I set the cables? (Should there be
> 2cables?)
> >
> > THANK YOU VERY VERY MUCH
> > Guido
> >
> hello,
>
> about 2): you can two USB connections (you'll see a BCR2000 midi
> in/out and a BCF2000 midi in/out available in your host) - i do so
> and it works fine!
>
> ciao,
>
> Goyya
>
Hello and thanks!
Some weird things happend to my computer when I use both USB ports. In oone case it told me I was dooing too fast midi operations for my computer speed; (It's a core2duo with 2 g ram 800mhz...)
Also I wanted to use bcf for Nuendo while using Bcr for vst's or virtual instruments, AND (this is important) I want to use a Midi piano (FATAR studiologic) to play the instruments too
Does anybody know how should I connect and wich ports should I use to manage this.
It would help me a lot

SO:

• BCF for Maackie control Nuendo 3
  
• BCR for Vst and Virtual Instruments (absynth-ezdrummer)
  
• Fatar Midi piano (It conects via midi and do not know which por to plug it in for better performance)
• Wich ports shoul I use (internally, considering I'm using midi yoke for huskerview)
• THANK THANKS THANKS

Guido

--- In bc2000@yahoogroups.com, "guidoronconi" <guidoronconi@...> wrote:
> Some weird things happend to my computer when I use both USB ports. In 
> oone case it told me I was dooing too fast midi operations for my 
> computer speed; (It's a core2duo with 2 g ram 800mhz...)
> Also I wanted to use bcf for Nuendo while using Bcr for vst's or
virtual 
> instruments, AND (this is important) I want to use a Midi piano (FATAR 
> studiologic) to play the instruments too
> Does anybody know how should I connect and wich ports should I use to 
> manage this.
> It would help me a lot
> 
> SO:
> 
>     * BCF for Maackie control Nuendo 3
>     * BCR for Vst and Virtual Instruments (absynth-ezdrummer)
>     * Fatar Midi piano (It conects via midi and do not know which por to
>       plug it in for better performance)
>     * Wich ports shoul I use (internally, considering I'm using midi
>       yoke for huskerview)
>     * THANK THANKS THANKS

In my experience, it's perfectly possible to use both a BCF and a BCR
together on separate USB ports. However, this can go wrong for many
reasons. I'm not familiar with all your requirements, but here are
some thoughts you may consider:

You might try to first get things with the BCF's and the BCR's
operation modes both set to "U-1", rather than U-2, U-3 or U-4. (In
principle, these other modes should work fine, but they do generate
additional USB-based MIDI input/output ports on the computer, which
can be very confusing - for both the operating system and the user!)

If you're using Windows XP or Vista, it's best to use a Behringer USB
driver (preferably vs. 1.2.1.3), and NOT the standard Windows driver
called "USB Audio Device", because of the great confusion concerning
USB input/output port names caused by "USB Audio Device".

Finally: if you can, DON'T use MIDI Yoke, at least not at first: it
can be responsible for all kinds of MIDI feedback loops, thereby
slowing down your computer (or at least your music software) to a
standstill. First try to get things working with MIDI Yoke uninstalled
(or at least disabled completely - I can't remember whether that's
possible). Once you've then got things working, you may try to
re-install MIDI Yoke (and possibly you then discover that MIDI Yoke
was responsible for your problem!).

Mark.

--- In bc2000@yahoogroups.com, "Mark van den Berg" <markwinvdb@...> wrote:
>
> Finally: if you can, DON'T use MIDI Yoke, at least not at first: it
> can be responsible for all kinds of MIDI feedback loops, thereby
> slowing down your computer (or at least your music software) to a
> standstill. First try to get things working with MIDI Yoke uninstalled
> (or at least disabled completely - I can't remember whether that's
> possible). Once you've then got things working, you may try to
> re-install MIDI Yoke (and possibly you then discover that MIDI Yoke
> was responsible for your problem!).
> 
> Mark.
>

Do you speak about MIDI YOKE only or about all similar kind of virtual
MIDI interfaces in general?

--- In bc2000@yahoogroups.com, "ivaasura" <Sunrider7@...> wrote:
>> and possibly you then discover that MIDI Yoke
>> was responsible for your problem!).
>>
>> Mark.
>>
> 
> Do you speak about MIDI YOKE only or about all similar kind of virtual
> MIDI interfaces in general?

I must confess I wasn't aware of the existence of any other virtual
MIDI interfaces like MIDI Yoke. So yes: I was talking specifically
about MIDI Yoke. However, I can easily imagine similar trouble arising
with other such devices. So please enlighten me if you know any; it
might be useful for me to test them during further development of BC
Manager.

Mark.

--- In bc2000@yahoogroups.com, "Mark van den Berg" <markwinvdb@...> wrote:
>
> I must confess I wasn't aware of the existence of any other virtual
> MIDI interfaces like MIDI Yoke. So yes: I was talking specifically
> about MIDI Yoke. However, I can easily imagine similar trouble arising
> with other such devices. So please enlighten me if you know any; it
> might be useful for me to test them during further development of BC
> Manager.
> 
> Mark.
>

Hi Mark,

a few years ago I had installed LoopBe on my computer:

http://www.nerds.de/en/loopbe1.html

Some other virtual MIDI cables (which I never tried) are: 

http://www.hurchalla.com/Maple_driver.html
http://www.johnrofrano.com/tutorials/virtualmidirouter.htm
http://members.magnet.at/hubwin/midi.html

cu

Iva Asura

--- In bc2000@yahoogroups.com, "ivaasura" <Sunrider7@...> wrote:
> a few years ago I had installed LoopBe on my computer:
> 
> http://www.nerds.de/en/loopbe1.html
> 
> Some other virtual MIDI cables (which I never tried) are: 
> 
> http://www.hurchalla.com/Maple_driver.html
> http://www.johnrofrano.com/tutorials/virtualmidirouter.htm
> http://members.magnet.at/hubwin/midi.html

Thanks a lot! I'll check them out.

Mark.