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Custom message for encoder request - BCR2000 - podxt Live control.

Custom message for encoder request - BCR2000 - podxt Live control.

2012-09-23 by -

Hey all, 
I am making a preset to control Line 6 PodXt Live foot pedal.
It only uses cc's so nothing too fancy.
However, line 6 has decided for some reason to have amp models located on CC#12 values 0-36 then again at 101-106.

So when I try to select the amp model by turning the knob it works however, there is a large gap 37-100 that the knob does not change the amp model.

Now I can change the resolution of the knob to output more values per turn if I spin faster. 

Does anyone have a better solution of how to make the knob jump from 36 to 101?

Thanks much.

Re: Custom message for encoder request - BCR2000 - podxt Live control.

2012-09-23 by Royce

This is a weird one.

36  0010 0100
101 0110 0101  looks like an increment of 1 with bit 6 set like a negative number. 

Pretty poor programming from line 6. 
Probably some other model has the extra amp models and they just reused the firmware.

You might like to use a switched encoder like Encoder 1.
Use the normal CC easypar command with a range of 0 to 106 - probably how you have it now.
Set the switch to toggle between 36 an 101 with the same CC easypar
$button 1  
  .easypar CC  01 12 101 106 toggleon
  .default 101
$encoder 1
  .easypar CC 1 12 0 106 absolute
  .showvalue on
  .resolution 96 96 96 96
  .default 0

The idea is to use the encoder to go to 36 then push the switch, but the switch will always set the value 106 so you need to wind back the encoder. 

Not an elegant solution, but it might make it a bit better. 
Note that a .showvalue for the button will only show on or off.

You you would think that you could set the encoder range to 0 - 36 and have the switch increment the last 6 values numbers 101 - 106.
Unfortunately when you press the switch the encoders has set its value and the switch will increment from there.
Strangely when you turn the encoder the first value will be back to 36


You can use the encoder as is but you could use the advanced .tx command and the switch will work independently of the encoder value.

$button 1  
  .mode incval 1
  .minmax 101 106
  .default 101
  .tx  $B0 12 val 
$encoder 1
  .easypar CC 1 12 0 36 absolute
  .showvalue on
  .resolution 96 96 96 96

Not good, but it might help

Royce

--- In bc2000@yahoogroups.com, "-" <k5kip_1999@...> wrote:
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>
> Hey all, 
> I am making a preset to control Line 6 PodXt Live foot pedal.
> It only uses cc's so nothing too fancy.
> However, line 6 has decided for some reason to have amp models located on CC#12 values 0-36 then again at 101-106.
> 
> So when I try to select the amp model by turning the knob it works however, there is a large gap 37-100 that the knob does not change the amp model.
> 
> Now I can change the resolution of the knob to output more values per turn if I spin faster. 
> 
> Does anyone have a better solution of how to make the knob jump from 36 to 101?
> 
> Thanks much.
>

Re: [bc2000] Custom message for encoder request - BCR2000 - podxt Live control.

2012-09-23 by Mike Perkowitz


Not ideal, but I'd try setting two knobs to the same CC, one with the range 0-36 and one for 101-106. then if you want the lower set, you use the first knob, and the second set the second knob. it seems like that should work.

mike

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On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 1:14 AM, - <k5kip_1999@yahoo.com> wrote:

Hey all,
I am making a preset to control Line 6 PodXt Live foot pedal.
It only uses cc's so nothing too fancy.
However, line 6 has decided for some reason to have amp models located on CC#12 values 0-36 then again at 101-106.

Re: Custom message for encoder request - BCR2000 - podxt Live control.

2012-09-24 by Royce

Hi Mike
Good idea. It will work with encoders (using easypar) 
Pity to use an encoder for 6 values though.

It is sad that the incrementing button doesn't work the same as the encoder with easypar values.
My guess is that it was implemented differently when they added button increment, which was was an addition in the last firmware. 

All the best
Royce

--- In bc2000@yahoogroups.com, Mike Perkowitz <perkowitz@...> wrote:
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>
> Not ideal, but I'd try setting two knobs to the same CC, one with the range
> 0-36 and one for 101-106. then if you want the lower set, you use the first
> knob, and the second set the second knob. it seems like that should work.
> 
> mike
> 
> 
> On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 1:14 AM, - <k5kip_1999@...> wrote:
> 
> > **
> >
> >
> > Hey all,
> > I am making a preset to control Line 6 PodXt Live foot pedal.
> > It only uses cc's so nothing too fancy.
> > However, line 6 has decided for some reason to have amp models located on
> > CC#12 values 0-36 then again at 101-106.
> >
> >
>

Re: Custom message for encoder request - BCR2000 - podxt Live control.

2012-09-26 by k5kip_1999

Thanks for the thoughts 
Two knobs - or a knob and a button. Makes sense - will try 
I think they did to leave room for $ amp models. Extra $100 gets more stuff. 


--- In bc2000@yahoogroups.com, "Royce" <rpcfender@...> wrote:
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>
> Hi Mike
> Good idea. It will work with encoders (using easypar) 
> Pity to use an encoder for 6 values though.
> 
> It is sad that the incrementing button doesn't work the same as the encoder with easypar values.
> My guess is that it was implemented differently when they added button increment, which was was an addition in the last firmware. 
> 
> All the best
> Royce
> 
> --- In bc2000@yahoogroups.com, Mike Perkowitz <perkowitz@> wrote:
> >
> > Not ideal, but I'd try setting two knobs to the same CC, one with the range
> > 0-36 and one for 101-106. then if you want the lower set, you use the first
> > knob, and the second set the second knob. it seems like that should work.
> > 
> > mike
> > 
> > 
> > On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 1:14 AM, - <k5kip_1999@> wrote:
> > 
> > > **
> > >
> > >
> > > Hey all,
> > > I am making a preset to control Line 6 PodXt Live foot pedal.
> > > It only uses cc's so nothing too fancy.
> > > However, line 6 has decided for some reason to have amp models located on
> > > CC#12 values 0-36 then again at 101-106.
> > >
> > >
> >
>

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