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Live! Remote script for BCR2000?

Live! Remote script for BCR2000?

2014-04-08 by <orkneyman@...>

Hi all, I'm a new user of the BCR2000 and find myself a little confused by remote scripts for Ableton Live. Is there anywhere I could download one so that I can see where everything is and adjust it to my needs? The one in my user folder is, well, sparse and has no real indication of how to actually lay things out in the text file.

Re: Live! Remote script for BCR2000?

2014-04-09 by <orkneyman@...>

Actually, rereading this I see it appears as if I haven't even run a search for this answer. I have run a search but find all the results confusing.
All I want to do is to get the BCR2000 controlling things in Ableton - nothing fancy, just basic stuff for recording. Ideally I'd like to be able to edit things to my liking but that's not really immediately important - I just want to get on with some work. All the posts I find here and in other places seem way too complicated for my purpose. What I've got going so far is I've set the BCR2000 as a control surface in Live with all the settings as commonly suggested, run a dump from Live to the unit and mapped the transport buttons to some of the switches. These mappings disappear when I relaunch Live. Can someone please direct me to a very simple, step by step guide to getting this thing going?

Re: Live! Remote script for BCR2000?

2014-04-09 by Trevor Morris

Live scripts only allow auto mapping of 8 variables.  What u need to do is change the encoders to match the cc numbers of your controller.  If you grab the mackie emulation stuff, there are 2 modified cfg files that demonstrate this. I Beleive they are called "bcr left" and "bcr right" You don't need to use scripting to get auto map to work however, assigning cc 1-8 to any 8 encoders should allow auto mapping to work w/o additional scripting.  Community correct me if I'm wrong, I been messing with this heavily lately attempting to get more than 8 variables to automap, the closest I've gotten is a max4live patch "search bcr2000" at max4live site.  I would love to find out I'm wrong about this btw :)
I uploaded a QuickStart guide that may help you as well, look in the files section. Ableton QuickStart:  I didn't end up using remote scripts in the end because they didn't really solve any problems.  There is a way to do crazier stuff if u get into sysex, but that's also proven to be fruitless black hole, the mackie emulation comes the closest.  You could try to backwards engineer the mackie stuff but that would be quite the undertaking.
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Re: Live! Remote script for BCR2000?

2014-04-09 by <jerrysze@...>

Guys,

This is a timely thread, I just hooked up the BCR to Live and was wondering how to use it to control VST parameters, I have a BCF also and it was pretty straight-forward to map it as a simple mixer in Live, since there are much less control knobs to deal with. But BCR is turning out much harder to configure properly. I will try a few things and report back, in the meantime, if you find something useful, please share it on this thread.

Jaz

Re: Live! Remote script for BCR2000?

2014-04-09 by <trevormorrissound@...>

I can tell you now there is no established way to get the bcr to control all vst parameters without you manually mapping every single one. The automap feature only will allow you to control 8 variables at a time so you will be stuck with that number of parameters at your fingertips. The solution is to program each bank for different vst's and switch banks. If you use macros for your more common vsts (eq, compression, reverb, etc) the 8 parameters seem to work out just find most of the time. I have been trying to figure out how to get it to control every vst parameter for any vst just by clicking on them but the solution is not apparnet and the closest I have seen anyone get is with this max4live patch http://www.maxforlive.com/library/device/1416/bcr2000-control . I looked deep into the scripting stuff as well and the way auto map and the user control scripting works: it still limits you on how many vst parameters you can wrangle at a time. I would suggest you d/l this program http://mountainutilities.eu/bcmanager and program all your banks to be on separate channels. For example Program 1, assign all the knobs to unique cc numbers and send them all out channel 1, for bank 2 copy and paste the first bank and change them all to channel 2, etc etc. The blue handling/automap cc#'s are cc1-cc8 on channel 1. If you map 8 knobs to those cc numbers on bank 1, then you can have blue handling/automapping assigned to any 8 knobs you wish. I'm currently trying to resolve this issue with my own max4live patch but there are extreme routing issues to deal with, I will post if I come up with a solution. I hope this helps, if anyone else has got this working I'm all ears.

Re: Live! Remote script for BCR2000?

2014-04-09 by <orkneyman@...>

Please, can someone direct me to a simple guide to getting this working on Mackie mode. And I stress the word simple. Surely somebody has done one?

Re: Live! Remote script for BCR2000?

2014-04-09 by <orkneyman@...>

Never mind, panic over. I suspect it would have all been a lot faster if I hadn't searched for an answer and just worked it out myself.

Re: Live! Remote script for BCR2000?

2014-04-10 by <trevormorrissound@...>

You can only automap 8 variables at a time. This is what it says in the ableton documentation and countless threads on the ableton forum. There is no immediate solution w/o external modification. The max4live stuff would probably be able to do it, however when messing with the current max4live device that is supposedly able to do this, my project goes haywire and things randomly unbind. In search of another solution I came across this: http://stc.wiffbi.com/ which I'm gonna try out and see how it goes. Considering how popular live and the fact that I couldnt find a single person who said they got this working on forums, the solution is either difficult or not possible. Again would love another to chime in and tell me im wrong, this has been frustrating me for weeks..about ready to switch to bitwig.

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