Cgs synth

> Hi everyone,
> I'm really looking forward to trying my hand at building some CGS
> modules but am not sure where I should start. I have some experience
> soldering but I don't have a background in electronics. I've been
> considering doing DIY modules for a long time now, especially now that
> I've spent a considerable amount of time with my pre-built modules.
> I'd really like to start building a small entirely CGS-based system,
> but I'm worried about choosing the best way to power the system and
> getting front panels designed for all of the modules, not to mention
> getting snagged on problems I don't understand. I suspect I'm being
> somewhat ambitious, but I think you learn best through doing. That
> said, do you think I'm taking on too much, or will I be rewarded by my
> ambition? Any feedback is much appreciated, even if all I get back is
> a URL that can give me some direction.
> Thanks so much.
> Matt
>

From: "Matt Patey" <matt.patey@...>
To: <cgs_synth@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 1:12 PM
Subject: [cgs_synth] Beginner looking for tips


> Hi everyone,
>
> I'm really looking forward to trying my hand at building some CGS
> modules but am not sure where I should start. I have some experience
> soldering but I don't have a background in electronics. I've been
> considering doing DIY modules for a long time now, especially now that
> I've spent a considerable amount of time with my pre-built modules.
> I'd really like to start building a small entirely CGS-based system,
> but I'm worried about choosing the best way to power the system and
> getting front panels designed for all of the modules, not to mention
> getting snagged on problems I don't understand. I suspect I'm being
> somewhat ambitious, but I think you learn best through doing. That
> said, do you think I'm taking on too much, or will I be rewarded by my
> ambition? Any feedback is much appreciated, even if all I get back is
> a URL that can give me some direction.
>
> Thanks so much.
> Matt
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> The CGS Modular Synth home page: http://www.cgs.synth.net/
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

On Jun 2, 2008, at 10:12 PM, Matt Patey wrote:

> Hi everyone,
>
> I'm really looking forward to trying my hand at building some CGS
> modules but am not sure where I should start. I have some experience
> soldering but I don't have a background in electronics. I've been
> considering doing DIY modules for a long time now, especially now that
> I've spent a considerable amount of time with my pre-built modules.
> I'd really like to start building a small entirely CGS-based system,
> but I'm worried about choosing the best way to power the system and
> getting front panels designed for all of the modules, not to mention
> getting snagged on problems I don't understand. I suspect I'm being
> somewhat ambitious, but I think you learn best through doing. That
> said, do you think I'm taking on too much, or will I be rewarded by my
> ambition? Any feedback is much appreciated, even if all I get back is
> a URL that can give me some direction.
>
> Thanks so much.
> Matt
>
>

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On 3-Jun-08, at 7:20 AM, Laurie Biddulph wrote:

> Hi Matt,
>
> I supply component kits for the CGS family of modules although I do
> not
> supply front panels for them. These large format panels are
> available in
> various forms from a number of other suppliers like BrideChamber and
> MetalBox (I think). The CGS forum has a number of panel designs
> available in
> FPD (FrontPanelDesigner) format so you could send them files off to
> the
> manufacture (US and Germany) who can make high quality panels for
> you. Their
> pricing can be quite high unless you follow some simples rules for
> keeping
> the costs down. I am sure there are a number of people out there who
> would
> jump in on a group buy which would greatly help ease the costs of the
> panels.
>
> Most of the CGS modules will require that you make some design/
> construction
> decisions when it comes to wiring them up and this will affect your
> panel
> design so it is important to decide how you want to configure each
> module
> and then design your panel or look at some existing panel designs
> and decide
> which one suits your needs the best.
>
> All the CGS board are designed with the larger formats in mind like
> MOTM and
> DOTCOM but if you want to go for smaller module formats like
> Eurorack then
> you could look at my Panther modules. These are re-designed CGS pcbs
> that
> have been tailored to fit behind the smaller panel format. In
> addition to
> the component kits for these I am also able to offer front panels
> allowing
> you to construct complete CGS modules. of course that does mean the
> configuration work has been done for you and you may find that this
> does not
> meet your needs. At the moment I have 3 of the CGS modules in Eurorack
> format (CGS21, CGS35 and CGS58) and am currently working on the
> CGS47 and
> CGS57. Others will follow although I do not anticipate that I will be
> offering the full range of CGS modules.
>
> You should probably note that the CGS modules do not offer the basic
> suite
> of modules that you need for a full synthesiser in the standard form
> that we
> would recognise. Most of the modules are what could be called `exotic
> modules' in that they offer alternative or variations to the standard
> modules. For example, the Super Psycho LFO is not a regular LFO and
> would
> more likely be added to a system that already has conventional LFOs.
> On the
> other hand, modules like the VCO (CGS48), Utility LFO (CGS58) and
> Synthacon
> Filter (CGS35) are more inline with the `standard module' formats.
>
> Best Regards
>
> (Mr) Laurie Biddulph
> Phone: +61 (0)2 4340 0938
> Mobile: 0400 257 645
>
> Elby Designs
> ABN: 70 022 727 605
> http://www.elby-designs.com
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Matt Patey" <matt.patey@...>
> To: <cgs_synth@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 1:12 PM
> Subject: [cgs_synth] Beginner looking for tips
>
> > Hi everyone,
> >
> > I'm really looking forward to trying my hand at building some CGS
> > modules but am not sure where I should start. I have some experience
> > soldering but I don't have a background in electronics. I've been
> > considering doing DIY modules for a long time now, especially now
> that
> > I've spent a considerable amount of time with my pre-built modules.
> > I'd really like to start building a small entirely CGS-based system,
> > but I'm worried about choosing the best way to power the system and
> > getting front panels designed for all of the modules, not to mention
> > getting snagged on problems I don't understand. I suspect I'm being
> > somewhat ambitious, but I think you learn best through doing. That
> > said, do you think I'm taking on too much, or will I be rewarded
> by my
> > ambition? Any feedback is much appreciated, even if all I get back
> is
> > a URL that can give me some direction.
> >
> > Thanks so much.
> > Matt
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > The CGS Modular Synth home page: http://www.cgs.synth.net/
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>

On 3-Jun-08, at 9:42 AM, Mark wrote:

> On 6/2/08, Matt Patey put forth:
> >
> >I've spent a considerable amount of time with my pre-built modules.
> >I'd really like to start building a small entirely CGS-based system,
> >but I'm worried about choosing the best way to power the system and
> >getting front panels designed for all of the modules,
>
> If you have pre-built modules, then it seems you already have a power
> supply. If you need another power supply, then the best way is to
> buy one. You can buy a better power supply for less money than you
> can build yourself.
>
> While you don't mention which format you are using, that will
> determine which panels are already available. If you run Windows you
> can order panels using fpd files. You might want to check out the
> ModularSynthPanels yahoogroup.
>
> >not to mention getting snagged on problems I don't understand.
>
> If you do get stuck, there are plenty of forums where you can ask
> for help.
>
>
>

On 3-Jun-08, at 9:48 AM, Scott Deyo wrote:

> I think your first decision should be (unless you've made this one
> already) which format you will build in.
> There are lots of factors to consider, but that can be part of the fun
> : )
>
> You mentioned a small system, so if size is your primary concern, you
> could start with kits from
> www.blacet.com
> and CGS kits from
> www.elby-designs.com
>
> These modules are "Euro" and "Frac" format -- 3U high w/ 1/8" jacks.
>
> I mention Blacet because it's a good place to "get your feet wet" if
> you're nervous. Their kits are very easy and well-documented.
>
> Blacet has a nice rack system, and power supplies.
>
> The modularsynthpanels group would also be a good resource for getting
> panels from Schaeffer/ FPE, or getting people to go in together on
> some
> panels (which is how that group started).
>
> If you like bigger stuff, my site
> www.bridechamber.com
> has a bunch of kits and such, and CGS panels.
>
> Those are "MOTM" format -- 5U high w/ 1/4" jacks.
> The suggested power supply would be from www.synthtech.com
>
> And as far as being rewarded for your ambition...?
> You can't do better than CGS. They are the funnest modules out
> there!!!!!!!
>
> Happy building!
> Scott Deyo
> The Bridechamber
> contact@...
> http://www.bridechamber.com
> Jealous Edison Record Kompany
> http://www.jealousedison.com
>
> On Jun 2, 2008, at 10:12 PM, Matt Patey wrote:
>
> > Hi everyone,
> >
> > I'm really looking forward to trying my hand at building some CGS
> > modules but am not sure where I should start. I have some experience
> > soldering but I don't have a background in electronics. I've been
> > considering doing DIY modules for a long time now, especially now
> that
> > I've spent a considerable amount of time with my pre-built modules.
> > I'd really like to start building a small entirely CGS-based system,
> > but I'm worried about choosing the best way to power the system and
> > getting front panels designed for all of the modules, not to mention
> > getting snagged on problems I don't understand. I suspect I'm being
> > somewhat ambitious, but I think you learn best through doing. That
> > said, do you think I'm taking on too much, or will I be rewarded
> by my
> > ambition? Any feedback is much appreciated, even if all I get back
> is
> > a URL that can give me some direction.
> >
> > Thanks so much.
> > Matt
> >
> >
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>

On Jun 3, 2008, at 11:05 AM, Matt Patey wrote:

> Hi Scott,
>
> Thanks for your reply. This group has offered me a warm welcome to the
> world of DIY and it's very encouraging for me to start building---I
> can't wait! My current system is mostly Blacet-based and at the moment
> I have most of the Blacet modules I want, so I'm looking for
> alternative modules that aren't already offered in his great lineup.
> I've been to your site numerous times and found a number of projects
> I'd like to start working on. Have you shipped to Canada before? Any
> idea how much shipping a few kits over here would cost?
>
> Thanks again for you reply.
>
> Kind regards,
> Matt
>
> On 3-Jun-08, at 9:48 AM, Scott Deyo wrote:
>
>> I think your first decision should be (unless you've made this one
>> already) which format you will build in.
>> There are lots of factors to consider, but that can be part of the fun
>> : )
>>
>> You mentioned a small system, so if size is your primary concern, you
>> could start with kits from
>> www.blacet.com
>> and CGS kits from
>> www.elby-designs.com
>>
>> These modules are "Euro" and "Frac" format -- 3U high w/ 1/8" jacks.
>>
>> I mention Blacet because it's a good place to "get your feet wet" if
>> you're nervous. Their kits are very easy and well-documented.
>>
>> Blacet has a nice rack system, and power supplies.
>>
>> The modularsynthpanels group would also be a good resource for getting
>> panels from Schaeffer/ FPE, or getting people to go in together on
>> some
>> panels (which is how that group started).
>>
>> If you like bigger stuff, my site
>> www.bridechamber.com
>> has a bunch of kits and such, and CGS panels.
>>
>> Those are "MOTM" format -- 5U high w/ 1/4" jacks.
>> The suggested power supply would be from www.synthtech.com
>>
>> And as far as being rewarded for your ambition...?
>> You can't do better than CGS. They are the funnest modules out
>> there!!!!!!!
>>
>> Happy building!
>> Scott Deyo
>> The Bridechamber
>> contact@...
>> http://www.bridechamber.com
>> Jealous Edison Record Kompany
>> http://www.jealousedison.com
>>
>> On Jun 2, 2008, at 10:12 PM, Matt Patey wrote:
>>
>>> Hi everyone,
>>>
>>> I'm really looking forward to trying my hand at building some CGS
>>> modules but am not sure where I should start. I have some experience
>>> soldering but I don't have a background in electronics. I've been
>>> considering doing DIY modules for a long time now, especially now
>> that
>>> I've spent a considerable amount of time with my pre-built modules.
>>> I'd really like to start building a small entirely CGS-based system,
>>> but I'm worried about choosing the best way to power the system and
>>> getting front panels designed for all of the modules, not to mention
>>> getting snagged on problems I don't understand. I suspect I'm being
>>> somewhat ambitious, but I think you learn best through doing. That
>>> said, do you think I'm taking on too much, or will I be rewarded
>> by my
>>> ambition? Any feedback is much appreciated, even if all I get back
>> is
>>> a URL that can give me some direction.
>>>
>>> Thanks so much.
>>> Matt
>>>
>>>
>>
>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> The CGS Modular Synth home page: http://www.cgs.synth.net/
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>