Re: [colorvision_group] Granger Chart - For evaluations
2006-03-15 by xun wang
... Just to append on what David said. It s not exactly the surface of the color, but rather the fully saturated version of the color. I like to think of the
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Re: [colorvision_group] Re: Epson Radient White Watercolor - Patches look really light
2006-03-15 by David Miller
... On the Epson 4800 with K3 inks, I get a density of 1.57 for black, using the standard Epson media setting for Watercolor. I ve done some test prints on
Re: Granger Chart - For evaluations
2006-03-15 by Tom
... command in Photoshop, ... command, and ... same with a ... profile has ... They also give a superficial view of how out of gamut colors are mapped by
Re: [colorvision_group] Re: Epson Radient White Watercolor - Patches look really light
2006-03-15 by CDTobie@aol.com
... On the other hand, its really fun to take a Monaco profile and print through it at Relative Colorimetric with Black Point Compensation OFF... and watch it
Re: Dumb Question time: How to profile a Picture Mate Printer?
2006-03-15 by Tom
... first question... Ok you got me there
Re: [colorvision_group] Granger Chart - For evaluations
2006-03-15 by CDTobie@aol.com
... files section, perhaps a bit of description is in order. Granger Rainbows are cross-color gradients in flat 2 dimensional image files. Since all the
Re: [colorvision_group] Re: Epson Radient White Watercolor - Patches look really light
2006-03-15 by xun wang
... It s better(safer) to leave it to OFF with for profiles built with PFP because as CD has pointed out, it s not a ICC standard and although most profiling
Re: [colorvision_group] Re: Dumb Question time: How to profile a Picture Mate Printer?
2006-03-15 by CDTobie@aol.com
... That was intended as an inclusive color : color scientist, and color software developer. That you develop software was clear from the first question...
Re: [colorvision_group] Granger Chart - For evaluations
2006-03-15 by CDTobie@aol.com
... That would be a much fairer usage... and is pretty much how I use rainbows and spectral gradients myself... ... Not exactly what I was saying. I was saying
Re: [colorvision_group] Re: Epson Radient White Watercolor - Patches look really light
2006-03-15 by CDTobie@aol.com
... I may not have been specific enough: I wasn t recommending RelCol, only recommending that, if you use RelCol, you be sure to not use BPC with it. ... I
Re: Granger Chart - For evaluations
2006-03-15 by Tom
... everything ... use it, ... in the ... there is ... I would say the rainbow is extremely unforgiving. Its like having a chainsaw ... be careful where you
Re: Dumb Question time: How to profile a Picture Mate Printer?
2006-03-15 by Tom
... Our own ... products as his ... the stuff that is ... be happy ... Actually I am a professional software developer (Java and large commercial database
Re: Granger Chart - For evaluations
2006-03-15 by Tom
... cause ... above may ... photographs, ... highly ... have little to do ... (laughing) Sorry ... they do serve a purpose but I can see how they would cause
Re: [colorvision_group] Re: Epson Radient White Watercolor - Patches look really light
2006-03-15 by CDTobie@aol.com
... I m not sure that I would call a d-max of 1.4 nice and dark, even for watercolor paper, but its better than some printers will produce with this media. I
Re: [colorvision_group] Granger Chart - For evaluations
2006-03-15 by xun wang
I disagree. The rainbow is very unforgiving I don t think what everything the rainbow reveals should be taken literally but if you know how to use it, it s
Re: [colorvision_group] Re: Dumb Question time: How to profile a Picture Mate Printer?
2006-03-15 by CDTobie@aol.com
... Others, on the other hand, seem to want to love it to death instead. Our own Tom T, on this list, appears determined to become a color scientist and
Re: [colorvision_group] Granger Chart - For evaluations
2006-03-15 by CDTobie@aol.com
... Personally I wish Ed had never invented these &$%&$% charts, as they cause more confusion than illumination among users. I think the warning above may
Re: Epson Radient White Watercolor - Patches look really light
2006-03-15 by Tom
... Black Point ... Does the combination of black point compensation and Perceptual intent weaken the blacks considerably?
Re: [colorvision_group] Epson Radient White Watercolor - Patches look really light
2006-03-15 by xun wang
PFP does work best with Saturation or Perpetual intent with the Black Point Compensation OFF. ... -- ... xun911@gmail.com www.xun-wang.com
Re: Epson Radient White Watercolor - Patches look really light
2006-03-15 by Tom
... using the b5 ... I get 1.4 with the R1800. Nice and dark.
Re: [colorvision_group] Epson Radient White Watercolor - Patches look really light
2006-03-15 by CDTobie@aol.com
... First, be sure you are printing on the coated side of the sheet; with some watercolor papers that can be a bit difficult to determine. Next, check with the
Re: Epson Radient White Watercolor - Patches look really light
2006-03-15 by Tom
... but ... That and the ink formulation for the R800/R1800 is quite different. We have extra carts for red and blue.
Re: Dumb Question time: How to profile a Picture Mate Printer?
2006-03-15 by eieiomoomooheremoomoothere
... because ... a very ... adjustment, so you ... the 150 or the ... without applying ... Preview ... of Photoshop. ... orientation. Read ... dialog in ... to
Re: [colorvision_group] Re: Epson Radient White Watercolor - Patches look really light
2006-03-15 by ken chow
I m using UC inks on a 4000, contrast and saturation are sub-optimal but I guess it would work for some types of images. My other problem after printing a
Gamut Chart
2006-03-15 by Tom
I threw up a gamut chart for evaluating subtle colors also. Again this is a mathematicaly generated chart so .. your milage will vary with paper/ink
Granger Chart - For evaluations
2006-03-15 by Tom
I put a basic Granger Chart in the files section for fun and experimentation. A word of caution though. Do not expect all colors to be printed correctly.
Re: Epson Radient White Watercolor - Patches look really light
2006-03-15 by Tom
... I ve used it for several landscape photographs. The contrast range isn t as high as some of the other papers but the texture and tones are pleasing to me.
Re: [colorvision_group] Epson Radient White Watercolor - Patches look really light
2006-03-15 by ken chow
Tom, I hope you get your magenta splash problem fixed. What type of images do you use RW Watercolor for? I used it for the first time last night after
Re: Matching dual monitors with Spyder2 Pro - homegrown solution
2006-03-15 by Tom
... So we ... get it ... Printing with 16bit channels certainly helps to keep the banding down in the saturated colors ... at least when the ink isnt
Re: [colorvision_group] Re: Matching dual monitors with Spyder2 Pro - homegrown solution
2006-03-15 by CDTobie@aol.com
... High bit cards are common. High bit throughput is not yet available. So we need to wait for the card manufactures, and the OS developers, to get it
Re: Matching dual monitors- CALL FOR HELP
2006-03-15 by Tom
... The problem is under the current version of windows you can *calibrate* both displays on a *single* graphics card with dual heads but you can t *profile*
Re: [colorvision_group] Dumb Question time: How to profile a Picture Mate Printer?
2006-03-15 by CDTobie@aol.com
... The PictureMate driver has no setting to turn off color adjustment, so you have to profile on top of the default Epson settings. Take either the 150 or the
Matching dual monitors- CALL FOR HELP
2006-03-15 by Kris
wow, this thread died quckly... Was it me? Lots of opinions, no experts? This is the fastest growning group on Yahoo, it seems there might be a Windows expert
RE: [colorvision_group] Re: Ink Splashes - any good tips?
2006-03-15 by Kris
Tom, exactly right. I just posted a reply, if you don t want to buy something really expensive like 3m microfiber or KimWipes (cheap but you have to use about
RE: [colorvision_group] Re: Ink Splashes - any good tips?
2006-03-15 by Kris
Randy, be careful about using paper towels. two problems, one is they might leave more fibres on the printhead than you ve removed as gunk. Lastly, paper is
Re: [colorvision_group] Ink Splashes - any good tips?
2006-03-15 by randy
Good point Kris, never thought of that. Randy
RE: [colorvision_group] Ink Splashes - any good tips?
2006-03-15 by Kris
get rid of the dog. With our wide format printers, I take a microfiber cloth (3m makes a great one), soak it with Windex (the original flavor), and
Re: [colorvision_group] Re: Ink Splashes - any good tips?
2006-03-15 by randy
I just grab both ends after folding it a few times, and shimmy it under my 7600 head and swab back and forth a dozen times. Then wrap it around the print head
RE: [colorvision_group] Dumb Question time: How to profile a Picture Mate Printer?
2006-03-15 by Kris
just like any other printer, except you ll use a TON of paper. when you have to switch inks, you have to rely on the consistency of Epson s ink, but it s
[colorvision_group] RGB Gain Adjustments on LCDs
2006-03-15 by CDTobie@aol.com
... This may be more than you want to hear, but the last issue has left me feeling like I need to cover all the bases, so that it doesn t become a political
Re: [colorvision_group] Re: Ink Splashes - any good tips?
2006-03-15 by randy
Really hasn t for me. The paper towel is really saturated. But I agree that the tape probably is a better solution. Randy Laskody
Re: Ink Splashes - any good tips?
2006-03-15 by Tom
... purpose. I ... I d be afraid the fibers in the paper towel would compound the problem.
Re: [colorvision_group] Re: Ink Splashes - any good tips?
2006-03-15 by randy
I have used windex and high quality paper towels for the same purpose. I like the sound of this method though. Randy Laskody
Re: Matching dual monitors with Spyder2 Pro - homegrown solution
2006-03-15 by Tom
... second videocard, ... monitors ... match... Are the DACs in the video cards out there pretty much the same? The other day I had wondered if there were
Re: [colorvision_group] Re: Matching dual monitors with Spyder2 Pro - homegrown solution
2006-03-15 by CDTobie@aol.com
... No, its not. If they are a matched pair, and haven t faded to differing states, then it is a good compromise, but for the cost of a cheap second videocard,
Re: [colorvision_group] Re: Matching dual monitors with Spyder2 Pro - homegrown solution
2006-03-15 by CDTobie@aol.com
... The corrections you see when this process occurs has nothing to do with applying the second profile, but rather with flashing the video card curves
Re: Ink Splashes - any good tips?
2006-03-15 by Johnny Eades
Tom, Here is the solution that I use for the same conditions. Send the print head to the position you normally use for removing your carts. Cut a piece of bias
Epson Radient White Watercolor - Patches look really light
2006-03-15 by Tom
Other than the magenta splashes last night I noticed that the first several patches shown in split mode on Epson RW Watercolor for the 700+ patch target look
Ink Splashes - any good tips?
2006-03-15 by Tom
Ok here s a frustrating problem. Maybe some of you have found good solutions. My printer is printing magenta splashes. Something may have gotten under the
Re: [colorvision_group] Re: Matching dual monitors with Spyder2 Pro - homegrown solution
2006-03-15 by Bob Frost
I use the Win Color Applet to switch between profiles for my computer and projector that are both connected to my Radeon 9800 Pro dual-head card, but I can