Datacolor User to User Support Group.

First of all, I am a complete novice at this and may be in the wrong
place to ask this question.  If so, let me know and I'll try someplace
else.

I have a six-month-old iMac and a three-month-old Canon Pixma MP800. 
I purchased Spyder2 Suite and calibrated my monitor without problem.
Spyder2 Suite comes with PrintFix Plus, not Pro, and I think the idea
is that instead of actually calibrating your printer you use
approximations based on "ICCs" provided by Colorvision in the software.  

From the documentation: "Users will typically select the PrintFIX PLUS
target choice that most closely matches their printer, ink, and paper
combination, and use the media type setting associated with it."

So, for instance, you pick an ICC like "Epson Model XYZ" used with
"Really Really Glossy No. 888" and that sets your color. Is that right??

Anyway, that would be great except that they do not provide an "ICC"
for my printer.  I contacted the local (Hong Kong) dealer about this
and he basically told me to just experiment with those ICCs provided
in the software. Since you must print multiple examples to check each
result for each paper you use, this would be very expensive and time
consuming which I pointed out to him. No answer since, so I went to
the Web site and looked but couldn't really find any information to
help me.

What can I do now? Do I need to buy PrintFix Pro? I'm not doing this
as a professional printer so I don't want to spend a fortune.  I just
want my prints to look somewhat like my screen, or vice versa.

Thank you,

Craig

Craig, PrintFix Pro certainly will do what you're wanting to do, and the
price is great compared to some of the high-end color management packages.  

You might also check into having a profile made by a service.  They range
from $50 to $100, and you basically print their target file and send them
the print(s).  They generate a profile and email or mail it to you.  Maybe
some others here can recommend a good place to have this done.  

If you took the time, you would probably find a 'close' profile as another
printer model, but it might take a bit of ink, time, and there's no
guarantee that another profile will work with your printer.

What printer do you have?

-kris

> -----Original Message-----
> From: colorvision_group@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:colorvision_group@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of craigblurton
> Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 10:34 PM
> To: colorvision_group@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [colorvision_group] Baffles me
> 
> First of all, I am a complete novice at this and may be in the wrong
> place to ask this question.  If so, let me know and I'll try someplace
> else.
> 
> I have a six-month-old iMac and a three-month-old Canon Pixma MP800.
> I purchased Spyder2 Suite and calibrated my monitor without problem.
> Spyder2 Suite comes with PrintFix Plus, not Pro, and I think the idea
> is that instead of actually calibrating your printer you use
> approximations based on "ICCs" provided by Colorvision in the software.
> 
> From the documentation: "Users will typically select the PrintFIX PLUS
> target choice that most closely matches their printer, ink, and paper
> combination, and use the media type setting associated with it."
> 
> So, for instance, you pick an ICC like "Epson Model XYZ" used with
> "Really Really Glossy No. 888" and that sets your color. Is that
> right??
> 
> Anyway, that would be great except that they do not provide an "ICC"
> for my printer.  I contacted the local (Hong Kong) dealer about this
> and he basically told me to just experiment with those ICCs provided in
> the software. Since you must print multiple examples to check each
> result for each paper you use, this would be very expensive and time
> consuming which I pointed out to him. No answer since, so I went to the
> Web site and looked but couldn't really find any information to help
> me.
> 
> What can I do now? Do I need to buy PrintFix Pro? I'm not doing this as
> a professional printer so I don't want to spend a fortune.  I just want
> my prints to look somewhat like my screen, or vice versa.
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> Craig

Hi Chris:

Thanks for the information.  Do you have a URL for the services that
provide profiles?  Do you need just one or one for every paper you
use?  The printer I'm using is a Canon Pixma MP800.  I bought it about
2-3 months ago.

Thank you,

Craig


--- In colorvision_group@yahoogroups.com, "Kris" <km-yahoo@...> wrote:
>
> Craig, PrintFix Pro certainly will do what you're wanting to do, and the
> price is great compared to some of the high-end color management
packages.  
> 
> You might also check into having a profile made by a service.  They
range
> from $50 to $100, and you basically print their target file and send
them
> the print(s).  They generate a profile and email or mail it to you.
 Maybe
> some others here can recommend a good place to have this done.  
> 
> If you took the time, you would probably find a 'close' profile as
another
> printer model, but it might take a bit of ink, time, and there's no
> guarantee that another profile will work with your printer.
> 
> What printer do you have?
> 
> -kris
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: colorvision_group@yahoogroups.com
> > [mailto:colorvision_group@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of craigblurton
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 10:34 PM
> > To: colorvision_group@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [colorvision_group] Baffles me
> > 
> > First of all, I am a complete novice at this and may be in the wrong
> > place to ask this question.  If so, let me know and I'll try someplace
> > else.
> > 
> > I have a six-month-old iMac and a three-month-old Canon Pixma MP800.
> > I purchased Spyder2 Suite and calibrated my monitor without problem.
> > Spyder2 Suite comes with PrintFix Plus, not Pro, and I think the idea
> > is that instead of actually calibrating your printer you use
> > approximations based on "ICCs" provided by Colorvision in the
software.
> > 
> > From the documentation: "Users will typically select the PrintFIX PLUS
> > target choice that most closely matches their printer, ink, and paper
> > combination, and use the media type setting associated with it."
> > 
> > So, for instance, you pick an ICC like "Epson Model XYZ" used with
> > "Really Really Glossy No. 888" and that sets your color. Is that
> > right??
> > 
> > Anyway, that would be great except that they do not provide an "ICC"
> > for my printer.  I contacted the local (Hong Kong) dealer about this
> > and he basically told me to just experiment with those ICCs
provided in
> > the software. Since you must print multiple examples to check each
> > result for each paper you use, this would be very expensive and time
> > consuming which I pointed out to him. No answer since, so I went
to the
> > Web site and looked but couldn't really find any information to help
> > me.
> > 
> > What can I do now? Do I need to buy PrintFix Pro? I'm not doing
this as
> > a professional printer so I don't want to spend a fortune.  I just
want

> > my prints to look somewhat like my screen, or vice versa.
> > 
> > Thank you,
> > 
> > Craig
>

Hi David:

Thanks for the information. I'll keep my eye on the Website for the
updates. I hope the update of PrintFIX Plus includes the Canon Pixma
MP800 printer!

Best wishes,

Craig

--- In colorvision_group@yahoogroups.com, David Miller <dm2363@...> wrote:
>
> Craig,
> 
> A new release of PrintFIX PRO and PLUS software, version 1.1.1, should
> be appearing on the ColorVision web site within the next few days,
> possibly as early as tomorrow. The set of pre-measured PLUS targets has
> been greatly expanded. We'll post a more detailed note about this
here on
> the list as soon as the installers have been moved to the web servers.
> 
> David Miller
> Senior Software Developer, Digital Color Solutions
> ColorVision
> 
> 
> >First of all, I am a complete novice at this and may be in the wrong
> >place to ask this question. If so, let me know and I'll try someplace
> >else.
> >
> >I have a six-month-old iMac and a three-month-old Canon Pixma MP800.
> >I purchased Spyder2 Suite and calibrated my monitor without problem.
> >Spyder2 Suite comes with PrintFix Plus, not Pro, and I think the idea
> >is that instead of actually calibrating your printer you use
> >approximations based on "ICCs" provided by Colorvision in the software.
> >
> >From the documentation: "Users will typically select the PrintFIX PLUS
> >target choice that most closely matches their printer, ink, and paper
> >combination, and use the media type setting associated with it."
> >
> >So, for instance, you pick an ICC like "Epson Model XYZ" used with
> >"Really Really Glossy No. 888" and that sets your color. Is that
right??

> >
> >Anyway, that would be great except that they do not provide an "ICC"
> >for my printer. I contacted the local (Hong Kong) dealer about this
> >and he basically told me to just experiment with those ICCs provided
> >in the software. Since you must print multiple examples to check each
> >result for each paper you use, this would be very expensive and time
> >consuming which I pointed out to him. No answer since, so I went to
> >the Web site and looked but couldn't really find any information to
> >help me.
> >
> >What can I do now? Do I need to buy PrintFix Pro? I'm not doing this
> >as a professional printer so I don't want to spend a fortune. I just
> >want my prints to look somewhat like my screen, or vice versa.
> >
> >Thank you,
> >
> >Craig
> >
> >
>

I think these people will for $25.00 if you buy some paper from them. 

Randy

craigblurton wrote:

> Hi Chris:
>
> Thanks for the information.  Do you have a URL for the services that
> provide profiles?  Do you need just one or one for every paper you
> use?  The printer I'm using is a Canon Pixma MP800.  I bought it about
> 2-3 months ago.
>
> Thank you,
>
> Craig
>
>
>   
>

http://www.inkjetart.com/

Forgot the link.

randy wrote:

> I think these people will for $25.00 if you buy some paper from them. 
>
> Randy
>
> craigblurton wrote:
>   
>> Hi Chris:
>>
>> Thanks for the information.  Do you have a URL for the services that
>> provide profiles?  Do you need just one or one for every paper you
>> use?  The printer I'm using is a Canon Pixma MP800.  I bought it about
>> 2-3 months ago.
>>
>> Thank you,
>>
>> Craig
>>
>>
>>   
>>   
>>     
>
>
>
>  
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>  
>
>
>
>
>
>

Hi everyone:

We've just released the 1.1.1 software versions, and you can download
them from the ColorVision US web site here:

http://www.colorvision.com/sup_dl-upgrades.shtml


Note that there are 4 installers here: PRO for both platforms; and PLUS
for both platforms.

Download and run the installer that is appropriate for your installation,
and use your current PRO or PLUS serial number when you launch version 1.1.1
for the first time. PRO users: make a backup copy of your existing measurement
files before running the installer, just to be safe (they are in the :Data:PRO
folder).

We'll post a complete list of update notes later in the day. The main changes
here are:

- Expanded list of PLUS targets

- No more stability issues with Windows printer drivers (this affected a
small number of users with HP printers)

- New Info command shows details about measurement files. Read-only for
PLUS users. PRO users can edit certain details and resave, either over the
existing measurement file or into a new measurement file.


-- 
David Miller
Senior Software Developer, Digital Color Solutions
ColorVision

--- In colorvision_group@yahoogroups.com, David Miller <dm2363@...> 
wrote:
>
> Hi everyone:
> 
> We've just released the 1.1.1 software versions, and you can download
> them from the ColorVision US web site here:
> 
> http://www.colorvision.com/sup_dl-upgrades.shtml
> 
> 
>
Why so slow downloading? Is it regular?
Thanks

Luca

Mine keeps hanging also.
Randy

lcafieroarmando wrote:

> --- In colorvision_group@yahoogroups.com, David Miller <dm2363@...> 
> wrote:
>   
>> Hi everyone:
>>
>> We've just released the 1.1.1 software versions, and you can download
>> them from the ColorVision US web site here:
>>
>> http://www.colorvision.com/sup_dl-upgrades.shtml
>>
>>
>>
>>     
> Why so slow downloading? Is it regular?
> Thanks
>
> Luca 
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>  
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>  
>
>
>
>
>
>

--- In colorvision_group@yahoogroups.com, David Miller
wrote:
>
> Hi everyone:
>
> We've just released the 1.1.1 software versions, and you can download
> them from the ColorVision US web site here:
>
> http://www.colorvision.com/sup_dl-upgrades.shtml
>
>
>

Why so slow downloading? Is it regular?

-- 

>>Why so slow downloading? Is it regular?

We have not yet moved to our new servers, so it is indeed slow, but it 
is also large, since its now nine languages...

C. David Tobie
Product Technology Manager
ColorVision, Inc.
CDTobie@...
www.colorvision.com

-----Original Message-----
From: lcafieroarmando <lcafiero@...>
To: colorvision_group@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 16:10:53 -0000
Subject: [colorvision_group] Re: PrintFIX PRO and PLUS 1.1.1 Installers 
are now available

   --- In colorvision_group@yahoogroups.com, David Miller <dm2363@...>
wrote:
>
> Hi everyone:
>
> We've just released the 1.1.1 software versions, and you can download
> them from the ColorVision US web site here:
>
> http://www.colorvision.com/sup_dl-upgrades.shtml
>
>
>
Why so slow downloading? Is it regular?
Thanks

Luca








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--- In colorvision_group@yahoogroups.com, randy <rlphoto@...> wrote:
>
> Mine keeps hanging also.
> Randy
> 
> > >>     
> > Why so slow downloading? Is it regular?
> > Thanks
> >
> > Luca 
>
Now all ok,I've downloaded in few minutes.In the first attempt the 
time has been more than one hour and the download stopped at 140 MB.
I've cancelled and tried again and all quick and clear.

Luca

Hi David et. al.:

Now I know I am truly out of my depth.  I got the following email from
David's company this morning (Hong Kong time):

-----------------------------------
It looks like the Canon Pixma is a CMYK printer if that is so, then
PrintFIX Pro will not support it. Unless, the Canon comes with RGB
drivers.

Thank you,

Elana Leventhal
ColorVision US Customer Support
http://www.colorvision.com
1-800-554-8688
-----------------------------------

So, it would appear that I cannot use PrintFIX Plus to get my printer
and my monitor in closer color agreement. I have no idea what the
difference is between a "CMYK" and a "RGB" printer but I damn sure
would have bought an RGB printer if I knew I wasn't going to be able
to get color matching prints from this set-up!  Too late now. It is a
brand new printer and I cannot afford to buy another one.

If anyone knows of anything else I can do to solve this problem aside
from making adjustments for each print I make by trial and error,
printing it, then making more adjustments, etc. etc. I would be very
appreciative to hear it.

Thanks,

Craig



-- In colorvision_group@yahoogroups.com, David Miller <dm2363@...> wrote:
>
> Craig,
> 
> A new release of PrintFIX PRO and PLUS software, version 1.1.1, should
> be appearing on the ColorVision web site within the next few days,
> possibly as early as tomorrow. The set of pre-measured PLUS targets has
> been greatly expanded. We'll post a more detailed note about this
here on
> the list as soon as the installers have been moved to the web servers.
> 
> David Miller
> Senior Software Developer, Digital Color Solutions
> ColorVision
> 
> 
> >First of all, I am a complete novice at this and may be in the wrong
> >place to ask this question. If so, let me know and I'll try someplace
> >else.
> >
> >I have a six-month-old iMac and a three-month-old Canon Pixma MP800.
> >I purchased Spyder2 Suite and calibrated my monitor without problem.
> >Spyder2 Suite comes with PrintFix Plus, not Pro, and I think the idea
> >is that instead of actually calibrating your printer you use
> >approximations based on "ICCs" provided by Colorvision in the software.
> >
> >From the documentation: "Users will typically select the PrintFIX PLUS
> >target choice that most closely matches their printer, ink, and paper
> >combination, and use the media type setting associated with it."
> >
> >So, for instance, you pick an ICC like "Epson Model XYZ" used with
> >"Really Really Glossy No. 888" and that sets your color. Is that
right??

> >
> >Anyway, that would be great except that they do not provide an "ICC"
> >for my printer. I contacted the local (Hong Kong) dealer about this
> >and he basically told me to just experiment with those ICCs provided
> >in the software. Since you must print multiple examples to check each
> >result for each paper you use, this would be very expensive and time
> >consuming which I pointed out to him. No answer since, so I went to
> >the Web site and looked but couldn't really find any information to
> >help me.
> >
> >What can I do now? Do I need to buy PrintFix Pro? I'm not doing this
> >as a professional printer so I don't want to spend a fortune. I just
> >want my prints to look somewhat like my screen, or vice versa.
> >
> >Thank you,
> >
> >Craig
> >
> >
>

Hi David et. al.:

Now I know I am truly out of my depth. I got the following email from
David's company this morning (Hong Kong time):

-----------------------------------
It looks like the Canon Pixma is a CMYK printer if that is so, then
PrintFIX Pro will not support it. Unless, the Canon comes with RGB
drivers.

Thank you,

Elana Leventhal
ColorVision US Customer Support
http://www.colorvision.com
1-800-554-8688
-----------------------------------

So, it would appear that I cannot use PrintFIX Plus to get my printer
and my monitor in closer color agreement. I have no idea what the
difference is between a "CMYK" and a "RGB" printer but I damn sure
would have bought an RGB printer if I knew I wasn't going to be able
to get color matching prints from this set-up! Too late now. It is a
brand new printer and I cannot afford to buy another one.

If anyone knows of anything else I can do to solve this problem aside
from making adjustments for each print I make by trial and error,
printing it, then making more adjustments, etc. etc. I would be very

appreciative to hear it.

-- 

Dear David:

I can't tell you how much I appreciate your help. I am happy to know
that I can use PrintFIX Plus with my printer. Your explanation about
how to use it is very clear. I will give it a go and see what I can do
to bring my equipment into closer agreement.  I may be back with more
questions, such as how do I get my office set-up, which is an exact
duplicate of my home set-up (new iMac and Canon MP800), to be in
agreement!

Thanks again.  I hope your boss is aware of the great customer service
you provide in this forum.

Best wishes,

Craig

>>"I can't tell you how much I appreciate your help.<clip>  I hope your 
boss is aware of the great customer service
you provide in this forum."

Very aware of it, and grateful as well. Not just for his work on this 
forum, but on product development!

C. David Tobie
Product Technology Manager
ColorVision, Inc.
CDTobie@...
www.colorvision.com
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>Dear David:
>
>I can't tell you how much I appreciate your help.

You're welcome!

>I am happy to know
>that I can use PrintFIX Plus with my printer. Your explanation about
>how to use it is very clear. I will give it a go and see what I can do
>to bring my equipment into closer agreement. I may be back with more
>questions, such as how do I get my office set-up, which is an exact
>duplicate of my home set-up (new iMac and Canon MP800), to be in
>agreement!

If you have more questions, David Tobie and I will always be here to
answer them....:-)



Best regards,

-- 
David Miller
Senior Software Developer, Digital Color Solutions
ColorVision