Datacolor User to User Support Group.

Working in PrintFixPro v2.2 I have been trying to tidy up ands
reorganise my misnamed profiles using the View Profiles feature.
(Brill) But, after shutting down PFP and rebooting my machine (Win XP)
the renamed profiles don't show up in the Photoshop CS2 profiling
choices. Yet, when I create a new profile in PFP and restart CS2 the
new profiles appear OK in the PFP view profiles and in CS2.

Can anyone offer a solution?

Thanks

There are a couple, non-PFP, solutions for you to rename profiles...

One is ICC Profile toolkit at:
http://www.tlbtlb.com/links/ 

The other is using the MS Color applet:
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=1e33dca0-7721-
43ca-9174-7f8d429fbb9e&displaylang=en 

Both are easy to use.  I currently use the MS Color Applet for a number 
of reasons.  Not only will it change names of profiles, but it helps 
find them more easily (MS knows where the are), it can delete profiles 
I no longer need, and I also use it to help manage/check on my dual 
display profiles.

John
--- In colorvision_group@yahoogroups.com, "John Malcolm" 
<johnmalcolm@...> wrote:

>
> Working in PrintFixPro v2.2 I have been trying to tidy up ands
> reorganise my misnamed profiles using the View Profiles feature.
> (Brill) But, after shutting down PFP and rebooting my machine (Win XP)
> the renamed profiles don't show up in the Photoshop CS2 profiling
> choices. Yet, when I create a new profile in PFP and restart CS2 the
> new profiles appear OK in the PFP view profiles and in CS2.
> 
> Can anyone offer a solution?
> 
> Thanks
>

>Working in PrintFixPro v2.2 I have been trying to tidy up ands
>reorganise my misnamed profiles using the View Profiles feature.
>(Brill) But, after shutting down PFP and rebooting my machine (Win XP)
>the renamed profiles don't show up in the Photoshop CS2 profiling
>choices. Yet, when I create a new profile in PFP and restart CS2 the
>new profiles appear OK in the PFP view profiles and in CS2.
>
>Can anyone offer a solution?
>

Profiles have both an external (file) name and an internal name.

When PFP (and other 3rd party profiling software) creates a profile,
it uses the same name inside the profile and also as the file name.

Photoshop and other color managed applications don't show the FILE
name in their popups; they use the INTERNAL name.

If you rename the file at the OS level (which is what you're describing),
this doesn't affect the names of the profiles that are shown in Photoshop's
popups because those are still the INTERNAL names inside the profiles
themselves, which you haven't changed.

So: how can you -truly- change the name of a profile (both external,
and internal)?

If you're on a Mac using OSX, Apple's ColorSync Utility will let you do
this. Launch it from Applications:Utilities; click on the Profiles icon
in the toolbar; find your profile in either the User or Computer sections
of the twist-down list on the left; double-click on it. You'll get another
window that shows more detailed information about the profile; there's a
list of "tags" at the top of the window. Scroll down in that list until
you find the "desc" tag at the bottom (it should be #11); this is the
internal name of the profile. The ASCII Name field will contain the text
that's both the internal name of the profile and the external file name.
You can edit it directly here (leave the .icc extension as-is, just change
the name of the profile). When you're done, hit Return, and click the Close
box for the window; you should be prompted about saving changes to the
profile; click the Save button; ColorSync Utility will then change both the
internal name and external (file) name of the profile for you.

If you're running Windows, you may need to use a 3rd party utility to do
this.

Best regards,




-- 
David Miller
Senior Software Developer, Digital Color Solutions
ColorVision

> If you're running Windows, you may need to use a 3rd party utility 
to do
> this.


One is ICC Profile toolkit at:
http://www.tlbtlb.com/links/

The other is using the MS Color applet:
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=1e33dca0-
7721-
43ca-9174-7f8d429fbb9e&displaylang=en

Both of these will allow you to change the "internal" name.  

MS Color applet allows changing both external and internal at same 
time or just thhe internal.  Right click on the profile name to see 
options.


John


--- In colorvision_group@yahoogroups.com, David Miller <dm2363@...> 
wrote:
>
> >Working in PrintFixPro v2.2 I have been trying to tidy up ands
> >reorganise my misnamed profiles using the View Profiles feature.
> >(Brill) But, after shutting down PFP and rebooting my machine (Win 
XP)
> >the renamed profiles don't show up in the Photoshop CS2 profiling
> >choices. Yet, when I create a new profile in PFP and restart CS2 
the
> >new profiles appear OK in the PFP view profiles and in CS2.
> >
> >Can anyone offer a solution?
> >
> 
> Profiles have both an external (file) name and an internal name.
> 
> When PFP (and other 3rd party profiling software) creates a profile,
> it uses the same name inside the profile and also as the file name.
> 
> Photoshop and other color managed applications don't show the FILE
> name in their popups; they use the INTERNAL name.
> 
> If you rename the file at the OS level (which is what you're 
describing),
> this doesn't affect the names of the profiles that are shown in 
Photoshop's
> popups because those are still the INTERNAL names inside the 
profiles
> themselves, which you haven't changed.
> 
> So: how can you -truly- change the name of a profile (both external,
> and internal)?
> 
> If you're on a Mac using OSX, Apple's ColorSync Utility will let 
you do
> this. Launch it from Applications:Utilities; click on the Profiles 
icon
> in the toolbar; find your profile in either the User or Computer 
sections
> of the twist-down list on the left; double-click on it. You'll get 
another
> window that shows more detailed information about the profile; 
there's a
> list of "tags" at the top of the window. Scroll down in that list 
until
> you find the "desc" tag at the bottom (it should be #11); this is 
the
> internal name of the profile. The ASCII Name field will contain the 
text
> that's both the internal name of the profile and the external file 
name.
> You can edit it directly here (leave the .icc extension as-is, just 
change
> the name of the profile). When you're done, hit Return, and click 
the Close
> box for the window; you should be prompted about saving changes to 
the
> profile; click the Save button; ColorSync Utility will then change 
both the
> internal name and external (file) name of the profile for you.
> 
> If you're running Windows, you may need to use a 3rd party utility 
to do

> this.
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> David Miller
> Senior Software Developer, Digital Color Solutions
> ColorVision
>

Hi,

 

When we have calibrated our display to gamma 2.2, 6500K, white luminance
90cd/m2 and black luminance to 0.3cd/m2 and then open the colorimeter window
to measure the color temperature of white, the reading show 5500 odd Kelvin
and not 6500k. Is there something that I am doing wrong?

 

 

Regards

 

Eesh Dewan

In a message dated 5/7/07 3:13:00 AM, eeshdewan@... writes:


> When we have calibrated our display to gamma 2.2, 6500K, white luminance 
> 90cd/m2 and black luminance to 0.3cd/m2 and then open the colorimeter window to 
> measure the color temperature of white, the reading show 5500 odd Kelvin and 
> not 6500k. Is there something that I am doing wrong?
> 

It sounds like the colorimeter window is not measuring your calibrated 
whitepoint, but your native whitepoint. Calibrate your monitor, go to the Before and 
After screen at the end of the software, open the colorimeter window, and 
check the K value in both before, and in after, mode. 

Keep in mind that Kelvin   values are highly leveraged, and that a variation 
of hundreds of K points can be as little as .003 difference in measured xyY 
values. This means that end user spectros and colorimeters (and to a suprising 
degree, even laboratory devices) are not capable of working down to the 100k 
level, as large a number as that sounds. Frankly, K measurements should be 
reported to the nearest 500K, not the nearest 1K, to reflect the actual value of 
the measurements. 6 and a half thousand K as the next unit from 6 thousand would 
be more reasonable units of measurement. Adding all those extra units makes 
end users assume that the tolerances are actually that close.

C. David Tobie
Product Technology Manager
ColorVision Business Unit
Datacolor Inc.
CDTobie@...
www.colorvision.com


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