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Advice about Spyder3 Studio

2009-06-23 by a1ncsky2

As suggested I tried to expand the size of the target using settings in the Epson 2200 Page Setup. There isn't any direct way to set the margins that I can see. Checking the "Minimize Margins" box has no effect on the target size.

So, I need to resize in Photoshop.

So, I looked in C:\Program Files\Datacolor\Spyder3Print and the only folder I could find with targets was, of course Targets. However, in that folder the only version of the 225 patch target is 92 ppi. Is that ok? Also, it seemed to have patch J10 outlined in black.

Am I looking at the right target print file? If not where is it?

I sized it up in PS anyway and printed it out. It looks the same as the original sized print. I printed it using Document as source and No Color Management. When I opened it in PS I left it As Is, instead of converting to Adobe.

I'd like to make this work since it looks like patch measurement would be much easier.

I use Win XP Pro SP3.

Re: [datacolor_group] Advice about Spyder3 Studio

2009-06-23 by CDTobie


So, I looked in C:\Program Files\Datacolor\Spyder3Print and the only folder I 
could find with targets was, of course Targets. However, in that folder the only 
version of the 225 patch target is 92 ppi. Is that ok? Also, it seemed to have 
patch J10 outlined in black.
Resolution doesn't matter for printing flat patches... and a black outline on the white patch just lets you know the patch is there...

C. David Tobie
Global Product Technology Manager
Digital Imaging & Home Theater
Datacolor
CDTobie@...
www.datacolor.com/Spyder3


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Subject: [datacolor_group] Advice about Spyder3 Studio

As suggested I tried to expand the size of the target using settings in the 
Epson 2200 Page Setup. There isn't any direct way to set the margins that I can 
see. Checking the "Minimize Margins" box has no effect on the target size.

So, I need to resize in Photoshop.

So, I looked in C:\Program Files\Datacolor\Spyder3Print and the only folder I 
could find with targets was, of course Targets. However, in that folder the only 
version of the 225 patch target is 92 ppi. Is that ok? Also, it seemed to have 
patch J10 outlined in black.

Am I looking at the right target print file? If not where is it?

I sized it up in PS anyway and printed it out. It looks the same as the original 
sized print. I printed it using Document as source and No Color Management. When 
I opened it in PS I left it As Is, instead of converting to Adobe.

I'd like to make this work since it looks like patch measurement would be much 
easier.

I use Win XP Pro SP3.



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Re: [datacolor_group] Advice about Spyder3 Studio

2009-06-23 by Christoph Fischer

crop the original target and ev. change the text to only one row and
ev. move it, select the driver (or page settings) with 3mm border on
every side (on Macos German it is the "maximal" version)  or borderless
(take care!), in photoshop preview use "Minimize Margins". this way i
got really larger patches. the resolution is not important, in my opinion.
J10 is paperwhite

christoph


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Tue, 23 Jun 2009 19:50:27 +0000 / [datacolor_group] Advice about Spyder3
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>As suggested I tried to expand the size of the target using settings in
>the Epson 2200 Page Setup. There isn't any direct way to set the margins
>that I can see. Checking the "Minimize Margins" box has no effect on the
>target size.
>
>So, I need to resize in Photoshop.
>
>So, I looked in C:\Program Files\Datacolor\Spyder3Print and the only
>folder I could find with targets was, of course Targets. However, in
>that folder the only version of the 225 patch target is 92 ppi. Is that
>ok? Also, it seemed to have patch J10 outlined in black.
>
>Am I looking at the right target print file? If not where is it?
>
>I sized it up in PS anyway and printed it out. It looks the same as the
>original sized print. I printed it using Document as source and No Color
>Management. When I opened it in PS I left it As Is, instead of
>converting to Adobe.
>
>I'd like to make this work since it looks like patch measurement would
>be much easier.
>
>I use Win XP Pro SP3.
>
>
>

Re: Advice about Spyder3 Studio

2009-06-23 by a1ncsky2

Thanks Christoph - I went back to the Epson driver dialog and see how to fix the margins. Silly of me. It's just always in the past I do the image sizing in Photoshop which for obvious reasons, is usually the best.

Pat

--- In datacolor_group@yahoogroups.com, "Christoph Fischer" <tarqeq@...> wrote:
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>
>  crop the original target and ev. change the text to only one row and
> ev. move it, select the driver (or page settings) with 3mm border on
> every side (on Macos German it is the "maximal" version)  or borderless
> (take care!), in photoshop preview use "Minimize Margins". this way i
> got really larger patches. the resolution is not important, in my opinion.
> J10 is paperwhite
> 
> christoph
> 
> 
> ---original message---
> a1ncsky2  / mcguipe@...
> Tue, 23 Jun 2009 19:50:27 +0000 / [datacolor_group] Advice about Spyder3
> Studio
> 
> >As suggested I tried to expand the size of the target using settings in
> >the Epson 2200 Page Setup. There isn't any direct way to set the margins
> >that I can see. Checking the "Minimize Margins" box has no effect on the
> >target size.
> >
> >So, I need to resize in Photoshop.
> >
> >So, I looked in C:\Program Files\Datacolor\Spyder3Print and the only
> >folder I could find with targets was, of course Targets. However, in
> >that folder the only version of the 225 patch target is 92 ppi. Is that
> >ok? Also, it seemed to have patch J10 outlined in black.
> >
> >Am I looking at the right target print file? If not where is it?
> >
> >I sized it up in PS anyway and printed it out. It looks the same as the
> >original sized print. I printed it using Document as source and No Color
> >Management. When I opened it in PS I left it As Is, instead of
> >converting to Adobe.
> >
> >I'd like to make this work since it looks like patch measurement would
> >be much easier.
> >
> >I use Win XP Pro SP3.
> >
> >
> >
>

RE: [datacolor_group] Advice about Spyder3 Studio

2009-06-26 by Bob and Carol Schoner

Hi,

 

I've been following this thread and have some questions.  What do you mean
when you say "Print through Windows"? Is this the same as printing from the
Spyder3 Print software?  When I print through the Spyder3 Print software I
do not get the black outlined box (J10) but I do get the outline when I
print through QImage. Do you know why I don't get the black outline when I
print through Spyder3 Print (Yes, I'm using the 3.5b Beta version).

 

Thanks,

 

Bob Schoner

 

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Subject: Re: [datacolor_group] Advice about Spyder3 Studio

 






So, I looked in C:\Program Files\Datacolor\Spyder3Print and the only folder
I 
could find with targets was, of course Targets. However, in that folder the
only 
version of the 225 patch target is 92 ppi. Is that ok? Also, it seemed to
have 
patch J10 outlined in black.

Resolution doesn't matter for printing flat patches... and a black outline
on the white patch just lets you know the patch is there...

C. David Tobie
Global Product Technology Manager
Digital Imaging & Home Theater
Datacolor
CDTobie@...
www.datacolor.com/Spyder3



-----Original Message-----
From: a1ncsky2 <mcguipe@...>
To: datacolor_group@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, Jun 23, 2009 3:50 pm
Subject: [datacolor_group] Advice about Spyder3 Studio

As suggested I tried to expand the size of the target using settings in the 
Epson 2200 Page Setup. There isn't any direct way to set the margins that I
can 
see. Checking the "Minimize Margins" box has no effect on the target size.
 
So, I need to resize in Photoshop.
 
So, I looked in C:\Program Files\Datacolor\Spyder3Print and the only folder
I 
could find with targets was, of course Targets. However, in that folder the
only 
version of the 225 patch target is 92 ppi. Is that ok? Also, it seemed to
have 
patch J10 outlined in black.
 
Am I looking at the right target print file? If not where is it?
 
I sized it up in PS anyway and printed it out. It looks the same as the
original 
sized print. I printed it using Document as source and No Color Management.
When 
I opened it in PS I left it As Is, instead of converting to Adobe.
 
I'd like to make this work since it looks like patch measurement would be
much 
easier.
 
I use Win XP Pro SP3.
 
 
 
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Re: Advice about Spyder3 Studio

2009-06-26 by a1ncsky2

Bob - Sorry all of my questions have caused any confusion. Although I can't see where I said "print through windows", what is going on with this thread is the following - and I am using Windows XP Pro SP3. But that really doesn't matter.

I just got my Spyder3Studio a week or so ago. I had trouble centering the Spectro on the patches as printed out with the 225 patch target as it prints from the Spyder Print software. The ensuing issue was printing a larger target of patches. Although having my Epson 2200 printer for some years I have never tried to change the image size in the print driver, having always done that in Photoshop. Now I see how to do it in the printer dialog. My earlier post had to do with finding the proper target file to print using Photoshop (so I could resize there). The only file I found had that black outline around J10.

Way too much info I know. Ignore my comment, or don't worry about it regarding the black outline on J10. It is there in the target file I found, but it has no effect on Spectro readings. If you are printing from the Spyder software and are happy then fine. Evidently most people are. Myself, now that I see how to increase the size (decrease the margins) in my Epson driver dialog I'm happy too because it's easier to center the Spectro on the larger patches.

I only go through all this because it seems you thought there may be a problem here that is (actually was) only mine.

That said, I still stick by my note many entries earlier, that a person needs to pay more careful attention to reading the patches than you might think - even with larger patches. Maybe, probably, it's just me but go slowly and deliberately. In other words, take three seconds instead of one or two per patch - no big deal. Put the Spectro down solidly and level, then after you hear the double click feedback from the reading, wait a beat or two before you pick up and move the Spectro snout. 

Try it for yourself. While looking at the Spectro snout on the paper, as soon as you hear the second click feedback immediately pick it up. Often you will see a red light under there that can't be good - the little guy isn't done I'm thinking. I'm talking about waiting only a half second or so before picking up.

So far, with my steep learning curve, I've profiled Epson Premium Luster, Epson Velvet Fine Art, and Epson Enhanced Matte. The profiles print as well as anyone could expect. Of course I calibrated my monitor first with the Spyder3Elite. Really happy with the Spyder3Studio gear.

Pat

--- In datacolor_group@yahoogroups.com, "Bob and Carol Schoner" <rschoner@...> wrote:
Show quoted textHide quoted text
>
> Hi,
> 
>  
> 
> I've been following this thread and have some questions.  What do you mean
> when you say "Print through Windows"? Is this the same as printing from the
> Spyder3 Print software?  When I print through the Spyder3 Print software I
> do not get the black outlined box (J10) but I do get the outline when I
> print through QImage. Do you know why I don't get the black outline when I
> print through Spyder3 Print (Yes, I'm using the 3.5b Beta version).
> 
>  
> 
> Thanks,
> 
>  
> 
> Bob Schoner
> 
>  
> 
>   _____  
> 
> From: datacolor_group@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:datacolor_group@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of CDTobie
> Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 1:07 PM
> To: datacolor_group@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [datacolor_group] Advice about Spyder3 Studio
> 
>  
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> So, I looked in C:\Program Files\Datacolor\Spyder3Print and the only folder
> I 
> could find with targets was, of course Targets. However, in that folder the
> only 
> version of the 225 patch target is 92 ppi. Is that ok? Also, it seemed to
> have 
> patch J10 outlined in black.
> 
> Resolution doesn't matter for printing flat patches... and a black outline
> on the white patch just lets you know the patch is there...
> 
> C. David Tobie
> Global Product Technology Manager
> Digital Imaging & Home Theater
> Datacolor
> CDTobie@...
> www.datacolor.com/Spyder3
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: a1ncsky2 <mcguipe@...>
> To: datacolor_group@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tue, Jun 23, 2009 3:50 pm
> Subject: [datacolor_group] Advice about Spyder3 Studio
> 
> As suggested I tried to expand the size of the target using settings in the 
> Epson 2200 Page Setup. There isn't any direct way to set the margins that I
> can 
> see. Checking the "Minimize Margins" box has no effect on the target size.
>  
> So, I need to resize in Photoshop.
>  
> So, I looked in C:\Program Files\Datacolor\Spyder3Print and the only folder
> I 
> could find with targets was, of course Targets. However, in that folder the
> only 
> version of the 225 patch target is 92 ppi. Is that ok? Also, it seemed to
> have 
> patch J10 outlined in black.
>  
> Am I looking at the right target print file? If not where is it?
>  
> I sized it up in PS anyway and printed it out. It looks the same as the
> original 
> sized print. I printed it using Document as source and No Color Management.
> When 
> I opened it in PS I left it As Is, instead of converting to Adobe.
>  
> I'd like to make this work since it looks like patch measurement would be
> much 
> easier.
>  
> I use Win XP Pro SP3.
>  
>  
>  
> ------------------------------------
>  
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>  
>  
>     mailto:datacolor_group-fullfeatured@yahoogroups.com
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>

RE: [datacolor_group] Re: Advice about Spyder3 Studio

2009-06-26 by Bob and Carol Schoner

Hi Pat,

Thanks for getting back. No real confusion I was just "tagging on " to the
thread and that might not have been the best thing to do.

I don't have the entire thread anymore since I deleted it but I seem to
remember CD or someone addressing the target size question by using the term
"print thru Windows" and adjusting the margin size in the driver. I print
the target one of two ways: thru Spyder3 Print or QImage; I was just curious
if there was another way to print (Other than PhotoShop).

I was also curious about the black box outline for the white square (J10?)
since the box outline prints when using QImage but not Spyder3 Print. The
box is very helpful since the white square is almost the color of the paper
and the box helps to align/position the colorimeter.

Thanks,

Bob Schoner
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From: datacolor_group@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:datacolor_group@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of a1ncsky2
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 7:33 PM
To: datacolor_group@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [datacolor_group] Re: Advice about Spyder3 Studio

Bob - Sorry all of my questions have caused any confusion. Although I can't
see where I said "print through windows", what is going on with this thread
is the following - and I am using Windows XP Pro SP3. But that really
doesn't matter.

I just got my Spyder3Studio a week or so ago. I had trouble centering the
Spectro on the patches as printed out with the 225 patch target as it prints
from the Spyder Print software. The ensuing issue was printing a larger
target of patches. Although having my Epson 2200 printer for some years I
have never tried to change the image size in the print driver, having always
done that in Photoshop. Now I see how to do it in the printer dialog. My
earlier post had to do with finding the proper target file to print using
Photoshop (so I could resize there). The only file I found had that black
outline around J10.

Way too much info I know. Ignore my comment, or don't worry about it
regarding the black outline on J10. It is there in the target file I found,
but it has no effect on Spectro readings. If you are printing from the
Spyder software and are happy then fine. Evidently most people are. Myself,
now that I see how to increase the size (decrease the margins) in my Epson
driver dialog I'm happy too because it's easier to center the Spectro on the
larger patches.

I only go through all this because it seems you thought there may be a
problem here that is (actually was) only mine.

That said, I still stick by my note many entries earlier, that a person
needs to pay more careful attention to reading the patches than you might
think - even with larger patches. Maybe, probably, it's just me but go
slowly and deliberately. In other words, take three seconds instead of one
or two per patch - no big deal. Put the Spectro down solidly and level, then
after you hear the double click feedback from the reading, wait a beat or
two before you pick up and move the Spectro snout. 

Try it for yourself. While looking at the Spectro snout on the paper, as
soon as you hear the second click feedback immediately pick it up. Often you
will see a red light under there that can't be good - the little guy isn't
done I'm thinking. I'm talking about waiting only a half second or so before
picking up.

So far, with my steep learning curve, I've profiled Epson Premium Luster,
Epson Velvet Fine Art, and Epson Enhanced Matte. The profiles print as well
as anyone could expect. Of course I calibrated my monitor first with the
Spyder3Elite. Really happy with the Spyder3Studio gear.

Pat

--- In datacolor_group@yahoogroups.com, "Bob and Carol Schoner"
<rschoner@...> wrote:
>
> Hi,
> 
>  
> 
> I've been following this thread and have some questions.  What do you mean
> when you say "Print through Windows"? Is this the same as printing from
the
> Spyder3 Print software?  When I print through the Spyder3 Print software I
> do not get the black outlined box (J10) but I do get the outline when I
> print through QImage. Do you know why I don't get the black outline when I
> print through Spyder3 Print (Yes, I'm using the 3.5b Beta version).
> 
>  
> 
> Thanks,
> 
>  
> 
> Bob Schoner
> 
>  
> 
>   _____  
> 
> From: datacolor_group@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:datacolor_group@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of CDTobie
> Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 1:07 PM
> To: datacolor_group@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [datacolor_group] Advice about Spyder3 Studio
> 
>  
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> So, I looked in C:\Program Files\Datacolor\Spyder3Print and the only
folder
> I 
> could find with targets was, of course Targets. However, in that folder
the
> only 
> version of the 225 patch target is 92 ppi. Is that ok? Also, it seemed to
> have 
> patch J10 outlined in black.
> 
> Resolution doesn't matter for printing flat patches... and a black outline
> on the white patch just lets you know the patch is there...
> 
> C. David Tobie
> Global Product Technology Manager
> Digital Imaging & Home Theater
> Datacolor
> CDTobie@...
> www.datacolor.com/Spyder3
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: a1ncsky2 <mcguipe@...>
> To: datacolor_group@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tue, Jun 23, 2009 3:50 pm
> Subject: [datacolor_group] Advice about Spyder3 Studio
> 
> As suggested I tried to expand the size of the target using settings in
the 
> Epson 2200 Page Setup. There isn't any direct way to set the margins that
I
> can 
> see. Checking the "Minimize Margins" box has no effect on the target size.
>  
> So, I need to resize in Photoshop.
>  
> So, I looked in C:\Program Files\Datacolor\Spyder3Print and the only
folder
> I 
> could find with targets was, of course Targets. However, in that folder
the
> only 
> version of the 225 patch target is 92 ppi. Is that ok? Also, it seemed to
> have 
> patch J10 outlined in black.
>  
> Am I looking at the right target print file? If not where is it?
>  
> I sized it up in PS anyway and printed it out. It looks the same as the
> original 
> sized print. I printed it using Document as source and No Color
Management.
> When 
> I opened it in PS I left it As Is, instead of converting to Adobe.
>  
> I'd like to make this work since it looks like patch measurement would be
> much 
> easier.
>  
> I use Win XP Pro SP3.
>  
>  
>  
> ------------------------------------
>  
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>  
>  
>     mailto:datacolor_group-fullfeatured@yahoogroups.com
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Re: [datacolor_group] Advice about Spyder3 Studio

2009-06-26 by David Miller

On Jun 25, 2009, at 8:59 PM, Bob and Carol Schoner wrote:

>
>
>
> Hi,
>
>
>
> I’ve been following this thread and have some questions.  What do  
> you mean when you say “Print through Windows”? Is this the same as  
> printing from the Spyder3 Print software?  When I print through the  
> Spyder3 Print software I do not get the black outlined box (J10) but  
> I do get the outline when I print through QImage. Do you know why I  
> don’t get the black outline when I print through Spyder3 Print (Yes,  
> I’m using the 3.5b Beta version).
>
>
>

It's because you're printing the same patch content, two different ways.

If you print the image from inside Spyder3Print, you don't get the black
box around the white patch; this doesn't make any difference, the white
patch is still the white patch, it's simply paper white.

If you load and print the .tif version of the image, using Photoshop,
then you get the contents of the .tif file, and we simply happened
to put a black rectangle around the white patch area in that version
of the image to make it stand out a little better.

Spyder3Print doesn't load and print from the .tif files; it generates
the image internally, on the fly, using vectors, if you print from
inside the software. The .tif versions are designed to match the
design of the internally generated image; the color content of the
patches is the same; but other small details inside the image itself
may not be.




David Miller
Senior Software Developer, Digital Color Solutions
Datacolor

Re: [datacolor_group] Re: Advice about Spyder3 Studio

2009-06-26 by David Miller

>
> I don't have the entire thread anymore since I deleted it but I seem  
> to
> remember CD or someone addressing the target size question by using  
> the term
> "print thru Windows" and adjusting the margin size in the driver. I  
> print
> the target one of two ways: thru Spyder3 Print or QImage; I was just  
> curious
> if there was another way to print (Other than PhotoShop).
>
>

When he talked about adjusting margins and "print through Windows",
what he really meant was, printing from inside Spyder3Print (the  
internally
generated image that I just wrote about) and adjusting the margin
size in the Windows page setup dialog during the print process.

There isn't any way that I would recommend to print target images
"directly" from Windows. You need to do it either from inside  
Spyder3Print
(the normal way) or from an application that you absolutely know
will be able to fully disable color management when you're printing
the target. The safest way to do this is to print the target, with
color management fully disabled, from within the application that
you'll actually be PRINTING your real images from, and in which you'll
be applying the profile during the printing process. (In your case,
that will be Photoshop or QImage).
> I was also curious about the black box outline for the white square  
> (J10?)
> since the box outline prints when using QImage but not Spyder3  
> Print. The
> box is very helpful since the white square is almost the color of  
> the paper
> and the box helps to align/position the colorimeter.
>
>
>
See my previous posting about why the white box appears in the .tif
version of the image but not in what's internally generated in
Spyder3Print.

You don't "need" this outline, in any way, because the white patch
is simply paper white. You can have the nose of the spectro on the paper
white anywhere on the page when you take that measurement and it won't
make a difference. There's no ink in that "patch", so no need for any
kind of exact positioning; you simply don't want the nose to overlap
onto anything that's actually printed on the paper.


David Miller
Senior Software Developer, Digital Color Solutions
Datacolor

Re: [datacolor_group] Advice about Spyder3 Studio

2009-06-26 by C D Tobie


On Jun 25, 2009, at 8:59 PM, Bob and Carol Schoner wrote:

I’ve been following this thread and have some questions. What do you mean when you say “Print through Windows”?


You do not include a quote that has me saying Print through Windows. I can't understand what the context would be. Print through Photoshop, I would understand... perhaps it was a typo...

Is this the same as printing from the Spyder3 Print software?

No, when you print directly from the S3Print software, you get a print from a vector version of the target that is automatically resized to your page. When you print from the raster TIFF files in the Targets folder, in a third party application such as Photoshop, thats a totally different process that requires knowing how to manage color into and out of Photoshop.

When I print through the Spyder3 Print software I do not get the black outlined box (J10) but I do get the outline when I print through QImage.

Tiff file from the Targets folder, versus vector file from the application... there are minor differences between the two, but the patch colors and order are the same, which is the main thing.


Do you know why I don’t get the black outline when I print through Spyder3 Print (Yes, I’m using the 3.5b Beta version).

It is not significant, and only indicates the above.

C. David Tobie
Global Product Technology Manager
Digital Imaging & Home Theater


Datacolor
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Re: [datacolor_group] Re: Advice about Spyder3 Studio

2009-06-26 by C D Tobie

On Jun 25, 2009, at 11:19 PM, Bob and Carol Schoner wrote:

> I don't have the entire thread anymore since I deleted it but I seem  
> to
> remember CD or someone addressing the target size question by using  
> the term
> "print thru Windows" and adjusting the margin size in the drive

Now I understand the reference. Windows has particularly ineffective  
default margin values. If you can reduce the default margin values,  
you can get bigger prints when printing directly from Spyder3Print.  
You only need to adjust this once, then all your target prints will  
show the larger size.

C. David Tobie
Global Product Technology Manager
Digital Imaging & Home Theater
CDTobie@...

Re: Advice about Spyder3 Studio

2009-06-29 by Doug Kerr

Hi, David,

--- In datacolor_group@yahoogroups.com, C D Tobie <CDTobie@...> wrote:

> Now I understand the reference. Windows has particularly ineffective  
> default margin values. If you can reduce the default margin values,  
> you can get bigger prints when printing directly from Spyder3Print.  
> You only need to adjust this once, then all your target prints will  
> show the larger size.

What part of Windows is this set in/for? I didn't know that Windows itself had margin properties.

Thanks.

Best regards,

Doug

Re: [datacolor_group] Re: Advice about Spyder3 Studio

2009-06-29 by C D Tobie

On Jun 29, 2009, at 9:01 AM, Doug Kerr wrote:

> Hi, David,
>
> --- In datacolor_group@yahoogroups.com, C D Tobie <CDTobie@...> wrote:
>
>> Now I understand the reference. Windows has particularly ineffective
>> default margin values. If you can reduce the default margin values,
>> you can get bigger prints when printing directly from Spyder3Print.
>> You only need to adjust this once, then all your target prints will
>> show the larger size.
>
> What part of Windows is this set in/for? I didn't know that Windows  
> itself had margin properties.

Someone working on Windows can answer that more precisely than I could  
manage...

C. David Tobie
Global Product Technology Manager
Digital Imaging & Home Theater
CDTobie@...


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