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RE: [disklavier] DKV volume

2014-02-25 by Geoff Ward

Spencer

The link you gave below does not lead to the latest version of your program.

Kind regards

Geoff

From: disklavier@yahoogroups.com [mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Spencer Chase
Sent: Wednesday, 26 February 2014 1:29 AM
To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [disklavier] DKV volume

my midimod2 program will move all pedal data to channel 3 if you select the ";pedal events on ch 3" checkbox. if this is all you want to do, leave the default preset of "no change" for velocity modifications. you can do single files or whole folders in batch mode. the program may be found on my download page http://spencerserolls.com/Files4Download.html

On 2/25/2014 12:03 AM, Skanter123 wrote:

As i look at event lists from DKV files (from eCompetitions) it seems that #67 is soft pedal. Sustain data is all #64, both on/off and incremental.

I don't know how to batch copy all pedal data to another channel (at least with the sequencer I have here at home), but I certainly can move everything to ch 1. Ill try this and report back. Thanks!



Sam


On Feb 25, 2014, at 2:46 AM, Bill Brandom <billbrando@...> wrote:

If you have both on/off and incremental on channel 1, then copy all of the pedal data (Controllers 64 and 67) to channel 3.

If you can't extract the pedal data from the note data, and

if you are making Piano-only music, try just copying ALL of the note and pedal data on channel 1 to channel 3.

Bill


On Feb 24, 2014, at 11:35 PM, Sam Kanter <skanter123@...> wrote:

Bill, not sure what you mean here. How would I copy MIDI half-pedal (controller #67) from channel 1 to channel 3 on MIDI files that have both on ch 1? I am referring to files that already have the half-pedal data.


Sam Kanter
www.keyboardcollective.com
(212) 684-3304

On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 2:04 AM, Bill Brandom <bill.brandom03@...> wrote:

Sam, ;

I believe you can copy your on/off pedal data from channel one to channel 3 on both types of MIDI files. Leave your on/off pedal data on channel 1 and then make your incremental modifications to the on/off pedal data on channel 3. You should be fine.

Bill


On Feb 24, 2014, at 9:58 PM, Skanter123 <skanter123@...> wrote:

Hello everyone,

Geoff and Spence have both been incredibly generous in trying to help me with the clunking, noisy damper pedal on my MK II DKV when playing back MIDI files.

After trying Spence's pedal on/off program to no avail, we are realizing that the older DKVs like the MKII receive damper on/off data on ch 1, and half-pedal data on ch 3.

Can anyone enlighten us on what type of MIDI files (0 or1) have pedal info on ch 3? Is there a way to extract this data that might be embedded on ch 1?

Does anyone with older DKVs have this clunking pedal issue, and have they found a way to solve it?

Thanks in advance...


On Feb 20, 2014, at 7:40 PM, Sam Kanter <skanter123@...> wrote:

Geoff, the settings are very helpful. Hopefully I can experiment tomorrow and see how they work. I will report back and update. Thanks!

Sam

*(Sent from phone - please excuse brevity and typos.)


On Feb 20, 2014, at 5:57 PM, "Geoff Ward" <gward1211@...> wrote:

Sam

The attached screenshot is of the settings I found best, but it depends on the regulation of the piano. On mine, the dampers just clear all of the strings at a midi value of 60 (I created a test file with various levels to ascertain that figure). So I set it at a max of 70 to ensure strings were undamped. At 40 all strings were fully damped. So a range of 40 to 70 minimises the pedal travel. However, the ramps of midi 64 controllers thus created still descend to 0 if time permits, so I\u2019m not quite sure what the pedal off threshold of 40 determines. It does seem to put a shoulder in the ramp at the 40 mark and affects the position of the ramp. This is always a compromise. The sustain pedal will take effect at a later point in time and will come off earlier and I think that the threshold levels are intended to position the ramps so that the sustain actuation occurs as close as possible to where the former on/off controllers occurred. It217;s not perfect because damper lift-off is not perfect. On my piano, which is new, the damper lift-off range is about 50 to 60.

The soft pedal is not so critical. For the soft pedal, the ramp is set to run the full range from 0 to 127, as you would expect. I\u2019m again not sure of the significance of the on and off threshold values, but these settings worked for me.

Kind regards

Geoff

From: disklavier@yahoogroups.com [mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Skanter123
Sent: Thursday, 20 February 2014 5:29 PM
To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
Cc: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [disklavier] DKV volume

Geoff, do you have an idea what would be good starting settings for MPX100II?

This is a mark II DKV, not mark II XG.

Sam


On Feb 20, 2014, at 1:26 AM, Spencer Chase <lists@...> wrote:

i wrote the program but Geoff did the testing and has a DKV to test on so he is the authority for appropriate settings, at least for pianos similar to his.

On 2/19/2014 10:16 PM, Sam Kanter wrote:

Wow - this looks like just what the doctor ordered to fix the noisy on/off pedaling issue. Can't wait to test it during day hours. Thanks!


On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 1:05 AM, Spencer Chase <lists@...> wrote:

i uploaded the new version of the pedal modifier program do not use the link in the last e-mail because the name has changed. go to the download page of my site spencerserolls.com and find the On Off to Gradual Pedal converter program (New) actually, this link might work from e-mail but best to visit the download page instead.



On 2/19/2014 8:20 PM, Skanter123 wrote:

Geoff, what is the exact name of Spencer's pedal program? I could not find it...

Sam

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