Disklavier

Hi Carol,

Thanks for your interesting reply.

I suppose those longer capstons on the u3 are what make the action 
feel more responsive, more leverage e.t.c.

The reason I was looking at pianodisc and qrs was because I like my 
existing piano an old tall steck.  I really like this piano, it is large, almost 
as big as some of the steck players.

However, I had considered the recording facility on the others not being 
too good and decided to look at disklaver.  I think it is the last 2 octaves 
in the bass that are lacking in the U1 and also, the dynamic range in that 
on the u3 there was a huge range between quiet passages and loud 
ones, without having to really whack the piano.

I did try a couple of grands and again, I felt I needed to go to one of the 
larger ones before I got the sound I am looking for.  Also, they do get 
expensive as the size goes up.

This is a real dilemma.  The steck was completely rebuilt 5 years ago, 
new german hammers restrung, the whole works.  Just worried about 
the lack of recording and hacking the keybed around, I would not want to 
have something that was useless.


On 17 Dec 2004 at 17:48, Carol Beigel wrote:

> 
> Disklaviers are not installed in U3s anywhere that I
> know of.  Did you inquire about a special order?
> Sometimes that is possible.
> 
> The Record system is superb only on a Disklavier.  Both
> PianoDisc and QRS systems admit their record systems
> are only accessories and not meant to capture a true
> piano performance.  Same goes for Baldwin.
> 
> I have never really sensed much of a difference between
> a U1 and a U3, so my suggestion is that you request the
> dealer to have the U1 properly tuned and voiced and
> then see if you like it.  Installing a PianoDisc (or
> QRS) system into a U3 involves cutting a slot in the
> keybed.  On some pianos, there is a problem with the
> keybed sagging later on and messing up the action
> regulation.
> 
> The other reason DKVs are probably not installed in
> taller uprights has to do with physics.  The hammers
> must hit the strings at 1/8 the speaking length of the
> string. On a U1, the piano action sits directly on top
> of the keys.  If you add 3 inches to string length,
> then you need to mount the piano action higher using
> taller capstans.  Most taller capstans are wooden
> dowels and they may not hold up well being played by
> solenoids.  If you do go with a player installed in a
> U3, you will need to be very careful about the velocity
> of the MIDI data not damaging wooden dowel capstans.  I
> tuned a German-made upright today that had metal caps
> covering the wooden capstans, so that may be a work
> around.
> 
> You definitely have a quandry.  Is there a grand piano
> you like as well?
> 
> Carol Beigel
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Keith Barrett" <keith@...>
> To: <disklavier@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Friday, December 17, 2004 5:35 PM
> Subject: [disklavier] U3 in disklavier?
> 
> 
> > Hi
> >
> > Still having problems in deciding whether to go with
> disklavier or
> > pianodisc so, one final problem.
> >
> > Today, I played a u1 and a u3.  I know I can get a
> disklavier in u1 or du1
> > but the u3 had so much more about it.  Those extra 10
> cm in hight really
> > seemed to make a difference.
> >
> > The shop told me that they cannot get a u3 disklavier
> so, is that just in
> > the uk or are they not made?
> >
> > Also, if they are not now in u3, are there any older
> ones in the u3
> > format?
> >
> > I am not sure that I could live with a du1 having
> played the u3.  The
> > action was so much more responsive and I found that
> the bass in the U3
> > was so much better.
> >
> > So, I am wanting the technology of the disklavier
> with the u3
> > performance.
> >
> > Is it out there?
> >
> >
> > Keith
> >
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> 
> To Post a message to the group, send it to:   
disklavier@...
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> To Post a private message to Todd Muncy, the group's founder and 
moderator, send it to:
> disklavier-owner@...
> 
> To reach our group's web site go to:
> http://Yahoogroups.com/group/disklavier
> 
> Todd's family web site was completely updated 012/22/03.  It contains 
some fun disklavier content and links to midi sites among many other 
things, The url is:
> http://MuncyFamily.com 
> 
> THINKING OF LEAVING THE GROUP?
> If you are thinking of unsubcribing because you are getting too much 
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Keith

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Keith Barrett


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