Disklavier

Hi

Still having problems in deciding whether to go with disklavier or 
pianodisc so, one final problem.

Today, I played a u1 and a u3.  I know I can get a disklavier in u1 or du1 
but the u3 had so much more about it.  Those extra 10 cm in hight really 
seemed to make a difference.

The shop told me that they cannot get a u3 disklavier so, is that just in 
the uk or are they not made?

Also, if they are not now in u3, are there any older ones in the u3 
format?

I am not sure that I could live with a du1 having played the u3.  The 
action was so much more responsive and I found that the bass in the U3 
was so much better.

So, I am wanting the technology of the disklavier with the u3 
performance.

Is it out there?


Keith

- -

Keith Barrett


gw4nby

Bridgend
South Wales

Disklaviers are not installed in U3s anywhere that I
know of.  Did you inquire about a special order?
Sometimes that is possible.

The Record system is superb only on a Disklavier.  Both
PianoDisc and QRS systems admit their record systems
are only accessories and not meant to capture a true
piano performance.  Same goes for Baldwin.

I have never really sensed much of a difference between
a U1 and a U3, so my suggestion is that you request the
dealer to have the U1 properly tuned and voiced and
then see if you like it.  Installing a PianoDisc (or
QRS) system into a U3 involves cutting a slot in the
keybed.  On some pianos, there is a problem with the
keybed sagging later on and messing up the action
regulation.

The other reason DKVs are probably not installed in
taller uprights has to do with physics.  The hammers
must hit the strings at 1/8 the speaking length of the
string. On a U1, the piano action sits directly on top
of the keys.  If you add 3 inches to string length,
then you need to mount the piano action higher using
taller capstans.  Most taller capstans are wooden
dowels and they may not hold up well being played by
solenoids.  If you do go with a player installed in a
U3, you will need to be very careful about the velocity
of the MIDI data not damaging wooden dowel capstans.  I
tuned a German-made upright today that had metal caps
covering the wooden capstans, so that may be a work
around.

You definitely have a quandry.  Is there a grand piano
you like as well?

Carol Beigel

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Keith Barrett" <keith@...>
To: <disklavier@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, December 17, 2004 5:35 PM
Subject: [disklavier] U3 in disklavier?


> Hi
>
> Still having problems in deciding whether to go with
disklavier or
> pianodisc so, one final problem.
>
> Today, I played a u1 and a u3.  I know I can get a
disklavier in u1 or du1
> but the u3 had so much more about it.  Those extra 10
cm in hight really
> seemed to make a difference.
>
> The shop told me that they cannot get a u3 disklavier
so, is that just in
> the uk or are they not made?
>
> Also, if they are not now in u3, are there any older
ones in the u3
> format?
>
> I am not sure that I could live with a du1 having
played the u3.  The
> action was so much more responsive and I found that
the bass in the U3
> was so much better.
>
> So, I am wanting the technology of the disklavier
with the u3
> performance.
>
> Is it out there?
>
>
> Keith
>
> - -
>
> Keith Barrett
>
>
> gw4nby
>
> Bridgend
> South Wales
>
>
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012/22/03.  It contains some fun disklavier content and
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> http://MuncyFamily.com
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Hi Carol,

Thanks for your interesting reply.

I suppose those longer capstons on the u3 are what make the action 
feel more responsive, more leverage e.t.c.

The reason I was looking at pianodisc and qrs was because I like my 
existing piano an old tall steck.  I really like this piano, it is large, almost 
as big as some of the steck players.

However, I had considered the recording facility on the others not being 
too good and decided to look at disklaver.  I think it is the last 2 octaves 
in the bass that are lacking in the U1 and also, the dynamic range in that 
on the u3 there was a huge range between quiet passages and loud 
ones, without having to really whack the piano.

I did try a couple of grands and again, I felt I needed to go to one of the 
larger ones before I got the sound I am looking for.  Also, they do get 
expensive as the size goes up.

This is a real dilemma.  The steck was completely rebuilt 5 years ago, 
new german hammers restrung, the whole works.  Just worried about 
the lack of recording and hacking the keybed around, I would not want to 
have something that was useless.


On 17 Dec 2004 at 17:48, Carol Beigel wrote:

> 
> Disklaviers are not installed in U3s anywhere that I
> know of.  Did you inquire about a special order?
> Sometimes that is possible.
> 
> The Record system is superb only on a Disklavier.  Both
> PianoDisc and QRS systems admit their record systems
> are only accessories and not meant to capture a true
> piano performance.  Same goes for Baldwin.
> 
> I have never really sensed much of a difference between
> a U1 and a U3, so my suggestion is that you request the
> dealer to have the U1 properly tuned and voiced and
> then see if you like it.  Installing a PianoDisc (or
> QRS) system into a U3 involves cutting a slot in the
> keybed.  On some pianos, there is a problem with the
> keybed sagging later on and messing up the action
> regulation.
> 
> The other reason DKVs are probably not installed in
> taller uprights has to do with physics.  The hammers
> must hit the strings at 1/8 the speaking length of the
> string. On a U1, the piano action sits directly on top
> of the keys.  If you add 3 inches to string length,
> then you need to mount the piano action higher using
> taller capstans.  Most taller capstans are wooden
> dowels and they may not hold up well being played by
> solenoids.  If you do go with a player installed in a
> U3, you will need to be very careful about the velocity
> of the MIDI data not damaging wooden dowel capstans.  I
> tuned a German-made upright today that had metal caps
> covering the wooden capstans, so that may be a work
> around.
> 
> You definitely have a quandry.  Is there a grand piano
> you like as well?
> 
> Carol Beigel
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Keith Barrett" <keith@...>
> To: <disklavier@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Friday, December 17, 2004 5:35 PM
> Subject: [disklavier] U3 in disklavier?
> 
> 
> > Hi
> >
> > Still having problems in deciding whether to go with
> disklavier or
> > pianodisc so, one final problem.
> >
> > Today, I played a u1 and a u3.  I know I can get a
> disklavier in u1 or du1
> > but the u3 had so much more about it.  Those extra 10
> cm in hight really
> > seemed to make a difference.
> >
> > The shop told me that they cannot get a u3 disklavier
> so, is that just in
> > the uk or are they not made?
> >
> > Also, if they are not now in u3, are there any older
> ones in the u3
> > format?
> >
> > I am not sure that I could live with a du1 having
> played the u3.  The
> > action was so much more responsive and I found that
> the bass in the U3
> > was so much better.
> >
> > So, I am wanting the technology of the disklavier
> with the u3
> > performance.
> >
> > Is it out there?
> >
> >
> > Keith
> >
> > - -
> >
> > Keith Barrett
> >
> >
> > gw4nby
> >
> > Bridgend
> > South Wales
> >
> >
> > To Post a message to the group, send it to:
> disklavier@...
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> founder and moderator, send it to:
> > disklavier-owner@...
> >
> > To reach our group's web site go to:
> > http://Yahoogroups.com/group/disklavier
> >
> > Todd's family web site was completely updated
> 012/22/03.  It contains some fun disklavier content and
> links to midi sites among many other things, The url
> is:
> > http://MuncyFamily.com
> >
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> 
> Todd's family web site was completely updated 012/22/03.  It contains 
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> http://MuncyFamily.com 
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Keith

- -

Keith Barrett


gw4nby

Bridgend
South Wales

If you really like your Steck, then investigate having
a PD or QRS installed.   I have installed the QRS
product (plastic rocker fingers) under the keys (used
to be called the Gulbransen Crystal Combo) and it works
just fine.  Of course, you may need to edit the data
more than you would a DKV.  The PianoDisc uses a mylar
system with little mylar fingers.  My own perception is
that mylar fingers don't work as well as the plastic
rocker arms.  If all you want to do is record your
piano playing then this is all you need.

If you want to install a solenoid rail for playback,
then I don't think you would have a problem with
cutting a slot in the keybed of a Steck - especially if
it is an old American-buit model.  The keybeds that
"sag" are Kawai and others that only have a few metal
supports underneath.

The other tricky thing about installing a player system
on a smaller upright is the pedal solenoids - sometimes
there is not enough room.  However, a George Steck
explayer old upright would probably already have the
necessary space.

Carol Beigel

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Keith Barrett" <keith@...>
To: <disklavier@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, December 17, 2004 6:42 PM
Subject: Re: [disklavier] U3 in disklavier?


> Hi Carol,
>
> Thanks for your interesting reply.
>
> I suppose those longer capstons on the u3 are what
make the action
> feel more responsive, more leverage e.t.c.
>
> The reason I was looking at pianodisc and qrs was
because I like my
> existing piano an old tall steck.  I really like this
piano, it is large, almost
> as big as some of the steck players.
>

>
> This is a real dilemma.  The steck was completely
rebuilt 5 years ago,
> new german hammers restrung, the whole works.  Just
worried about
> the lack of recording and hacking the keybed around,
I would not want to
> have something that was useless.
>
>
> On 17 Dec 2004 at 17:48, Carol Beigel wrote:
>
> >
> > Disklaviers are not installed in U3s anywhere that
I
> > know of.  Did you inquire about a special order?
> > Sometimes that is possible.
> >
> > The Record system is superb only on a Disklavier.
Both
> > PianoDisc and QRS systems admit their record
systems
> > are only accessories and not meant to capture a
true
> > piano performance.  Same goes for Baldwin.
> >
> > I have never really sensed much of a difference
between
> > a U1 and a U3, so my suggestion is that you request
the
> > dealer to have the U1 properly tuned and voiced and
> > then see if you like it.  Installing a PianoDisc
(or
> > QRS) system into a U3 involves cutting a slot in
the
> > keybed.  On some pianos, there is a problem with
the
> > keybed sagging later on and messing up the action
> > regulation.
> >
> > The other reason DKVs are probably not installed in
> > taller uprights has to do with physics.  The
hammers
> > must hit the strings at 1/8 the speaking length of
the
> > string. On a U1, the piano action sits directly on
top
> > of the keys.  If you add 3 inches to string length,
> > then you need to mount the piano action higher
using
> > taller capstans.  Most taller capstans are wooden
> > dowels and they may not hold up well being played
by
> > solenoids.  If you do go with a player installed in
a
> > U3, you will need to be very careful about the
velocity
> > of the MIDI data not damaging wooden dowel
capstans.  I
> > tuned a German-made upright today that had metal
caps
> > covering the wooden capstans, so that may be a work
> > around.
> >
> > You definitely have a quandry.  Is there a grand
piano
> > you like as well?
> >
> > Carol Beigel
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Keith Barrett" <keith@...>
> > To: <disklavier@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Friday, December 17, 2004 5:35 PM
> > Subject: [disklavier] U3 in disklavier?
> >
> >
> > > Hi
> > >
> > > Still having problems in deciding whether to go
with
> > disklavier or
> > > pianodisc so, one final problem.
> > >
> > > Today, I played a u1 and a u3.  I know I can get
a
> > disklavier in u1 or du1
> > > but the u3 had so much more about it.  Those
extra 10
> > cm in hight really
> > > seemed to make a difference.
> > >
> > > The shop told me that they cannot get a u3
disklavier
> > so, is that just in
> > > the uk or are they not made?
> > >
> > > Also, if they are not now in u3, are there any
older
> > ones in the u3
> > > format?
> > >
> > > I am not sure that I could live with a du1 having
> > played the u3.  The
> > > action was so much more responsive and I found
that
> > the bass in the U3
> > > was so much better.
> > >
> > > So, I am wanting the technology of the disklavier
> > with the u3
> > > performance.
> > >
> > > Is it out there?
> > >
> > >
> > > Keith
> > >
> > > - -
> > >
> > > Keith Barrett
> > >
> > >
> > > gw4nby
> > >
> > > Bridgend
> > > South Wales
> > >
> > >
> > > To Post a message to the group, send it to:
> > disklavier@...
> > >
> > > To Post a private message to Todd Muncy, the
group's
> > founder and moderator, send it to:
> > > disklavier-owner@...
> > >
> > > To reach our group's web site go to:
> > > http://Yahoogroups.com/group/disklavier
> > >
> > > Todd's family web site was completely updated
> > 012/22/03.  It contains some fun disklavier content
and
> > links to midi sites among many other things, The
url
> > is:
> > > http://MuncyFamily.com
> > >
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> >
> > Todd's family web site was completely updated
012/22/03.  It contains
> some fun disklavier content and links to midi sites
among many other
> things, The url is:
> > http://MuncyFamily.com
> >
> > THINKING OF LEAVING THE GROUP?
> > If you are thinking of unsubcribing because you are
getting too much
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delivery option instead.
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> Keith
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> Keith Barrett
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>
> gw4nby
>
> Bridgend
> South Wales
>
>
> To Post a message to the group, send it to:
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> To reach our group's web site go to:
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>
> Todd's family web site was completely updated
012/22/03.  It contains some fun disklavier content and
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is:
> http://MuncyFamily.com
>
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On Fri, 17 Dec 2004, Keith Barrett wrote:
> However, I had considered the recording facility on the others not being
> too good and decided to look at disklaver.  I think it is the last 2 octaves
> in the bass that are lacking in the U1 and also, the dynamic range in that
> on the u3 there was a huge range between quiet passages and loud
> ones, without having to really whack the piano.

Hello Keith (and Carol!)

I haven't tried it, but I see that Bob Moog (of Synthesiser fame) has 
released a new MIDI sensor for pianos called "PianoBar" :
http://www.moogmusic.com/detail.php?main_product_id=71

This consists of a long bar that rests on the keys, and a sensor that goes 
under the pedals, allowing you to record midi from most pianos and 
keyboards. Obviously, it won't record hammer velocity like a DKV but the 
key velocity like a synthesiser.

Some interesting people are using it apparently (Bruce Hornsby, Stevie 
Wonder etc) so it must be quite good, but whether it can compare to a DKV 
I don't know.

Perhaps this might help with the recording side?

Regards

James

Hi Carol,

Thanks again for your interesting comments.

I think I am moving towards fitting a player system to the steck.  At least 
I know I like it and I am happy with the voicing and touch e.t.c.

So, I would like to be able to record and also to download some of the 
files from the net.

I do not require other synthasized voices or tone generation.

As you have fitted both systems, could you comment on the goods and 
bads of both systems?

Also, does the fitting of the rail under the keys affect the touch or 
increase noise?

Can I connect a computer to both systems and play files directly from 
the hard drive?

Thanks.

On 17 Dec 2004 at 20:14, Carol Beigel wrote:

> 
> If you really like your Steck, then investigate having
> a PD or QRS installed.   I have installed the QRS
> product (plastic rocker fingers) under the keys (used
> to be called the Gulbransen Crystal Combo) and it works
> just fine.  Of course, you may need to edit the data
> more than you would a DKV.  The PianoDisc uses a mylar
> system with little mylar fingers.  My own perception is
> that mylar fingers don't work as well as the plastic
> rocker arms.  If all you want to do is record your
> piano playing then this is all you need.
> 
> If you want to install a solenoid rail for playback,
> then I don't think you would have a problem with
> cutting a slot in the keybed of a Steck - especially if
> it is an old American-buit model.  The keybeds that
> "sag" are Kawai and others that only have a few metal
> supports underneath.
> 
> The other tricky thing about installing a player system
> on a smaller upright is the pedal solenoids - sometimes
> there is not enough room.  However, a George Steck
> explayer old upright would probably already have the
> necessary space.
> 
> Carol Beigel
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Keith Barrett" <keith@...>
> To: <disklavier@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Friday, December 17, 2004 6:42 PM
> Subject: Re: [disklavier] U3 in disklavier?
> 
> 
> > Hi Carol,
> >
> > Thanks for your interesting reply.
> >
> > I suppose those longer capstons on the u3 are what
> make the action
> > feel more responsive, more leverage e.t.c.
> >
> > The reason I was looking at pianodisc and qrs was
> because I like my
> > existing piano an old tall steck.  I really like this
> piano, it is large, almost
> > as big as some of the steck players.
> >
> 
> >
> > This is a real dilemma.  The steck was completely
> rebuilt 5 years ago,
> > new german hammers restrung, the whole works.  Just
> worried about
> > the lack of recording and hacking the keybed around,
> I would not want to
> > have something that was useless.
> >
> >
> > On 17 Dec 2004 at 17:48, Carol Beigel wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Disklaviers are not installed in U3s anywhere that
> I
> > > know of.  Did you inquire about a special order?
> > > Sometimes that is possible.
> > >
> > > The Record system is superb only on a Disklavier.
> Both
> > > PianoDisc and QRS systems admit their record
> systems
> > > are only accessories and not meant to capture a
> true
> > > piano performance.  Same goes for Baldwin.
> > >
> > > I have never really sensed much of a difference
> between
> > > a U1 and a U3, so my suggestion is that you request
> the
> > > dealer to have the U1 properly tuned and voiced and
> > > then see if you like it.  Installing a PianoDisc
> (or
> > > QRS) system into a U3 involves cutting a slot in
> the
> > > keybed.  On some pianos, there is a problem with
> the
> > > keybed sagging later on and messing up the action
> > > regulation.
> > >
> > > The other reason DKVs are probably not installed in
> > > taller uprights has to do with physics.  The
> hammers
> > > must hit the strings at 1/8 the speaking length of
> the
> > > string. On a U1, the piano action sits directly on
> top
> > > of the keys.  If you add 3 inches to string length,
> > > then you need to mount the piano action higher
> using
> > > taller capstans.  Most taller capstans are wooden
> > > dowels and they may not hold up well being played
> by
> > > solenoids.  If you do go with a player installed in
> a
> > > U3, you will need to be very careful about the
> velocity
> > > of the MIDI data not damaging wooden dowel
> capstans.  I
> > > tuned a German-made upright today that had metal
> caps
> > > covering the wooden capstans, so that may be a work
> > > around.
> > >
> > > You definitely have a quandry.  Is there a grand
> piano
> > > you like as well?
> > >
> > > Carol Beigel
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > From: "Keith Barrett" <keith@...>
> > > To: <disklavier@yahoogroups.com>
> > > Sent: Friday, December 17, 2004 5:35 PM
> > > Subject: [disklavier] U3 in disklavier?
> > >
> > >
> > > > Hi
> > > >
> > > > Still having problems in deciding whether to go
> with
> > > disklavier or
> > > > pianodisc so, one final problem.
> > > >
> > > > Today, I played a u1 and a u3.  I know I can get
> a
> > > disklavier in u1 or du1
> > > > but the u3 had so much more about it.  Those
> extra 10
> > > cm in hight really
> > > > seemed to make a difference.
> > > >
> > > > The shop told me that they cannot get a u3
> disklavier
> > > so, is that just in
> > > > the uk or are they not made?
> > > >
> > > > Also, if they are not now in u3, are there any
> older
> > > ones in the u3
> > > > format?
> > > >
> > > > I am not sure that I could live with a du1 having
> > > played the u3.  The
> > > > action was so much more responsive and I found
> that
> > > the bass in the U3
> > > > was so much better.
> > > >
> > > > So, I am wanting the technology of the disklavier
> > > with the u3
> > > > performance.
> > > >
> > > > Is it out there?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Keith
> > > >
> > > > - -
> > > >
> > > > Keith Barrett
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > gw4nby
> > > >
> > > > Bridgend
> > > > South Wales
> > > >
> > > >
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> > > founder and moderator, send it to:
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> > > >
> > > > To reach our group's web site go to:
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> > > >
> > > > Todd's family web site was completely updated
> > > 012/22/03.  It contains some fun disklavier content
> and
> > > links to midi sites among many other things, The
> url
> > > is:
> > > > http://MuncyFamily.com
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> >
> > - -
> >
> > Keith Barrett
> >
> >
> > gw4nby
> >
> > Bridgend
> > South Wales
> >
> >
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> > To reach our group's web site go to:
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> >
> > Todd's family web site was completely updated
> 012/22/03.  It contains some fun disklavier content and
> links to midi sites among many other things, The url
> is:
> > http://MuncyFamily.com
> >
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> To Post a message to the group, send it to:   
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> To Post a private message to Todd Muncy, the group's founder and 
moderator, send it to:
> disklavier-owner@...
> 
> To reach our group's web site go to:
> http://Yahoogroups.com/group/disklavier
> 
> Todd's family web site was completely updated 012/22/03.  It contains 
some fun disklavier content and links to midi sites among many other 
things, The url is:
> http://MuncyFamily.com 
> 
> THINKING OF LEAVING THE GROUP?
> If you are thinking of unsubcribing because you are getting too much 
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Keith

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Keith Barrett


gw4nby

Bridgend
South Wales