Inactive M IV part 2
2014-01-20 by James W Kenney
I connected a set of ear phones and I can hear the music. Nothing from the keys.
Jim
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Inactive M IV part 2
Re: [disklavier] Inactive M IV part 2
2014-01-20 by Bill Brandom
James,
Completely power down the Disklavier by holding in the oblong green on/off button. After it quits blinking, unplug it from the wall and let it sit about an hour.
Plug it back, in and power it up. I think you will find the keys and pedals will start playing again for you.
You MUST unplug the piano from power for this to work.
Bill
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On Sun, Jan 19, 2014 at 6:24 PM, James W Kenney <jimwkenney@netscape.net> wrote:
I connected a set of ear phones and I can hear the music. Nothing from the keys.
Jim
Floppy drive affects orhercDKV functions?
2014-01-20 by Skanter123
The floppy drive on my MPX100II came back to life for a short time tonight, then went back into oblivion. Now nothing happens when I hit the DISK button, can't even try to format. In what way does the floppy affect the rest of the built-in control unit besides reading and writing discs? Sam www.keyboardcollective.com (212) 684-3304
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> On Jan 20, 2014, at 12:17 AM, Bill Brandom <bill.brandom03@...> wrote: > > James, > > Completely power down the Disklavier by holding in the oblong green on/off button. After it quits blinking, unplug it from the wall and let it sit about an hour. > > Plug it back, in and power it up. I think you will find the keys and pedals will start playing again for you. > > You MUST unplug the piano from power for this to work. > > Bill > > >> On Sun, Jan 19, 2014 at 6:24 PM, James W Kenney <jimwkenney@...> wrote: >> >> I connected a set of ear phones and I can hear the music. Nothing from the keys. >> >> Jim >> > >
Re: [disklavier] Inactive M IV part 2
2014-01-20 by James W Kenney
Bill Thank you again. The fix worked. I had powered down, but quickly rebooted. That did not work. Jim
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From: Bill Brandom <bill.brandom03@...>
To: disklavier <disklavier@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Mon, Jan 20, 2014 12:17 am
Subject: Re: [disklavier] Inactive M IV part 2
James,
Completely power down the Disklavier by holding in the oblong green on/off button. After it quits blinking, unplug it from the wall and let it sit about an hour.
Plug it back, in and power it up. I think you will find the keys and pedals will start playing again for you.
You MUST unplug the piano from power for this to work.
Bill
On Sun, Jan 19, 2014 at 6:24 PM, James W Kenney <jimwkenney@...> wrote:
I connected a set of ear phones and I can hear the music. Nothing from the keys.
JimRe: [disklavier] Inactive M IV part 2
2014-01-20 by Horatio Kemeny
I'm curious if anyone has some insight as to why powering down for so long is necessary? Most electronics require a few seconds at most to be completely powered off and ready for a full reset. What (and how) could something still be going on with no power to the system at all? I'm not questioning the validity of the strategy as it seems to work and the time, as per this example, makes a difference. But what's actually going on? .....HK
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> On Jan 20, 2014, at 2:02 PM, James W Kenney <jimwkenney@...> wrote: > > Bill > Thank you again. The fix worked. I had powered down, but quickly rebooted. That did not work. > > Jim > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bill Brandom <bill.brandom03@...> > To: disklavier <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Mon, Jan 20, 2014 12:17 am > Subject: Re: [disklavier] Inactive M IV part 2 > > > James, > > Completely power down the Disklavier by holding in the oblong green on/off button. After it quits blinking, unplug it from the wall and let it sit about an hour. > > Plug it back, in and power it up. I think you will find the keys and pedals will start playing again for you. > > You MUST unplug the piano from power for this to work. > > Bill > > >> On Sun, Jan 19, 2014 at 6:24 PM, James W Kenney <jimwkenney@...> wrote: >> >> I connected a set of ear phones and I can hear the music. Nothing from the keys. >> >> Jim > >
Re: [disklavier] Inactive M IV part 2
2014-01-20 by James W Kenney
Just a clarification. I did not remove the power when I first rebooted. Jim
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From: Horatio Kemeny <hkemeny@gmail.com>
To: disklavier <disklavier@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Mon, Jan 20, 2014 5:07 pm
Subject: Re: [disklavier] Inactive M IV part 2
I'm curious if anyone has some insight as to why powering down for so long is necessary? Most electronics require a few seconds at most to be completely powered off and ready for a full reset.
What (and how) could something still be going on with no power to the system at all?
I'm not questioning the validity of the strategy as it seems to work and the time, as per this example, makes a difference.
But what's actually going on?
.....HK
On Jan 20, 2014, at 2:02 PM, James W Kenney <jimwkenney@netscape.net> wrote:
Bill
Thank you again. The fix worked. I had powered down, but quickly rebooted. That did not work.
Jim
-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Brandom <bill.brandom03@gmail.com>
To: disklavier <disklavier@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Mon, Jan 20, 2014 12:17 am
Subject: Re: [disklavier] Inactive M IV part 2
James,
Completely power down the Disklavier by holding in the oblong green on/off button. After it quits blinking, unplug it from the wall and let it sit about an hour.
Plug it back, in and power it up. I think you will find the keys and pedals will start playing again for you.
You MUST unplug the piano from power for this to work.
Bill
On Sun, Jan 19, 2014 at 6:24 PM, James W Kenney <jimwkenney@...> wrote:
I connected a set of ear phones and I can hear the music. Nothing from the keys.
JimRe: [disklavier] Inactive M IV part 2
2014-01-20 by Emile van Sebille
I'm not sure my experience with computers is applicable to a Mark IV, but I commonly advise clients to unplug first the power, then disconnecting and reconnecting all other cables one-by-one, before replugging in power when I want a full system cold-start reboot to take place. The primary reason I do it is because in the past (I don't know for sure it's still valid) serial IO UARTs (still used in USB communications) could hold state (ie, strap a pin high) between reboots. That mainly occurred between different components, so maybe, as the Mark IV is a self contained system, unplugging from power serves that purpose as well. Cluelessly-y'rs, Emile
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On 1/20/2014 2:07 PM, Horatio Kemeny wrote: > I'm curious if anyone has some insight as to why powering down for so > long is necessary? Most electronics require a few seconds at most to > be completely powered off and ready for a full reset. > > What (and how) could something still be going on with no power to the > system at all? > > I'm not questioning the validity of the strategy as it seems to work > and the time, as per this example, makes a difference. > > But what's actually going on? > > .....HK > > > On Jan 20, 2014, at 2:02 PM, James W Kenney <jimwkenney@... > <mailto:jimwkenney@...>> wrote: > >> Bill >> Thank you again. The fix worked. I had powered down, but quickly >> rebooted. That did not work. >> >> Jim >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Bill Brandom <bill.brandom03@... >> <mailto:bill.brandom03@...>> >> To: disklavier <disklavier@yahoogroups.com >> <mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com>> >> Sent: Mon, Jan 20, 2014 12:17 am >> Subject: Re: [disklavier] Inactive M IV part 2 >> >> James, >> >> Completely power down the Disklavier by holding in the oblong green >> on/off button. After it quits blinking, unplug it from the wall and >> let it sit about an hour. >> >> Plug it back, in and power it up. I think you will find the keys and >> pedals will start playing again for you. >> >> You MUST unplug the piano from power for this to work. >> >> Bill >> >> >> On Sun, Jan 19, 2014 at 6:24 PM, James W Kenney >> <jimwkenney@... <mailto:jimwkenney@...>> wrote: >> >> I connected a set of ear phones and I can hear the music. Nothing >> from the keys. >> >> Jim >> >> >
Re: [disklavier] Inactive M IV part 2
2014-01-20 by Spencer Chase
i don't know specifically how the dkv power supply works but most power supplies have rather large filter capacitors which will hold a charge for a long time. usually there is a bleeder resistor across the cap so it discharges once the supply is turned off. the larger the resistor value, the slower the discharge and the less energy wasted heating up the resistor. you have to choose a compromise between wasted power and fast shutdown. maybe Yamaha decide to be very green??? this is what i tend to do. On 1/20/2014 2:07 PM, Horatio Kemeny wrote: > I'm curious if anyone has some insight as to why powering down for so > long is necessary? Most electronics require a few seconds at most to > be completely powered off and ready for a full reset. > > What (and how) could something still be going on with no power to the > system at all? > > I'm not questioning the validity of the strategy as it seems to work > and the time, as per this example, makes a difference. > > But what's actually going on? > > .....HK > > > On Jan 20, 2014, at 2:02 PM, James W Kenney <jimwkenney@... > <mailto:jimwkenney@...>> wrote: > >> Bill >> Thank you again. The fix worked. I had powered down, but quickly >> rebooted. That did not work. >> >> Jim >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Bill Brandom <bill.brandom03@... >> <mailto:bill.brandom03@...>> >> To: disklavier <disklavier@yahoogroups.com >> <mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com>> >> Sent: Mon, Jan 20, 2014 12:17 am >> Subject: Re: [disklavier] Inactive M IV part 2 >> >> James, >> >> Completely power down the Disklavier by holding in the oblong green >> on/off button. After it quits blinking, unplug it from the wall and >> let it sit about an hour. >> >> Plug it back, in and power it up. I think you will find the keys and >> pedals will start playing again for you. >> >> You MUST unplug the piano from power for this to work. >> >> Bill >> >> >> On Sun, Jan 19, 2014 at 6:24 PM, James W Kenney >> <jimwkenney@... <mailto:jimwkenney@...>> wrote: >> >> I connected a set of ear phones and I can hear the music. Nothing >> from the keys. >> >> Jim >> >> > -- Best regards, Spencer Chase 67550-Bell Springs Rd. Garberville, CA 95542 Postal service only. Laytonville, CA 95454 UPS only. Spencer@... http://www.spencerserolls.com (707) 984-8356 (425) 791-0309
Re: [disklavier] Inactive M IV part 2
2014-01-20 by carwizard
I just power down for 20 seconds with good results Take Care, Neal Polan - President Affordable Classics, Inc. 310-542-5824 w On Jan 20, 2014, at 2:40 PM, "Emile van Sebille" <emile@...<mailto:emile@...>> wrote: I'm not sure my experience with computers is applicable to a Mark IV, but I commonly advise clients to unplug first the power, then disconnecting and reconnecting all other cables one-by-one, before replugging in power when I want a full system cold-start reboot to take place. The primary reason I do it is because in the past (I don't know for sure it's still valid) serial IO UARTs (still used in USB communications) could hold state (ie, strap a pin high) between reboots. That mainly occurred between different components, so maybe, as the Mark IV is a self contained system, unplugging from power serves that purpose as well. Cluelessly-y'rs, Emile On 1/20/2014 2:07 PM, Horatio Kemeny wrote: I'm curious if anyone has some insight as to why powering down for so long is necessary? Most electronics require a few seconds at most to be completely powered off and ready for a full reset. What (and how) could something still be going on with no power to the system at all? I'm not questioning the validity of the strategy as it seems to work and the time, as per this example, makes a difference. But what's actually going on? .....HK On Jan 20, 2014, at 2:02 PM, James W Kenney <jimwkenney@...<mailto:jimwkenney@...>> wrote: Bill Thank you again. The fix worked. I had powered down, but quickly rebooted. That did not work. Jim
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-----Original Message----- From: Bill Brandom <bill.brandom03@...<mailto:bill.brandom03@...>> To: disklavier <disklavier@yahoogroups.com<mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com>> Sent: Mon, Jan 20, 2014 12:17 am Subject: Re: [disklavier] Inactive M IV part 2 James, Completely power down the Disklavier by holding in the oblong green on/off button. After it quits blinking, unplug it from the wall and let it sit about an hour. Plug it back, in and power it up. I think you will find the keys and pedals will start playing again for you. You MUST unplug the piano from power for this to work. Bill On Sun, Jan 19, 2014 at 6:24 PM, James W Kenney <jimwkenney@...<mailto:jimwkenney@...>> wrote: I connected a set of ear phones and I can hear the music. Nothing from the keys. Jim
Re: [disklavier] Inactive M IV part 2
2014-01-20 by Kevin Goroway
If they were trying to be green with the power supply, they forgot to consider the rest of the system. It sucks down 75 watts in standby iirc...
Spencer Chase <lists@spencerserolls.com> wrote:
Spencer Chase <lists@spencerserolls.com> wrote:
i don't know specifically how the dkv power supply works but most
power supplies have rather large filter capacitors which will hold a
charge for a long time. usually there is a bleeder resistor across
the cap so it discharges once the supply is turned off. the larger
the resistor value, the slower the discharge and the less energy
wasted heating up the resistor. you have to choose a compromise
between wasted power and fast shutdown. maybe Yamaha decide to be
very green??? this is what i tend to do.
On 1/20/2014 2:07 PM, Horatio Kemeny
wrote:
I'm curious if anyone has some insight as to why powering down for so long is necessary? Most electronics require a few seconds at most to be completely powered off and ready for a full reset.
What (and how) could something still be going on with no power to the system at all?
I'm not questioning the validity of the strategy as it seems to work and the time, as per this example, makes a difference.
But what's actually going on?
.....HK
Bill
Thank you again. The fix worked. I had powered down, but quickly rebooted. That did not work.
Jim
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From: Bill Brandom <bill.brandom03@gmail.com>
To: disklavier <disklavier@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Mon, Jan 20, 2014 12:17 am
Subject: Re: [disklavier] Inactive M IV part 2
James,
Completely power down the Disklavier by holding in the oblong green on/off button. After it quits blinking, unplug it from the wall and let it sit about an hour.
Plug it back, in and power it up. I think you will find the keys and pedals will start playing again for you.
You MUST unplug the piano from power for this to work.
Bill
On Sun, Jan 19, 2014 at 6:24 PM, James W Kenney <jimwkenney@netscape.net> wrote:
I connected a set of ear phones and I can hear the music. Nothing from the keys.
Jim
-- Best regards, Spencer Chase 67550-Bell Springs Rd. Garberville, CA 95542 Postal service only. Laytonville, CA 95454 UPS only. Spencer@spencerserolls.com http://www.spencerserolls.com (707) 984-8356 (425) 791-0309
Re: [disklavier] Inactive M IV part 2
2014-01-21 by Spencer Chase
was being a little facetious. On 1/20/2014 3:23 PM, Kevin Goroway wrote: > > If they were trying to be green with the power supply, they forgot to > consider the rest of the system. It sucks down 75 watts in standby iirc... > > Spencer Chase <lists@...> wrote: > > i don't know specifically how the dkv power supply works but most > power supplies have rather large filter capacitors which will hold a > charge for a long time. usually there is a bleeder resistor across the > cap so it discharges once the supply is turned off. the larger the > resistor value, the slower the discharge and the less energy wasted > heating up the resistor. you have to choose a compromise between > wasted power and fast shutdown. maybe Yamaha decide to be very > green??? this is what i tend to do. > > On 1/20/2014 2:07 PM, Horatio Kemeny wrote: >> I'm curious if anyone has some insight as to why powering down for so >> long is necessary? Most electronics require a few seconds at most to >> be completely powered off and ready for a full reset. >> >> What (and how) could something still be going on with no power to the >> system at all? >> >> I'm not questioning the validity of the strategy as it seems to work >> and the time, as per this example, makes a difference. >> >> But what's actually going on? >> >> .....HK >> >> >> On Jan 20, 2014, at 2:02 PM, James W Kenney <jimwkenney@... >> <mailto:jimwkenney@...>> wrote: >> >>> Bill >>> Thank you again. The fix worked. I had powered down, but quickly >>> rebooted. That did not work. >>> >>> Jim >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Bill Brandom <bill.brandom03@... >>> <mailto:bill.brandom03@...>> >>> To: disklavier <disklavier@yahoogroups.com >>> <mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com>> >>> Sent: Mon, Jan 20, 2014 12:17 am >>> Subject: Re: [disklavier] Inactive M IV part 2 >>> >>> James, >>> >>> Completely power down the Disklavier by holding in the oblong green >>> on/off button. After it quits blinking, unplug it from the wall and >>> let it sit about an hour. >>> >>> Plug it back, in and power it up. I think you will find the keys and >>> pedals will start playing again for you. >>> >>> You MUST unplug the piano from power for this to work. >>> >>> Bill >>> >>> >>> On Sun, Jan 19, 2014 at 6:24 PM, James W Kenney >>> <jimwkenney@... <mailto:jimwkenney@...>> wrote: >>> >>> I connected a set of ear phones and I can hear the music. >>> Nothing from the keys. >>> >>> Jim >>> >>> > > -- > > Best regards, Spencer Chase > 67550-Bell Springs Rd. > Garberville, CA 95542 Postal service only. > Laytonville, CA 95454 UPS only. > Spencer@... > http://www.spencerserolls.com > (707) 984-8356 > (425) 791-0309 > -- Best regards, Spencer Chase 67550-Bell Springs Rd. Garberville, CA 95542 Postal service only. Laytonville, CA 95454 UPS only. Spencer@... http://www.spencerserolls.com (707) 984-8356 (425) 791-0309
Re: [disklavier] Inactive M IV part 2
2014-01-21 by Skanter123
As a new DKL owner, I'm curious about other users. (Is there a poll section for this?) How many of you play piano vs listen to playback only? Do many use silent function? With internal sounds, or with virtual piano on computer? Do you buy pianosoft music, or mostly public domain MIDI files? Thanks in advance... Sam www.keyboardcollective.com (212) 684-3304
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> On Jan 20, 2014, at 6:22 PM, carwizard <carwizard@...> wrote: > > I just power down for 20 seconds with good results > > Take Care, > Neal Polan - President > Affordable Classics, Inc. > 310-542-5824 w > > > On Jan 20, 2014, at 2:40 PM, "Emile van Sebille" <emile@...> wrote: > > > > I'm not sure my experience with computers is applicable to a Mark IV, but I commonly advise clients to unplug first the power, then disconnecting and reconnecting all other cables one-by-one, before replugging in power when I want a full system cold-start reboot to take place. The primary reason I do it is because in the past (I don't know for sure it's still valid) serial IO UARTs (still used in USB communications) could hold state (ie, strap a pin high) between reboots. That mainly occurred between different components, so maybe, as the Mark IV is a self contained system, unplugging from power serves that purpose as well. > > Cluelessly-y'rs, > > Emile > > >> On 1/20/2014 2:07 PM, Horatio Kemeny wrote: >> >> I'm curious if anyone has some insight as to why powering down for so long is necessary? Most electronics require a few seconds at most to be completely powered off and ready for a full reset. >> >> What (and how) could something still be going on with no power to the system at all? >> >> I'm not questioning the validity of the strategy as it seems to work and the time, as per this example, makes a difference. >> >> But what's actually going on? >> >> .....HK >> >> >> On Jan 20, 2014, at 2:02 PM, James W Kenney <jimwkenney@...> wrote: >> >>> >>> Bill >>> Thank you again. The fix worked. I had powered down, but quickly rebooted. That did not work. >>> >>> Jim >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Bill Brandom <bill.brandom03@...> >>> To: disklavier <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> >>> Sent: Mon, Jan 20, 2014 12:17 am >>> Subject: Re: [disklavier] Inactive M IV part 2 >>> >>> >>> James, >>> >>> Completely power down the Disklavier by holding in the oblong green on/off button. After it quits blinking, unplug it from the wall and let it sit about an hour. >>> >>> Plug it back, in and power it up. I think you will find the keys and pedals will start playing again for you. >>> >>> You MUST unplug the piano from power for this to work. >>> >>> Bill >>> >>> >>>> On Sun, Jan 19, 2014 at 6:24 PM, James W Kenney <jimwkenney@...> wrote: >>>> >>>> I connected a set of ear phones and I can hear the music. Nothing from the keys. >>>> >>>> Jim > >
Re: [disklavier] Inactive M IV part 2
2014-01-21 by <skanter123@...>
Ignore previous post - found poll section.