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2015-11-09 by zzzdcline@...
Kind of a long story so I made a video to explain it:
Disklavier Assistance Needed-09Nov2015
Please see the text description with the video for addl info.
Many thanks!
Ed
2015-11-11 by zzzdcline@...
2015-11-11 by Bill Brandom
Make sure the Disklavier MIDI OUT is set to KEYBOARD OUT. Bill Love God. Love People. Make a difference. On Nov 11, 2015, at 9:17 AM, zzzdcline@yahoo.com [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote: **UPDATE/11Nov2015**: I was able to get the piano to play from the software program. Instead of having Piano Rec Ch=Prg , I changed it to Piano Rec Ch=Prg(All). See the link below for a picture. I still can't get my playing on the piano to show up in the software program. Still need hellllpppppp! https://studio808.smugmug.com/Misc/Piano/i-3q2K95q/0/X2/Disklavier-11Nov2015-X2.jpg https://studio808.smugmug.com/Misc/Piano/i-3q 2K95q/0/X2/... View on studio808.smugmug.com Preview by Yahoo
2015-11-11 by George Frederick Litterst
Good afternoon, everyone. Ed, I agree with Bill about the settings. You might also see which channel the piano the transmitting on. Best to have it transmit on Channel 1 which is the default. Your software may or may not be listening to all MIDI channels. I did watch your video and have a couple of comments. First, it does make a difference as to which plugs on the interface are connected to MIDI In and MIDI Out. In your case, you obviously have it connected correctly. In your software setup, you noticed that the software has a green light that suggests that it is getting data from the piano. Yamaha keyboards typically send Active Sensing data. My guess is that the green light is constantly green because it is responding to active sensing. In the video you wondered about the Disklavier’s Remote feature. That has nothing to do with this. The Remote feature is rather obscure and has to do with controlling the Disklavier’s transport buttons from external MIDI (or the reverse). In your video you also wondered about Local Control. LC refers to whether the instrument is generating sounds internally when you play the keys. Since the piano is an acoustic piano, I think that setting is irrelevant. Bottom line: double-check that MIDI Out is set to Keyboard Out and that the MIDI Out channel is #1. If that doesn’t work, make sure that the piano can record a new song (which will be a test that it is sensing the keys). Regards, PianoBench
> On Nov 11, 2015, at 12:31 PM, Bill Brandom billbrando@... [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > > Make sure the Disklavier MIDI OUT is set to KEYBOARD OUT. > > Bill > Love God. Love People. Make a difference. > > > On Nov 11, 2015, at 9:17 AM, zzzdcline@... <mailto:zzzdcline@...> [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com <mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com>> wrote: > > > > **UPDATE/11Nov2015**: I was able to get the piano to play from the software program. Instead of having Piano Rec Ch=Prg , I changed it to Piano Rec Ch=Prg(All). See the link below for a picture. I still can't get my playing on the piano to show up in the software program. Still need hellllpppppp! > https://studio808.smugmug.com/Misc/Piano/i-3q2K95q/0/X2/Disklavier-11Nov2015-X2.jpg <https://studio808.smugmug.com/Misc/Piano/i-3q2K95q/0/X2/Disklavier-11Nov2015-X2.jpg> > < /div> > <https://studio808.smugmug.com/Misc/Piano/i-3q2K95q/0/X2/Disklavier-11Nov2015-X2.jpg> > https://studio808.smugmug.com/Misc/Piano/i-3q 2K95q/0/X2/... <https://studio808.smugmug.com/Misc/Piano/i-3q2K95q/0/X2/Disklavier-11Nov2015-X2.jpg> > View on studio808.smugmug.com <https://studio808.smugmug.com/Misc/Piano/i-3q2K95q/0/X2/Disklavier-11Nov2015-X2.jpg> > Preview by Yahoo > > > >
2015-11-12 by Edward Getley
Thanks! Both eMedia and Yamaha have contacted me. eMedia provided some suggestions and Yamaha wants me to call them, which I will do. If I ever get it up and running I will make a new vid detailing the procedure. Ed
2015-11-12 by Edward Getley
Yes, the piano can record a song played on the keys just fine. Ed
From: disklavier@yahoogroups.com [mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 12:52 PM To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [disklavier] MarkIIXG- connecting computer for teaching software Good afternoon, everyone. Ed, I agree with Bill about the settings. You might also see which channel the piano the transmitting on. Best to have it transmit on Channel 1 which is the default. Your software may or may not be listening to all MIDI channels. I did watch your video and have a couple of comments. First, it does make a difference as to which plugs on the interface are connected to MIDI In and MIDI Out. In your case, you obviously have it connected correctly. In your software setup, you noticed that the software has a green light that suggests that it is getting data from the piano. Yamaha keyboards typically send Active Sensing data. My guess is that the green light is constantly green because it is responding to active sensing. In the video you wondered about the Disklavier’s Remote feature. That has nothing to do with this. The Remote feature is rather obscure and has to do with controlling the Disklavier’s transport buttons from external MIDI (or the reverse). In your video you also wondered about Local Control. LC refers to whether the instrument is generating sounds internally when you play the keys. Since the piano is an acoustic piano, I think that setting is irrelevant. Bottom line: double-check that MIDI Out is set to Keyboard Out and that the MIDI Out channel is #1. If that doesn’t work, make sure that the piano can record a new song (which will be a test that it is sensing the keys). Regards, PianoBench On Nov 11, 2015, at 12:31 PM, Bill Brandom billbrando@... <mailto:billbrando@...> [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com <mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com> > wrote: Make sure the Disklavier MIDI OUT is set to KEYBOARD OUT. Bill Love God. Love People. Make a difference. On Nov 11, 2015, at 9:17 AM, zzzdcline@yahoo.com <mailto:zzzdcline@...> [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com <mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com> > wrote: **UPDATE/11Nov2015**: I was able to get the piano to play from the software program. Instead of having Piano Rec Ch=Prg , I changed it to Piano Rec Ch=Prg(All). See the link below for a picture. I still can't get my playing on the piano to show up in the software program. Still need hellllpppppp! https://studio808.smugmug.com/Misc/Piano/i-3q2K95q/0/X2/Disklavier-11Nov2015-X2.jpg < /div> <https://studio808.smugmug.com/Misc/Piano/i-3q2K95q/0/X2/Disklavier-11Nov2015-X2.jpg> <https://studio808.smugmug.com/Misc/Piano/i-3q2K95q/0/X2/Disklavier-11Nov2015-X2.jpg> https://studio808.smugmug.com/Misc/Piano/i-3q 2K95q/0/X2/... <https://studio808.smugmug.com/Misc/Piano/i-3q2K95q/0/X2/Disklavier-11Nov2015-X2.jpg> View on studio808.smugmug.com Preview by Yahoo
2015-11-14 by Sheldon Deluty
Does anyone know how to open the midi files contained in the Yamaha Disklavier E3 Sample Disc on a PC based sequencer program such as Cakewalk, in order to edit specific parameters such as velocity, volume, etc. Windows Explorer shows the files as .mid files but I cannot get any sequencer program to open and play the files. They all say it is an incompatible format. I would like to be able to adjust velocity and volume of various instruments for the particular acoustics of the room where my Disklavier with DKC-850 is located but am unable to do so. Any help or advice would be most appreciated. Sheldon Deluty
2015-11-15 by Spencer Chase
Does anyone know how to open the midi files contained in the Yamaha Disklavier E3 Sample Disc on a PC based sequencer program such as Cakewalk, in order to edit specific parameters such as velocity, volume, etc.
Windows Explorer shows the files as .mid files but I cannot get any sequencer program to open and play the files. They all say it is an incompatible format.
I would like to be able to adjust velocity and volume of various instruments for the particular acoustics of the room where my Disklavier with DKC-850 is located but am unable to do so.
Any help or advice would be most appreciated.
Sheldon Deluty
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2015-11-17 by zzzdcline@...
2015-11-26 by zzzdcline@...
2015-11-26 by George Frederick Litterst
Good morning, everyone. Ed, a few questions and suggestions: What 2 programs are you trying? What MIDI interface did you get? In both cases, do these applications show your new interface as an available MIDI Input and Output device? (If so, I am assuming that you have chosen the interface for MIDI input.) With the new interface, do both programs successfully send MIDI data to the piano and its tone generator? If everything is connected, configured, and working correctly except that your piano is not sending MIDI data to these apps, then I recommend double-checking these items: (1) Verify that you can record a piece on your Disklavier. If successful, we know that the piano is sensing your playing. (2) Disklavier MIDI Out = Keyboard Out (3) MIDI Out Channel = 1. (4) MIDI Out Prg = ### (6) MIDI Out Vol. = ### (7) MIDI Out Split set to [OFF] (8) MIDI toggle switch on the back of the control unit is set to MIDI. If your apps still do not receive MIDI data when you play the keys, try playing an ensemble recording from disk (i.e. recording with both piano and ensemble parts) and see if the applications respond to anything. If you still fail, call Yamaha Piano Service: (800) 854-1569 between 8:30-5:00 PST on workdays. Regards and happy Thanksgiving, PianoBench
> On Nov 26, 2015, at 9:15 AM, zzzdcline@... [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > Got the new cable, no difference. Tried 2 different software programs, same issues. Expensive piano but unable to use teaching software. I'm dumbfounded. Oh, woe is me. Sigh. > > Will still fiddle with it when I have time, maybe miracle will happen. > Ed > >
2015-11-27 by Edward Getley
Ed, a few questions and suggestions: What 2 programs are you trying? eMedia Piano and Keyboard Method, Version 3. (http://www.emediamusic.com/keyboard-piano-lessons/beginner-piano-method.html ) and web based Piano Marvel (http://www.pianomarvel.com/product-overview ) I just have the 30 day free trial for Piano Marvel What MIDI interface did you get? Mio Midi to USB Interface (http://www.iconnectivity.com/products/midi/mio ) In both cases, do these applications show your new interface as an available MIDI Input and Output device? (If so, I am assuming that you have chosen the interface for MIDI input.) -Yes With the new interface, do both programs successfully send MIDI data to the piano and its tone generator? No If everything is connected, configured, and working correctly except that your piano is not sending MIDI data to these apps, then I recommend double-checking these items: Seems to work OK for me playing the piano and sending that data to either program. What doesn’t work is either software, when playing the lesson it does not play, or play correctly on my piano. I should be able to hear it actually being played and watch the keys moving so that when I play I can attempt to do as well. (1) Verify that you can record a piece on your Disklavier. If successful, we know that the piano is sensing your playing. Yes, records fine. (2) Disklavier MIDI Out = Keyboard Out Yes (3) MIDI Out Channel = 1. Yes (4) MIDI Out Prg = ### Yes (6) MIDI Out Vol. = ### Yes (7) MIDI Out Split set to [OFF] Yes (8) MIDI toggle switch on the back of the control unit is set to MIDI. Yes If your apps still do not receive MIDI data when you play the keys, try playing an ensemble recording from disk (i.e. recording with both piano and ensemble parts) and see if the applications respond to anything. Sometimes, depending on what “Piano” is set to, I will get ensemble playing through speakers but either nothing on keys, something on keys, or wrong octaves, etc, etc. on keys. Seems that my playing and sending to either program seems to work on just about any midi channel you choose. I have tried many but am leaving it at Ch 1. The piano part outputs from either program will not play properly on the keyboard regardless of what choices I make for Piano Part and I have tried many channels, Prg, Prg(all), HP, etc. Back in the old days when I had Windows 95 with “Teach Me Piano” and the Yamaha special “To Host” cable out to serial port on older computers and switch set to PC2, that setup worked fine. Maybe it is just old technology in my Mark II XG? I was going to buy some more teaching software (http://www.playgroundsessions.com/ ) but if I can’t get the lessons to play actually on the piano, I’m missing part of the instruction. I don’t want to hear it through the computer speakers. I think I have tried almost every combination of settings for the Piano Part so maybe I can just get some practice by playing the notes – at least that is something. Really appreciate all your efforts!
From: disklavier@yahoogroups.com [mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com] Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2015 9:44 AM To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [disklavier] MarkIIXG- connecting computer for teaching software Good morning, everyone. Ed, a few questions and suggestions: What 2 programs are you trying? What MIDI interface did you get? In both cases, do these applications show your new interface as an available MIDI Input and Output device? (If so, I am assuming that you have chosen the interface for MIDI input.) With the new interface, do both programs successfully send MIDI data to the piano and its tone generator? If everything is connected, configured, and working correctly except that your piano is not sending MIDI data to these apps, then I recommend double-checking these items: (1) Verify that you can record a piece on your Disklavier. If successful, we know that the piano is sensing your playing. (2) Disklavier MIDI Out = Keyboard Out (3) MIDI Out Channel = 1. (4) MIDI Out Prg = ### (6) MIDI Out Vol. = ### (7) MIDI Out Split set to [OFF] (8) MIDI toggle switch on the back of the control unit is set to MIDI. If your apps still do not receive MIDI data when you play the keys, try playing an ensemble recording from disk (i.e. recording with both piano and ensemble parts) and see if the applications respond to anything. If you still fail, call Yamaha Piano Service: (800) 854-1569 between 8:30-5:00 PST on workdays. Regards and happy Thanksgiving, PianoBench On Nov 26, 2015, at 9:15 AM, zzzdcline@... <mailto:zzzdcline@...> [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com <mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com> > wrote: Got the new cable, no difference. Tried 2 different software programs, same issues. Expensive piano but unable to use teaching software. I'm dumbfounded. Oh, woe is me. Sigh. Will still fiddle with it when I have time, maybe miracle will happen. Ed
