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Mark IV Hard drive replaced - want to clone and replace with SSD

Mark IV Hard drive replaced - want to clone and replace with SSD

2018-02-09 by paujones.pub@...

Folks,

It has been about 8 years or more since I was on the group. My Disklavier worked great for years, then sat unplugged for a few months and would not boot. I figured out how to get the action freed so we could play acoustically and we are finally getting around to getting it working electronically. I did troubleshooting with Yamaha and sent hard drive in. It was bad.

I just received a replacement Hitachi Deskstar drive from Yamaha after a 2-week process to get them to try to reformat and reload my failed hard drive. The new one has not been installed yet. I would like to clone the new drive and convert to an SSD. I saw the messages referring to the IDE to SATA adapter and references to various SSD's. I'm running the latest Yamaha DC2M4 Mark IV software - 4.2.3 I believe, per Martin at Yamaha.

I mostly have Mac's at home (Macbook, iMac and Mac Mini). I assume there might be a USB-to-IDE drive unit and some software to get the SATA drive talking and cloning, but I think I will just take it to the local computer shop and have them do it.

For the local computer tech, are there any known gotcha's or specific things I should get/try/set with the transfer? I assume the new SSD has to be bootable and I will just install the adapter, plug in the data and power cables, get it mounted in a 2.5 - 3.5" conversion frame, and fire it up.

Are Disklavier owners having good reliability with the IDE to SATA/PATA adapters? Any ones that are good or bad?

Are there any other service items inside the computer while I have it out? Like a battery that should be replaced or things like that?

Many thanks and sorry for newbie questions. Paul Jones


Re: [disklavier] Mark IV Hard drive replaced - want to clone and replace with SSD

2018-02-10 by Kevin Goroway

Paul,
If your new drive from Yamaha is actually blank (doesn't have any of your recovered recordings or anything) then I don't think you have to go through the trouble of cloning it.  As I recall, there is a process by which you can boot off floppy, and using a CD image, you can initialize the hard drive that is in the piano...In this case, you'd install the SSD, and let the piano prepare it for you.  The only downside that I can think of is you'd miss the step that allows you to utilize more space on the SSD.  That might not be important to you.
Hopefully someone chimes it with more information.
But, to answer your other questions...no issues whatsoever...it just works.
-Kevin

    On Friday, February 9, 2018, 8:17:51 PM EST, paujones.pub@... [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote:  
 
     
Folks,

It has been about 8 years or more since I was on the group.  My Disklavier worked great for years, then sat unplugged for a few months and would not boot.  I figured out how to get the action freed so we could play acoustically and we are finally getting around to getting it working electronically.  I did troubleshooting with Yamaha and sent hard drive in.  It was bad. 
 
I just received a replacement Hitachi Deskstar drive from Yamaha after a 2-week process to get them to try to reformat and reload my failed hard drive.  The new one has not been installed yet.  I would like to clone the new drive and convert to an SSD.  I saw the messages referring to the IDE to SATA adapter and references to various SSD's.  I'm running the latest Yamaha DC2M4 Mark IV software - 4.2.3 I believe, per Martin at Yamaha.  

I mostly have Mac's at home (Macbook, iMac and Mac Mini).  I assume there might be a USB-to-IDE drive unit and some software to get the SATA drive talking and cloning, but I think I will just take it to the local computer shop and have them do it.  
 
For the local computer tech, are there any known gotcha's or specific things I should get/try/set with the transfer?  I assume the new SSD has to be bootable and I will just install the adapter, plug in the data and power cables, get it mounted in a 2.5 - 3.5" conversion frame, and fire it up.    

Are Disklavier owners having good reliability with the IDE to SATA/PATA adapters?  Any ones that are good or bad? 

Are there any other service items inside the computer while I have it out?  Like a battery that should be replaced or things like that?  

Many thanks and sorry for newbie questions.   Paul Jones

Re: [disklavier] Mark IV Hard drive replaced - want to clone and replace with SSD

2018-02-11 by paujones.pub@...

The new drive is a standard 80Gb Hitachi deskstar that was Data April 2008.  martin at Yamaha installed the 4.2.3 software image and default music files.  It’s too bad because my old drive had dozens of CD’a worth of music and handled of midi files.  

I did get a kit at Central computer and it won’t be a problem to install the new SSD.

One question the Tech mentioned was that the Yamaha drive runs Linux and had many partitions.  Going from the 80GB to a 500GB Drive is easy, but not knowing where to allocate the extra space for new music is tough. 

If any one who has done a conversion knows who to setup the partitions correctly, that would really help.  

My current plan was to just install the replacement drive load up some new music and midi files, pull it back out, take it back to the Tech who will try to figure out which partition received the new files.  

If someone knows if the other method of just restoring from scratch with the floppies abs CD’s and a larger 500GB SSD will yield the space and the performance, I might just do that instead. 

Many thanks in advance for the advice!

Paul

Re: [disklavier] Mark IV Hard drive replaced - want to clone and replace with SSD

2018-02-12 by Kevin Goroway

There is a PDF or Word doc floating around that describes the entire process, in exquisite detail.  I tried to find it in the documents area of this group, but wasn't able to.  Can someone help dig up the document I'm talking about? 
In lieu of that, if you just go to the yahoo groups page for this group, and search SSD, there's a ton of information from all of thus that have done this already.
-Kevin
    On Sunday, February 11, 2018, 5:29:04 AM EST, paujones.pub@... [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote:  
 
     
The new drive is a standard 80Gb Hitachi deskstar that was Data April 2008. martin at Yamaha installed the 4.2.3 software image and default music files. It’s too bad because my old drive had dozens of CD’a worth of music and handled of midi files. 

I did get a kit at Central computer and it won’t be a problem to install the new SSD.

One question the Tech mentioned was that the Yamaha drive runs Linux and had many partitions. Going from the 80GB to a 500GB Drive is easy, but not knowing where to allocate the extra space for new music is tough. 

If any one who has done a conversion knows who to setup the partitions correctly, that would really help. 

My current plan was to just install the replacement drive load up some new music and midi files, pull it back out, take it back to the Tech who will try to figure out which partition received the new files. 

If someone knows if the other method of just restoring from scratch with the floppies abs CD’s and a larger 500GB SSD will yield the space and the performance, I might just do that instead. 

Many thanks in advance for the advice!

Paul

Re: [disklavier] Mark IV Hard drive replaced - want to clone and replace with SSD

2019-04-13 by Stephen Alston

Did anyone have success finding this document? I went to the Yahoo Groups page and found a post à Detailed Procedure for Replacing the Internal HD of a Mark IV Disklavier with an SSD by Tom Wheeler, however it looks like that link takes you to another site (looks Chinese) and the Web page says “Virus Found”

Re: [disklavier] Mark IV Hard drive replaced - want to clone and replace with SSD [1 Attachment]

2019-04-13 by Kevin Goroway

Tom,
Rest assured that there was interest.  I used it as a guide when I did the procedure many years ago...
Thanks for posting it!
-Kevin
    On Saturday, April 13, 2019, 2:21:52 PM EDT, thomaswheeler226@... [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote:  
 
     [Attachment(s) from thomaswheeler226@... [disklavier] included below] 
I have no idea why this file has become corrupted.  I posted it in February 2015 and it never received any interest,  In any case I am attaching the detailed procedure to this response. 

Tom Wheeler

Re: [disklavier] Mark IV Hard drive replaced - want to clone and replace with SSD

2019-04-14 by Glenn Smutny

Hi Kevin,

Is a copy of that document still available? I would like to upgrade my drive to a SSD at some point. It would be good to have a copy of it in my files. If you could help, it would be most appreciated. Thank you. 

Glenn 
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> On Apr 13, 2019, at 6:39 PM, Kevin Goroway kgoroway@... [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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> Tom,
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> Rest assured that there was interest.  I used it as a guide when I did the procedure many years ago...
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> Thanks for posting it!
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> -Kevin
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> On Saturday, April 13, 2019, 2:21:52 PM EDT, thomaswheeler226@... <mailto:thomaswheeler226@...> [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com <mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com>> wrote:
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> [Attachment(s) <x-msg://1/#TopText> from thomaswheeler226@... <mailto:thomaswheeler226@...> [disklavier] included below]
> I have no idea why this file has become corrupted.  I posted it in February 2015 and it never received any interest,  In any case I am attaching the detailed procedure to this response. 
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> Tom Wheeler
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Re: [disklavier] Mark IV Hard drive replaced - want to clone and replace with SSD

2019-04-16 by Kevin Goroway

If you follow this thread, Tom included it as an attachment...He is the author.
    On Monday, April 15, 2019, 4:51:15 PM EDT, Glenn Smutny G.SMUTNY@COMCAST.net [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote:  
 
     

Hi Kevin,
Is a copy of that document still available? I would like to upgrade my drive to a SSD at some point. It would be good to have a copy of it in my files. If you could help, it would be most appreciated. Thank you. 
Glenn 



On Apr 13, 2019, at 6:39 PM, Kevin Goroway kgoroway@yahoo.com [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Tom,
Rest assured that there was interest.  I used it as a guide when I did the procedure many years ago...
Thanks for posting it!
-Kevin
On Saturday, April 13, 2019, 2:21:52 PM EDT, thomaswheeler226@... [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 [Attachment(s) from thomaswheeler226@... [disklavier] included below]
I have no idea why this file has become corrupted.  I posted it in February 2015 and it never received any interest,  In any case I am attaching the detailed procedure to this response. 

Tom Wheeler

Re: [disklavier] Re: Mark IV Hard drive replaced - want to clone and replace with SSD

2019-08-07 by Kevin Goroway

I did it myself, but I have plenty of experience with these things.  I think you should be okay if you follow the directions closely.  Though, to be honest, it's been a long time now, so I don't recall how good the instructions were.

    On Wednesday, August 7, 2019, 01:46:10 PM EDT, wdwortley@... [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote:  
 
     
Kevin - did you do the conversion yourself or did you hire a certified tech as mentioned in the instructions? I'm keen to try it, but I've never worked on Linux and am a little apprehensive about the cloning process.

Move to quarantaine

This moves the raw source file on disk only. The archive index is not changed automatically, so you still need to run a manual refresh afterward.