Disklavier

my unit type is: DKC 5R can someone help me what to do for 
downloading songs, and put them in my diskklavier??
it seems i have problem with my disks? i use 3,5 1,44 disks

Gr. Bas

PianoBench's suggestion for buying the DSR1 is the best advice in the long 
run.  It is truly the least hassle solution.

However, if you need music for a party tonight, use the blank diskette that 
came with your piano.  It should be a 720k double density disk.  Format this 
disk in your Disklavier and record a song on it. (To format the disk for the 
MX80 press the Record button while holding down the Stop button.  Then press 
Play twice.)

Download the dkvutil program from the file vault as well as some music files 
with the .fil extension.  Run the disk copy program - dkvcopy - on the disk 
you just recorded on and use the same disk for the copy as well as the 
target.  Now your computer will see this disk because something has been 
written on the first sector.  Transfer some of those .fil songs to this 
disk.  You may also need to run the Explore utility.  Your disklavier should 
see these files.  Some folks have claimed to be able to tape over the left 
hole on a high density disk (1.44) and fake the dkv into thinking it is a 
720k disk.  I never was successful at this.

By time I send this, it will be about 10:00 pm your time.  Maybe try this 
tomorrow, and just have a little more cheer tonight!  Until you get the hang 
of these utilities, they can be very frustrating trying to get them to work 
on the fly.  Happy New Year!

Carol Beigel
crbrpt@...

>From: "bassie712000 <basgestel@...>" <basgestel@...>
>Reply-To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
>To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [disklavier] problem downloading for diskklavier
>Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2002 19:17:40 -0000
>
>my unit type is: DKC 5R can someone help me what to do for
>downloading songs, and put them in my diskklavier??
>it seems i have problem with my disks? i use 3,5 1,44 disks
>
>Gr. Bas
>


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Hello there...
I just bought a used Yamaha with a MX-80 unit and was
wondering also how to get MIDIs downloaded from the
Internet to play on the disklavier.  This thread is
very timely!  However, following Carol's instructions
(thank you) I have hit two dead ends. What am I doing
wrong?

From Carol's message earlier today:
> 
(1)It should be a 720k double density disk.  Format
this disk in your Disklavier and record a song on it.
Check! I recorded by daughter playing one of her
lessons.
> 
(2) Download the dkvutil program from the file vault
as well as some music files with the .fil extension.  
Check!  It has five applications and a text file with
instructions.

(3) Run the disk copy program - dkvcopy - on the disk 
you just recorded on and use the same disk for the
copy as well as the target.  Now your computer will
see this disk because something has been written on
the first sector.   Check! I saw some action on the
screen--too fast to note what I saw--and then it was
finished.

(4) Transfer some of those .fil songs to this disk.  
This did not work!  The Windows message I got was:
"The disk in drive A is not formatted. Do you want to
format it now?" Of course, I declined; this is my
disklavier-formatted disk.)

(5) You may also need to run the Explore utility. Your
disklavier should see these files.  This also did not
work! The message I got was: "Windows has returned a
meaningless error code.  Is the disk write-protected,
perhaps?" The only option at this point is to close
the window.

Any suggestions as to what to do next (short of buying
a DSR1)??

Rich

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MX80s only use 720k double density disks and only play ESEQ files. Any MIDI 
files you download need to be converted to the ESEQ format (.fil) The 
dkvcopy only works in real DOS; not running in a DOS window.  You have to 
reboot your computer in DOS.  If you are running Windows XP you might be out 
of luck.  Someone got XP to work on a desktop with these utilities, but I 
did not get a laptop to work with XP Home.

If possible, use an older computer floppy drive and some older double 
density disks.  You can order them from www.shoplet.com  Some people have 
successfully used a piece of tape to cover one hole in a high density disk.

The Disklavier disks have nothing written in the first sector.  Your 
computer must see something in this sector in order to recognize the disk.  
You could try copying the Sample disk that came with your DKV to the blank 
disk using the dkvcopy utility.  Write protect the Sample Disk before you do 
this.  A floppy disk can hold as many as 59 songs depending upon their size.

I have found using the Giebler utilities (about $60) at www.giebler.com and 
a new supply of double density 720k disks works great.  The dkvutil also 
works very well. I also dedicate an old laptop runing Windows 95 to do this. 
  Even the old laptop with an 85 meg hardrive and a monochrome display 
runing Windows 3.1 is excellent for this purpose

However, the DSR1 plays high density disks and MIDI 0 and MIDI 1 formats and 
has the XG ensemble sounds as well.  It also has a memory disk built in.

Good luck!

Carol Beigel
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Rich

I also have an old MX-80.  One solution is to by-pass the whole floppy disc
step, if your computer is anywhere near your Disklavier.  I run a midi
cable from my Mac laptop directly into the DKV's MIDI IN port.  Not an
elegant solution, perhaps, but there is no conversion software for Macs vis
a vis .FIL files, anyway.  There are thousands of regular midi files on the
Net.  Just get a sequencer program that plays midi files (there are several
freeware and shareware versions,) and install a midi card if you don't have
one.

Happy New Year!

WSC

>Hello there...
>I just bought a used Yamaha with a MX-80 unit and was
>wondering also how to get MIDIs downloaded from the
>Internet to play on the disklavier.  This thread is
>very timely!  However, following Carol's instructions
>(thank you) I have hit two dead ends. What am I doing
>wrong?

Dear Carol and WSC,
Thanks for your replies.  I have a dozen 720K disks
from my old Mac days. However, presently I'm running
XP far away from the piano.  So a direct connect to
the disklavier is out of the question without a big
effort.  I'll keep my eyes open for one of the legacy
machines that can run dkvcopy, but it has become clear
that I'm better off upgrading to DSR1 to match my
desktop's capabilities.

MIDI Magic: thanks for the link to the "Hands On"
site. There is some cool stuff there.

Finally, I used to use Band-in-a-Box (at least a
couple of versions ago) when I had the Mac and a
portable Yamaha keyboard.  Let me echo that it is
great software if you are considering buying it.

Happy New Year to everyone here.

Rich

--- Carol Beigel <carolrpt@...> wrote:
The 
> dkvcopy only works in real DOS; not running in a DOS
> window.  You have to 
> reboot your computer in DOS.  If you are running
> Windows XP you might be out 
> of luck.  

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