Disklavier

Help!!!
 
I am trying to make my mind up about buying a White 2nd Hand Yamaha
Disklavier MX100II that I have seen for sale and I just cant make up my
mind.
 
I was curious to know what every ones opinion was as to if it's a good
deal or not.
 
I have seen the following for sale in the UK all priced at a total of
4500 quid :
 
  S/H MX100II WHITE DISKLAVIER
  1996 MODEL IN MINT CONDITION
  DUET STOOL
  20 YAMAHA DISKS
  2 YEAR G/TEE
  DELIVERY
  POST DELIVERY TUNING
 
Any thoughts ?
 
I also wondered what the resale value of a piano of this would be like
if we changed our mind in 12 months and decided to sell it ?
 
Thanks
 
Mark.

I have no idea how much a quid is.  If you live in the US, it would probably
considered a gray market product and you would not be able to get parts for
it.

A MX100II, since it doesn't also say XG, would have no tone generator
meaning it would play the piano only.  It also would not be able to read HD
floppy disks - only double density ones.  However, it will play standard
MIDI files in format 0 only, as well as Yamaha format files.

Of course, in my opinion, I would go play and listen to the piano first to
see if I liked it.

Carol Beigel

----- Original Message ----- 

From: <mark.carline@...>
To: <disklavier@yahoogroups.com>; <dug@...>
Sent: Friday, November 28, 2003 2:14 AM
Subject: [disklavier] 2nd Hand MX100II - Do I ? or Dont I ?


> Help!!!
>
> I am trying to make my mind up about buying a White 2nd Hand Yamaha
> Disklavier MX100II that I have seen for sale and I just cant make up my
> mind.
>
> I was curious to know what every ones opinion was as to if it's a good
> deal or not.
>
> I have seen the following for sale in the UK all priced at a total of
> 4500 quid :
>
>   S/H MX100II WHITE DISKLAVIER
>   1996 MODEL IN MINT CONDITION
>   DUET STOOL
>   20 YAMAHA DISKS
>   2 YEAR G/TEE
>   DELIVERY
>   POST DELIVERY TUNING
>
> Any thoughts ?
>
> I also wondered what the resale value of a piano of this would be like
> if we changed our mind in 12 months and decided to sell it ?
>
> Thanks
>
> Mark.
>

:) a quid is slang for £1 Pound. It sounds expensive to me. I brought a shop
demo (nearly new) MPX100XG for £5500 two years ago.

On 28/11/03 1:56 pm, "Carol Beigel" <crbrpt@...> wrote:

> I have no idea how much a quid is.  If you live in the US, it would probably
> considered a gray market product and you would not be able to get parts for
> it.
> 
> A MX100II, since it doesn't also say XG, would have no tone generator
> meaning it would play the piano only.  It also would not be able to read HD
> floppy disks - only double density ones.  However, it will play standard
> MIDI files in format 0 only, as well as Yamaha format files.
> 
> Of course, in my opinion, I would go play and listen to the piano first to
> see if I liked it.
> 
> Carol Beigel
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <mark.carline@...>
> To: <disklavier@yahoogroups.com>; <dug@netsurftech.com>
> Sent: Friday, November 28, 2003 2:14 AM
> Subject: [disklavier] 2nd Hand MX100II - Do I ? or Dont I ?
> 
> 
>> Help!!!
>> 
>> I am trying to make my mind up about buying a White 2nd Hand Yamaha
>> Disklavier MX100II that I have seen for sale and I just cant make up my
>> mind.
>> 
>> I was curious to know what every ones opinion was as to if it's a good
>> deal or not.
>> 
>> I have seen the following for sale in the UK all priced at a total of
>> 4500 quid :
>> 
>>   S/H MX100II WHITE DISKLAVIER
>>   1996 MODEL IN MINT CONDITION
>>   DUET STOOL
>>   20 YAMAHA DISKS
>>   2 YEAR G/TEE
>>   DELIVERY
>>   POST DELIVERY TUNING
>> 
>> Any thoughts ?
>> 
>> I also wondered what the resale value of a piano of this would be like
>> if we changed our mind in 12 months and decided to sell it ?
>> 
>> Thanks
>> 
>> Mark.
>> 
> 
> 
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On Fri, 28 Nov 2003, Gary Connoley wrote:
> :) a quid is slang for £1 Pound. It sounds expensive to me. I brought a shop
> demo (nearly new) MPX100XG for £5500 two years ago.

A brand new U1 has a street price in the UK of around 4,200UKP (UK
pounds), and disklaviers are obviously more expensive than that.  Based on
what I saw when looking for a piano earlier this year, secondhand U1's
start at about 1,800UKP for a 25-30 year old model, up to about 3,500UKP
for nearly new.

I bought my MPX1Z disklavier (Mark IIXG U1) in April for 6,000UKP end of
line and had the DCD1 thrown in free. I think I paid 6,500 in total for
the piano, a decent stool, collection of disks, and delivery.

The list price in the UK of the DU1A new is 8,500UKP I believe, but would
expect to see discounts appear once more places have them in stock. In
April I was advised not to wait for a DU1A because it would be many months
before they came into the UK - most dealers were quoting October or
November (apparently Yamaha has a supply problem).

Anyway, 4,500 UKP is possibly a bit expensive in my opinion. The the
actual piano hasn't changed much in the last few years (soft close
fallboard being about the only obvious one - but this may be present on a
1996 model).

Personally, I wouldnt pay that much for a non-XG disklavier without the
silent function (which is very useful for me). It might be worth haggling
with the dealer though - they probably took it as part exchange on a new
model. I guess it depends if you need / want the features on the new
models and can get the price down a little.

Regards,

James

I bought a DU1A in the U.S. for $10,400 (about 6000 British pounds) and think 
that the features on this newer model with full warranty are worth the 
upgrade over a lesser priced II XG model - and the one you are looking at may not 
have the XG tone generator.  Maybe the British market is very different and 
prices are higher but this is an imported item to either country. Good luck with 
your decision.  Jeff

Hi

My theatre company bought a disklavier DU1A last february for approx. 
10,000 Euros - that's around 9,600 UKP , or  12,000 US$ at today's 
exchange rates.
(I don't have the bill at home, could check it out next week.)

This price included of course 25% taxes (VAT here).

An, by the way at that time the Euro was low compared to what it is now. 

Jean Debefve
Belgium

Thanks for everyones emails on this but the other problem is that
disklavier pianos in the UK second hand market are very rare.

The cheapest ones I have seen (and would consider buying) are the
MX100II and I have not seen anything of a higher spec than these.

Unless anyone has one for sale or has seen any ?? (get in touch!).

The piano is really for my other half who plays the sax and wants to be
able to download the piano accompaniment to whatever sax piece shes
learning.

Plus we want it to look like a nice item of furniture which some of the
electronic ones don't.

Hi,

I agree with the previous comments (it's a bit expensive considering 
it's the 'plain' model), although if you don't want tone generators 
(it doesn't sound like you do) or silent mode (again, probably not 
if you're using it for accompaniment rather than practice in a small 
house), and if you can beat the dealer down a bit you may not mind.  

One thing I noted, however, is that you say it's a white one.  These 
are fairly unusual, particularly in private homes (how tasteless can 
one person be?).  The white uprights and grands are most commonly 
found in hotels and restaurants, and as such it might have been 
played a damn sight more than the average Disklavier.  You won't be 
able to tell from the outside as these tend not to have been 
played 'manually' and so can look mint.  You should think about 
getting the action checked out before purchase.


Charles


--- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, <mark.carline@b...> wrote:
> Help!!!
>  
> I am trying to make my mind up about buying a White 2nd Hand Yamaha
> Disklavier MX100II that I have seen for sale and I just cant make 
up my
> mind.