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How to Record from a Mark IV

2007-09-18 by robjohan

Hopefully someone out there can give us some help on this question ... 
we have a 6 month old Mark IV running 2.0 software and we want to 
record a piano piece that my daughter's accompanist recorded onto our 
piano's hard drive and burn the recording onto a CD so that we can use 
the CD in a regular CD player to accpmpany my daughter at a vocal 
audition. Is the only way to do this is to use a tape recorder or a PC 
with a micropuone and place it in the room with the piano and then 
record the piano playing the song we need?
Thanks

Re: [disklavier] How to Record from a Mark IV

2007-09-18 by Carol Beigel

The easiest way is to take the MIDI recording your Disklavier made and run 
it through your computer software.  In Pro Audio Tracks (www.pgmusic.com ) 
it is called "rendering" the MIDI file to digital audio file. The audio will 
be whatever sounds came with the soundcard on your computer.  This audio 
file can then be burnt to a CD.

I like to take the MIDI files and take them through a virtual piano (VST 
software that is installed on the computer) to get a fantastic audio 
sounding piano.  These are not cheap but sound great.  I use the Steinberg 
Grand I and Grand II VST pianos.

Another way is to take audio cables from the audio out on the DKV (setting 
the DKV  so the keyboard sounds are coming out the piano) into a digital 
audio converter box (I use an Eideral UA25) to make the audio file.  Try 
taking the audio sound of the piano off the headphone jack for an even 
better sound.

You should also have some audio editing software.  I am using an older 
version of Cool Edit, but I believe the newer Nero7 software suite also has 
an audio editor.  I believe PG music's Pro Audio Tracks also has both a MIDI 
and an audio editor.  It is also a great price!

Carol Beigel

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Subject: [disklavier] How to Record from a Mark IV


> Hopefully someone out there can give us some help on this question ...
> we have a 6 month old Mark IV running 2.0 software and we want to
> record a piano piece that my daughter's accompanist recorded onto our
> piano's hard drive and burn the recording onto a CD so that we can use
> the CD in a regular CD player to accpmpany my daughter at a vocal
> audition. Is the only way to do this is to use a tape recorder or a PC
> with a micropuone and place it in the room with the piano and then
> record the piano playing the song we need?
> Thanks
>
>
>
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Re: How to Record from a Mark IV

2007-09-18 by robjohan

Thanks Carol for your reply. But, how do I get the MIDI file 
transferred from teh piano's hard disk to my PC?




--- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, "Carol Beigel" <thecarolb@...> 
wrote:
>
> The easiest way is to take the MIDI recording your Disklavier made 
and run 
> it through your computer software.  In Pro Audio Tracks 
(www.pgmusic.com ) 
> it is called "rendering" the MIDI file to digital audio file. The 
audio will 
> be whatever sounds came with the soundcard on your computer.  This 
audio 
> file can then be burnt to a CD.
> 
> I like to take the MIDI files and take them through a virtual piano 
(VST 
> software that is installed on the computer) to get a fantastic 
audio 
> sounding piano.  These are not cheap but sound great.  I use the 
Steinberg 
> Grand I and Grand II VST pianos.
> 
> Another way is to take audio cables from the audio out on the DKV 
(setting 
> the DKV  so the keyboard sounds are coming out the piano) into a 
digital 
> audio converter box (I use an Eideral UA25) to make the audio 
file.  Try 
> taking the audio sound of the piano off the headphone jack for an 
even 
> better sound.
> 
> You should also have some audio editing software.  I am using an 
older 
> version of Cool Edit, but I believe the newer Nero7 software suite 
also has 
> an audio editor.  I believe PG music's Pro Audio Tracks also has 
both a MIDI 
> and an audio editor.  It is also a great price!
> 
> Carol Beigel
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "robjohan" <robjohan@...>
> To: <disklavier@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2007 8:16 AM
> Subject: [disklavier] How to Record from a Mark IV
> 
> 
> > Hopefully someone out there can give us some help on this 
question ...
> > we have a 6 month old Mark IV running 2.0 software and we want to
> > record a piano piece that my daughter's accompanist recorded onto 
our
> > piano's hard drive and burn the recording onto a CD so that we 
can use
> > the CD in a regular CD player to accpmpany my daughter at a vocal
> > audition. Is the only way to do this is to use a tape recorder or 
a PC
> > with a micropuone and place it in the room with the piano and then
> > record the piano playing the song we need?
> > Thanks
> >
> >
> >
> > To Post a message to the group, send it to:   disklavier@...
> >
> > To Post a private message to Todd Muncy, the group's founder and 
> > moderator, send it to:
> > disklavier-owner@...
> >
> > To reach our group's web site go to:
> > http://Yahoogroups.com/group/disklavier
> >
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> > If you are thinking of unsubcribing because you are getting too 
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Re: [disklavier] Re: How to Record from a Mark IV

2007-09-18 by Carol Beigel

Copy the song to the floppy disk drive in the DKV.

Carol

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From: "robjohan" <robjohan@...>
To: <disklavier@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2007 10:21 AM
Subject: [disklavier] Re: How to Record from a Mark IV


> Thanks Carol for your reply. But, how do I get the MIDI file
> transferred from teh piano's hard disk to my PC?
>
>
>
>
> --- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, "Carol Beigel" <thecarolb@...>
> wrote:
>>
>> The easiest way is to take the MIDI recording your Disklavier made
> and run
>> it through your computer software.  In Pro Audio Tracks
> (www.pgmusic.com )
>> it is called "rendering" the MIDI file to digital audio file. The
> audio will
>> be whatever sounds came with the soundcard on your computer.  This
> audio
>> file can then be burnt to a CD.
>>
>> I like to take the MIDI files and take them through a virtual piano
> (VST
>> software that is installed on the computer) to get a fantastic
> audio
>> sounding piano.  These are not cheap but sound great.  I use the
> Steinberg
>> Grand I and Grand II VST pianos.
>>
>> Another way is to take audio cables from the audio out on the DKV
> (setting
>> the DKV  so the keyboard sounds are coming out the piano) into a
> digital
>> audio converter box (I use an Eideral UA25) to make the audio
> file.  Try
>> taking the audio sound of the piano off the headphone jack for an
> even
>> better sound.
>>
>> You should also have some audio editing software.  I am using an
> older
>> version of Cool Edit, but I believe the newer Nero7 software suite
> also has
>> an audio editor.  I believe PG music's Pro Audio Tracks also has
> both a MIDI
>> and an audio editor.  It is also a great price!
>>
>> Carol Beigel
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "robjohan" <robjohan@...>
>> To: <disklavier@yahoogroups.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2007 8:16 AM
>> Subject: [disklavier] How to Record from a Mark IV
>>
>>
>> > Hopefully someone out there can give us some help on this
> question ...
>> > we have a 6 month old Mark IV running 2.0 software and we want to
>> > record a piano piece that my daughter's accompanist recorded onto
> our
>> > piano's hard drive and burn the recording onto a CD so that we
> can use
>> > the CD in a regular CD player to accpmpany my daughter at a vocal
>> > audition. Is the only way to do this is to use a tape recorder or
> a PC
>> > with a micropuone and place it in the room with the piano and then
>> > record the piano playing the song we need?
>> > Thanks
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > To Post a message to the group, send it to:   disklavier@...
>> >
>> > To Post a private message to Todd Muncy, the group's founder and
>> > moderator, send it to:
>> > disklavier-owner@...
>> >
>> > To reach our group's web site go to:
>> > http://Yahoogroups.com/group/disklavier
>> >
>> > THINKING OF LEAVING THE GROUP?
>> > If you are thinking of unsubcribing because you are getting too
> much mail,
>> > go the the web site and change your email delivery option
> instead.  That
>> > will fix the problem, while maintaining your access to the
> group.  If you
>> > insist on leaving us completely send a blank email to:
>> > disklavier-unsubscribe@...
>> >
>> > Know someone who wants to join?  Have them send a blank email to:
>> > disklavier-subscribe@... or give them this link:
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>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
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>
>
>
>
> To Post a message to the group, send it to:   disklavier@...
>
> To Post a private message to Todd Muncy, the group's founder and 
> moderator, send it to:
> disklavier-owner@...
>
> To reach our group's web site go to:
> http://Yahoogroups.com/group/disklavier
>
> THINKING OF LEAVING THE GROUP?
> If you are thinking of unsubcribing because you are getting too much mail, 
> go the the web site and change your email delivery option instead.  That 
> will fix the problem, while maintaining your access to the group.  If you 
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Re: How to Record from a Mark IV

2007-09-18 by jheitzeb1

I haven't done this to verify it, but it seems that if you have a Mark IV that you have 
wireless capability to transfer files To and From your Mark IV to your hard drive on your 
PC.  

I have transferred midi files from my PC (Mac) to the Disklavier Mark IV using the To/From 
PC option.  I have not transferred the midi files back to my Mac (PC), but you should be 
able to do this.  If you don't have a floppy drive on your PC to use, this would be a 
reasonable solution to transferring that midi file that you recorded.

It also seems reasonable to use iTunes either for the Mac or PC depending on the 
computer you have to burn a CD of this midi.  You can move the midi into iTunes.  Make a 
playlist and then burn the CD from iTunes.  Be sure to make it an 'audio CD' when you 
burn it so that it will be playable in ordinary CD players.  

I have not verified that the midi does convert to audio using iTunes, but it seems that if 
you can import it into iTunes that you could do so.  


Hope this doesn't confuse the issue, but these thoughts occurred to me and since the 
ability to transfer midi via WIFI exists on your Mark IV, why not use it instead of using 
floppy drive.  

Also, why buy another program if iTunes is free and available on the Mac and PC.  Worth 
trying as CD's are cheap these days and you could easily test to see if it works.  If I get 
time I will test this theory and make a CD of some of my midis and burn a CD to play thru 
a CD player.  I will post the results when I get the chance.

Joan

--- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, "Carol Beigel" <thecarolb@...> wrote:

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>
> Copy the song to the floppy disk drive in the DKV.
> 
> Carol
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "robjohan" <robjohan@...>
> To: <disklavier@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2007 10:21 AM
> Subject: [disklavier] Re: How to Record from a Mark IV
> 
> 
> > Thanks Carol for your reply. But, how do I get the MIDI file
> > transferred from teh piano's hard disk to my PC?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, "Carol Beigel" <thecarolb@>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> The easiest way is to take the MIDI recording your Disklavier made
> > and run
> >> it through your computer software.  In Pro Audio Tracks
> > (www.pgmusic.com )
> >> it is called "rendering" the MIDI file to digital audio file. The
> > audio will
> >> be whatever sounds came with the soundcard on your computer.  This
> > audio
> >> file can then be burnt to a CD.
> >>
> >> I like to take the MIDI files and take them through a virtual piano
> > (VST
> >> software that is installed on the computer) to get a fantastic
> > audio
> >> sounding piano.  These are not cheap but sound great.  I use the
> > Steinberg
> >> Grand I and Grand II VST pianos.
> >>
> >> Another way is to take audio cables from the audio out on the DKV
> > (setting
> >> the DKV  so the keyboard sounds are coming out the piano) into a
> > digital
> >> audio converter box (I use an Eideral UA25) to make the audio
> > file.  Try
> >> taking the audio sound of the piano off the headphone jack for an
> > even
> >> better sound.
> >>
> >> You should also have some audio editing software.  I am using an
> > older
> >> version of Cool Edit, but I believe the newer Nero7 software suite
> > also has
> >> an audio editor.  I believe PG music's Pro Audio Tracks also has
> > both a MIDI
> >> and an audio editor.  It is also a great price!
> >>
> >> Carol Beigel
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message ----- 
> >> From: "robjohan" <robjohan@>
> >> To: <disklavier@yahoogroups.com>
> >> Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2007 8:16 AM
> >> Subject: [disklavier] How to Record from a Mark IV
> >>
> >>
> >> > Hopefully someone out there can give us some help on this
> > question ...
> >> > we have a 6 month old Mark IV running 2.0 software and we want to
> >> > record a piano piece that my daughter's accompanist recorded onto
> > our
> >> > piano's hard drive and burn the recording onto a CD so that we
> > can use
> >> > the CD in a regular CD player to accpmpany my daughter at a vocal
> >> > audition. Is the only way to do this is to use a tape recorder or
> > a PC
> >> > with a micropuone and place it in the room with the piano and then
> >> > record the piano playing the song we need?
> >> > Thanks
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > To Post a message to the group, send it to:   disklavier@
> >> >
> >> > To Post a private message to Todd Muncy, the group's founder and
> >> > moderator, send it to:
> >> > disklavier-owner@
> >> >
> >> > To reach our group's web site go to:
> >> > http://Yahoogroups.com/group/disklavier
> >> >
> >> > THINKING OF LEAVING THE GROUP?
> >> > If you are thinking of unsubcribing because you are getting too
> > much mail,
> >> > go the the web site and change your email delivery option
> > instead.  That
> >> > will fix the problem, while maintaining your access to the
> > group.  If you
> >> > insist on leaving us completely send a blank email to:
> >> > disklavier-unsubscribe@
> >> >
> >> > Know someone who wants to join?  Have them send a blank email to:
> >> > disklavier-subscribe@ or give them this link:
> >> > http://Yahoogroups.com/group/disklavier/join
> >> >
> >> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > -- 
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> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > To Post a message to the group, send it to:   disklavier@...
> >
> > To Post a private message to Todd Muncy, the group's founder and 
> > moderator, send it to:
> > disklavier-owner@...
> >
> > To reach our group's web site go to:
> > http://Yahoogroups.com/group/disklavier
> >
> > THINKING OF LEAVING THE GROUP?
> > If you are thinking of unsubcribing because you are getting too much mail, 
> > go the the web site and change your email delivery option instead.  That 
> > will fix the problem, while maintaining your access to the group.  If you 
> > insist on leaving us completely send a blank email to:
> > disklavier-unsubscribe@...
> >
> > Know someone who wants to join?  Have them send a blank email to:
> > disklavier-subscribe@... or give them this link:
> > http://Yahoogroups.com/group/disklavier/join
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -- 
> > No virus found in this incoming message.
> > Checked by AVG Free Edition.
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> > 9/18/2007 11:53 AM
> >
> >
>

Re: [disklavier] Re: How to Record from a Mark IV

2007-09-18 by George F. Litterst

Good afternoon, everyone.

Transfering files on a Mark IV using FromToPC is a great option.

iTunes will open MIDI files on both platforms. However, using iTunes to convert a MIDI file to audio is not a great solution. iTunes uses the weak piano sound in the QuickTime GM Synth, and that sound does not understand incremental pedaling. So, in some cases, the playback may sound rather muddy.

iTunes does a nice job of taking audio files, letting you create a playlist, and then burning an audio CD.

Regards,

PianoBench

www.georgelitterst.com

www.timewarptech.com

On Sep 18, 2007, at 3:58 PM, jheitzeb1 wrote:

I haven't done this to verify it, but it seems that if you have a Mark IV that you have
wireless capability to transfer files To and From your Mark IV to your hard drive on your
PC.

I have transferred midi files from my PC (Mac) to the Disklavier Mark IV using the To/From
PC option. I have not transferred the midi files back to my Mac (PC), but you should be
able to do this. If you don't have a floppy drive on your PC to use, this would be a
reasonable solution to transferring that midi file that you recorded.

It also seems reasonable to use iTunes either for the Mac or PC depending on the
computer you have to burn a CD of this midi. You can move the midi into iTunes. Make a
playlist and then burn the CD from iTunes. Be sure to make it an 'audio CD' when you
burn it so that it will be playable in ordinary CD players.

I have not verified that the midi does convert to audio using iTunes, but it seems that if
you can import it into iTunes that you could do so.

Hope this doesn't confuse the issue, but these thoughts occurred to me and since the
ability to transfer midi via WIFI exists on your Mark IV, why not use it instead of using
floppy drive.

Also, why buy another program if iTunes is free and available on the Mac and PC. Worth
trying as CD's are cheap these days and you could easily test to see if it works. If I get
time I will test this theory and make a CD of some of my midis and burn a CD to play thru
a CD player. I will post the results when I get the chance.

Joan

--- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, "Carol Beigel" ..> wrote:
>
> Copy the song to the floppy disk drive in the DKV.
>
> Carol
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "robjohan" .>
> To: <disklavier@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2007 10:21 AM
> Subject: [disklavier] Re: How to Record from a Mark IV
>
>
> > Thanks Carol for your reply. But, how do I get the MIDI file
> > transferred from teh piano's hard disk to my PC?
> >
> >
> >;
> >
> > --- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, "Carol Beigel"
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> The easiest way is to take the MIDI recording your Disklavier made
> > and run
> >> it through your computer software. In Pro Audio Tracks
> > (www.pgmusic.com )
> >> it is called "rendering" the MIDI file to digital audio file. The
> > audio will
> >> be whatever sounds came with the soundcard on your computer. This
> > audio
> >> file can then be burnt to a CD.
> >>
> >> I like to take the MIDI files and take them through a virtual piano
> > (VST
> >> software that is installed on the computer) to get a fantastic
> > audio
> >> sounding piano. These are not cheap but sound great. I use the
> > Steinberg
> >> Grand I and Grand II VST pianos.
> >>
> >> Another way is to take audio cables from the audio out on the DKV
> > (setting
> >> the DKV so the keyboard sounds are coming out the piano) into a
> > digital
> >> audio converter box (I use an Eideral UA25) to make the audio
> > file. Try
> >> taking the audio sound of the piano off the headphone jack for an
> > even
> >> better sound.
> >>
> >> You should also have some audio editing software. I am using an
> > older
> >> version of Cool Edit, but I believe the newer Nero7 software suite
> > also has
> >> an audio editor. I believe PG music's Pro Audio Tracks also has
> > both a MIDI
> >> and an audio editor. It is also a great price!
> >>
> >> Carol Beigel
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "robjohan"
> >> To: <disklavier@yahoogroups.com>
> >> Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2007 8:16 AM
> >> Subject: [disklavier] How to Record from a Mark IV
>; >>
> >>
> >> > Hopefully someone out there can give us some help on this
> > question ...
> >> > we have a 6 month old Mark IV running 2.0 software and we want to
> >> > record a piano piece that my daughter's accompanist recorded onto
> > our
> >> > piano's hard drive and burn the recording onto a CD so that we
> > can use
> >> > the CD in a regular CD player to accpmpany my daughter at a vocal
> >> > audition. Is the only way to do this is to use a tape recorder or
> > a PC
> >> > with a micropuone and place it in the room with the piano and then
> >> > record the piano playing the song we need?
> >> > Thanks
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >;
> >> > To Post a message to the group, send it to: disklavier@
> >> >
> >> > To Post a private message to Todd Muncy, the group's founder and
> >> > moderator, send it to:
> >> > disklavier-owner@
> >> >
> >> > To reach our group's web site go to:
> >> > http://Yahoogroups.com/group/disklavier
> >> >
> >> > THINKING OF LEAVING THE GROUP?
> >> > If you are thinking of unsubcribing because you are getting too
> > much mail,
> >> > go the the web site and change your email delivery option
> > instead. That
> >> > will fix the problem, while maintaining your access to the
> > group. If you
> >> > insist on leaving us completely send a blank email to:
> >> > disklavier-unsubscribe@
> >> >
> >> > Know someone who wants to join? Have them send a blank email to:
> >> > disklavier-subscribe@ or give them this link:
> >> > http://Yahoogroups.com/group/disklavier/join
> >> >
> >> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --
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> >> >
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >; To Post a message to the group, send it to: disklavier@...
> >
> > To Post a private message to Todd Muncy, the group's founder and
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> >
> > To reach our group's web site go to:
> > http://Yahoogroups.com/group/disklavier
> >
> > THINKING OF LEAVING THE GROUP?
> > If you are thinking of unsubcribing because you are getting too much mail,
> > go the the web site and change your email delivery option instead. That
> > will fix the problem, while maintaining your access to the group. If you
> > insist on leaving us completely send a blank email to:
> > disklavier-unsubscribe@...
> >
> > Know someone who wants to join? Have them send a blank email to:
> > disklavier-subscribe@... or give them this link:
> > http://Yahoogroups.com/group/disklavier/join
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > No virus found in this incoming message.
> > Checked by AVG Free Edition.
>; > Version: 7.5.487 / Virus Database: 269.13.22/1015 - Release Date:
> > 9/18/2007 11:53 AM
> >
> >
>