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Automatic accomp software?

2008-06-23 by Kevin Goroway

My uncle has a clavinova which has the cool ability to automatically accompany his playing in realtime by understanding the chord and melody.

So, this weekend I decided to finally build a computer to attach to my MkIV expressly to try to find software which would do the same thing.

The computer is working fine, and so is the MIDI functionality...now I just have to figure out what software will actually do this for me!  I played with band-in-a-box a bit...but it does not seem to allow for this sort of thing in real time...it wants you to first enter all of the chords.  Is there other software which can do this?  Am I asking too much?

If it matters, I built the computer running windows 98se.

Thanks in advance!
-Kevin

Re: [disklavier] Automatic accomp software?

2008-06-23 by Ray Harman

One Man Band will do the job for you. http://www.1manband.nl/omb.htm
Reads yamaha style files and plays in real time. Turns any keyboard with midi into an arranger keyboard.
Ray
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Subject: [disklavier] Automatic accomp software?

My uncle has a clavinova which has the cool ability to automatically accompany his playing in realtime by understanding the chord and melody.

So, this weekend I decided to finally build a computer to attach to my MkIV expressly to try to find software which would do the same thing.

The computer is working fine, and so is the MIDI functionality...now I just have to figure out what software will actually do this for me! I played with band-in-a-box a bit...but it does not seem to allow for this sort of thing in real time...it wants you to first enter all of the chords. Is there other software which can do this? Am I asking too much?

If it matters, I built the computer running windows 98se.

Thanks in advance!
-Kevin



Re: [disklavier] Automatic accomp software?

2008-06-23 by Kevin Goroway

Ray, thanks for the pointer.

Are you actually using one man band?  
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From: Ray Harman <rayharman@...>
To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 11:11:32 AM
Subject: Re: [disklavier] Automatic accomp software?


One Man Band will do the job for you.  
 http://www.1manband .nl/omb.htm
 
Reads yamaha style files and plays in real 
time.  Turns any keyboard with midi into an arranger keyboard.
 
Ray
 
----- Original Message ----- 
From: Kevin Goroway 
To: disklavier@yahoogro ups.com 
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 1:46 AM
Subject: [disklavier] Automatic accomp  software?

My  uncle has a clavinova which has the cool ability to automatically accompany  his playing in realtime by understanding the chord and melody.

So, this  weekend I decided to finally build a computer to attach to my MkIV expressly  to try to find software which would do the same thing.

The computer is  working fine, and so is the MIDI functionality. ..now I just have to  figure out what software will actually do this for me!  I played with  band-in-a-box a bit...but it does not seem to allow for this sort of thing in  real time...it wants you to first enter all of the chords.  Is there  other software which can do this?  Am I asking too much?

If it  matters, I built the computer running windows 98se.

Thanks in  advance!
-Kevin

Re: [disklavier] Automatic accomp software?

2008-06-23 by Ray Harman

Yes. I've been using it for a number of years. It's a very popular program. I have a Yamaha PSR 540 and this is connected by midi to my laptop with OMB. This extends the functionality of the PSR. My styles are all on my hard drive and I don't have to keep loading them in on the PSR's floppy. I get to choose either the PSR's accompaniment or the one provided by OMB. The output from OMB goes back to my PSR to use the Yamaha XG voices.
Regards
Ray
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Subject: Re: [disklavier] Automatic accomp software?

Ray, thanks for the pointer.

Are you actually using one man band?

----- Original Message ----
From: Ray Harman <rayharman@btinternet.com>
To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 11:11:32 AM
Subject: Re: [disklavier] Automatic accomp software?

One Man Band will do the job for you. http://www.1manband .nl/omb.htm
Reads yamaha style files and plays in real time. Turns any keyboard with midi into an arranger keyboard.
Ray
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 1:46 AM
Subject: [disklavier] Automatic accomp software?

My uncle has a clavinova which has the cool ability to automatically accompany his playing in realtime by understanding the chord and melody.

So, this weekend I decided to finally build a computer to attach to my MkIV expressly to try to find software which would do the same thing.

The computer is working fine, and so is the MIDI functionality. ..now I just have to figure out what software will actually do this for me! ; I played with band-in-a-box a bit...but it does not seem to allow for this sort of thing in real time...it wants you to first enter all of the chords. Is there other software which can do this? Am I asking too much?

If it matters, I built the computer running windows 98se.

Thanks in advance!
-Kevin




Re: [disklavier] Automatic accomp software?

2008-06-23 by Kevin Goroway

Okay...that helps.  I was wondering whether or not to let OMB use the disklavier's voices or to have it use it's own (or a software synth, but I don't think the hardware that I had lying around could support a software synth).  Do you know if it supports re-assigning channels?  I'm worried that it will use channel 1 for accompaniment, and that will end up pushing down the keys under my fingers...
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From: Ray Harman <rayharman@...>
To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 11:48:06 AM
Subject: Re: [disklavier] Automatic accomp software?


Yes.  I've been using it for a number of 
years.  It's a very popular program.  I have a Yamaha PSR 540 and this 
is connected by midi to my laptop with OMB.  This extends the functionality 
of the PSR.  My styles are all on my hard drive and I don't have to 
keep loading them in on the PSR's floppy.   I get to choose either the 
PSR's accompaniment or the one provided by OMB.  The output from OMB goes 
back to my PSR to use the Yamaha XG voices.
 
Regards
Ray
 
 
----- Original Message ----- 
From: Kevin Goroway 
To: disklavier@yahoogro ups.com 
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 4:32 PM
Subject: Re: [disklavier] Automatic  accomp software?

Ray, thanks for the pointer.

Are you actually using one man  band?  



-----  Original Message ----
From: Ray Harman <rayharman@btinterne t.com>
To: disklavier@yahoogro ups.com
Sent:  Monday, June 23, 2008 11:11:32 AM
Subject: Re: [disklavier] Automatic  accomp software?


One Man Band will do the job for you.    http://www.1manband .nl/omb.htm
 
Reads yamaha style files and plays in real  time.  Turns any keyboard with midi into an arranger  keyboard.
 
Ray
 
----- Original Message ----- 
From: Kevin Goroway 
To: disklavier@yahoogro ups.com 
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 1:46 AM
Subject: [disklavier] Automatic accomp software?

My  uncle has a clavinova which has the cool ability to automatically accompany  his playing in realtime by understanding the chord and melody.

So,  this weekend I decided to finally build a computer to attach to my MkIV  expressly to try to find software which would do the same thing.

The  computer is working fine, and so is the MIDI functionality. ..now I just  have to figure out what software will actually do this for me!  I  played with band-in-a-box a bit...but it does not seem to allow for this  sort of thing in real time...it wants you to first enter all of the  chords.  Is there other software which can do this?  Am I asking  too much?

If it matters, I built the computer running windows  98se.

Thanks in advance!
-Kevin

Re: [disklavier] Automatic accomp software?

2008-06-23 by Ray Harman

OMB doesn't have any voices. A software synth will give you latency problems. Preferably you need hardware sounds.
You can use a soundcard, keyboard or external module for your sounds. I recommend GM or XG compatible equipment.
I also have a Yamaha SW1000XG soundcard in my desktop which works very well with OMB.
Perhaps one of the external Audigy soundcards will do the job. You can download the demo of OMB and try it out. There is also some good getting started info on the website.
There's also a program called MAAS, but I didn't find it as good as OMB and I switched over about 6 years ago.
I believe you can re-assign channels with OMB. There is an edit page for that sort of thing but I've never had to do it.
Ray
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Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 5:57 PM
Subject: Re: [disklavier] Automatic accomp software?

Okay...that helps. I was wondering whether or not to let OMB use the disklavier's voices or to have it use it's own (or a software synth, but I don't think the hardware that I had lying around could support a software synth). Do you know if it supports re-assigning channels? I'm worried that it will use channel 1 for accompaniment, and that will end up pushing down the keys under my fingers...

----- Original Message ----
From: Ray Harman t.com>
To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 11:48:06 AM
Subject: Re: [disklavier] Automatic accomp software?

Yes. I've been using it for a number of years. It's a very popular program. I have a Yamaha PSR 540 and this is connected by midi to my laptop with OMB. This extends the functionality of the PSR. My styles are all on my hard drive and I don't have to keep loading them in on the PSR's floppy. ; I get to choose either the PSR's accompaniment or the one provided by OMB. The output from OMB goes back to my PSR to use the Yamaha XG voices.
Regards
Ray
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 4:32 PM
Subject: Re: [disklavier] Automatic accomp software?

Ray, thanks for the pointer.

Are you actually using one man band?

----- Original Message ----
From: Ray Harman <rayharman@btinterne t.com>
To: disklavier@yahoogro ups.com
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 11:11:32 AM
Subject: Re: [disklavier] Automatic accomp software?

One Man Band will do the job for you. http://www.1manband .nl/omb.htm
Reads yamaha style files and plays in real time. Turns any keyboard with midi into an arranger keyboard.
Ray
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 1:46 AM
Subject: [disklavier] Automatic accomp software?

My uncle has a clavinova which has the cool ability to automatically accompany his playing in realtime by understanding the chord and melody.

So, this weekend I decided to finally build a computer to attach to my MkIV expressly to try to find software which would do the same thing.

The computer is working fine, and so is the MIDI functionality. ..now I just have to figure out what software will actually do this for me! I played with band-in-a-box a bit...but it does not seem to allow for this sort of thing in real time...it wants you to first enter all of the chords. Is there other software which can do this? Am I asking too much?

If it matters, I built the computer running windows 98se.

Thanks in advance!
-Kevin





Re: [disklavier] Automatic accomp software?

2008-06-23 by Kevin Goroway

Ray,

Thanks again.  I'll try it tonight.  I was talking about using my soundcard when I mentioned OMB's sounds...but, in retrospect, that makes no sense at all...of course it's all MIDI.  Thanks for the pointer to their yahoo group as well!

-Kevin
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----- Original Message ----
From: Ray Harman <rayharman@...>
To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 1:40:34 PM
Subject: Re: [disklavier] Automatic accomp software?


OMB doesn't have any voices.  A software synth 
will give you latency problems.  Preferably you need hardware 
sounds.
 
You can use a soundcard, keyboard or external 
module for your sounds.  I recommend GM or XG compatible 
equipment.
 
I also have a Yamaha SW1000XG soundcard in my 
desktop which works very well with OMB.
 
Perhaps one of the external Audigy soundcards will 
do the job.  You can download the demo of OMB and try it out.  There 
is also some good getting started info on the website.
 
There's also a program called MAAS, but I didn't 
find it as good as OMB and I switched over about 6 years ago.
 
I believe you can re-assign channels with 
OMB.  There is an edit page for that sort of thing but I've never had to do 
it.  
 
Ray
 
 
 
----- Original Message ----- 
From: Kevin Goroway 
To: disklavier@yahoogro ups.com 
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 5:57 PM
Subject: Re: [disklavier] Automatic  accomp software?

Okay...that helps.  I was wondering whether or not to let OMB use  the disklavier's voices or to have it use it's own (or a software synth, but I  don't think the hardware that I had lying around could support a software  synth).  Do you know if it supports re-assigning channels?  I'm  worried that it will use channel 1 for accompaniment, and that will end up  pushing down the keys under my fingers...



-----  Original Message ----
From: Ray Harman  <rayharman@btinterne t.com>
To:  disklavier@yahoogro ups.com
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 11:48:06  AM
Subject: Re: [disklavier] Automatic accomp software?


Yes.  I've been using it for a number of  years.  It's a very popular program.  I have a Yamaha PSR 540 and  this is connected by midi to my laptop with OMB.  This extends the  functionality of the PSR.  My styles are all on my hard drive and I  don't have to keep loading them in on the PSR's floppy.   I get to  choose either the PSR's accompaniment or the one provided by OMB.  The  output from OMB goes back to my PSR to use the Yamaha XG voices.
 
Regards
Ray
 
 
-----  Original Message ----- 
From: Kevin Goroway 
To: disklavier@yahoogro ups.com 
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 4:32 PM
Subject: Re: [disklavier] Automatic accomp software?

Ray, thanks for the pointer.

Are you actually using one man  band?  



-----  Original Message ----
From: Ray Harman <rayharman@btinterne  t.com>
To: disklavier@yahoogro  ups.com
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 11:11:32 AM
Subject: Re:  [disklavier] Automatic accomp software?


One Man Band will do the job for you.    http://www.1manband .nl/omb.htm
 
Reads yamaha style files and plays in real  time.  Turns any keyboard with midi into an arranger  keyboard.
 
Ray
 
----- Original Message ----- 
From: Kevin Goroway 
To: disklavier@yahoogro  ups.com 
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 1:46 AM
Subject: [disklavier] Automatic accomp software?

My  uncle has a clavinova which has the cool ability to automatically  accompany his playing in realtime by understanding the chord and  melody.

So, this weekend I decided to finally build a computer to  attach to my MkIV expressly to try to find software which would do the  same thing.

The computer is working fine, and so is the MIDI  functionality. ..now I just have to figure out what software will actually  do this for me!  I played with band-in-a-box a bit...but it does not  seem to allow for this sort of thing in real time...it wants you to first  enter all of the chords.  Is there other software which can do  this?  Am I asking too much?

If it matters, I built the  computer running windows 98se.

Thanks in  advance!
-Kevin

Re: [disklavier] Automatic accomp software?

2008-06-24 by pianobench

Good afternoon, everyone.

Kevin, if you set the Disklavier's Piano Receive Channel to ##, all of the channel data will go to the tone generator, and the keys will not play underneath your fingers.

Regards,
PianoBench


www.georgelitterst.com
www.timewarptech.com


On Jun 23, 2008, at 12:57 PM, Kevin Goroway wrote:


Okay...that helps. I was wondering whether or not to let OMB use the disklavier's voices or to have it use it's own (or a software synth, but I don't think the hardware that I had lying around could support a software synth). Do you know if it supports re-assigning channels? I'm worried that it will use channel 1 for accompaniment, and that will end up pushing down the keys under my fingers...

----- Original Message ----
Show quoted textHide quoted text
From: Ray Harman
To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 11:48:06 AM
Subject: Re: [disklavier] Automatic accomp software?


Yes. I've been using it for a number of years. It's a very popular program. I have a Yamaha PSR 540 and this is connected by midi to my laptop with OMB. This extends the functionality of the PSR. My styles are all on my hard drive and I don't have to keep loading them in on the PSR's floppy. I get to choose either the PSR's accompaniment or the one provided by OMB. The output from OMB goes back to my PSR to use the Yamaha XG voices.
Regards
Ray
----- Original Message -----
From: Kevin Goroway
To: disklavier@yahoogro ups.com
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 4:32 PM
Subject: Re: [disklavier] Automatic accomp software?


Ray, thanks for the pointer.

Are you actually using one man band?

----- Original Message ----
From: Ray Harman
To: disklavier@yahoogro ups.com
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 11:11:32 AM
Subject: Re: [disklavier] Automatic accomp software?


One Man Band will do the job for you. http://www.1manband .nl/omb.htm
Reads yamaha style files and plays in real time. Turns any keyboard with midi into an arranger keyboard.
Ray
----- Original Message -----
From: Kevin Goroway
To: disklavier@yahoogro ups.com
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 1:46 AM
Subject: [disklavier] Automatic accomp software?


My uncle has a clavinova which has the cool ability to automatically accompany his playing in realtime by understanding the chord and melody.

So, this weekend I decided to finally build a computer to attach to my MkIV expressly to try to find software which would do the same thing.

The computer is working fine, and so is the MIDI functionality. ..now I just have to figure out what software will actually do this for me! I played with band-in-a-box a bit...but it does not seem to allow for this sort of thing in real time...it wants you to first enter all of the chords. Is there other software which can do this? Am I asking too much?

If it matters, I built the computer running windows 98se.

Thanks in advance!
-Kevin

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