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We just received delivery of a Mark III disklavier (floppy disk only).  
We turned the volume down as far as we could but it is still too loud 
for us.  From reading various posts, I understand the dkvutilities and 
perhaps some other software, allows one to further reduce the volume of 
midi pieces.  Does anyone know if these will work under Vista?  If not, 
can someone recommend a program that will do the job which works under 
Vista.  I would not object to buying a commercial product for this 
purpose, such as Cakewalk, if I could figure out which version of 
Cakewalk to buy!

Thanks in advance...

Greetings lowdebt4me,

all of my utilities work under vista. i have also tested some of them
in Windows 7 Beta. i have a program called MidiMod2 that adjust
velocity in MIDI files on a batch or individual file basis. you can
find it on the following page of my web site as well as many other
programs. i have hundreds of others and can also make custom programs,
usually with little effort.

i don't have a vista machine any more. it became the Windows 7 Beta
machine. Vista absolutely sucks for the work i do and i was thrilled
to dump it. Windows 7 had been fixed for most of the things that made
Vista useless for my needs. so, i can no longer test programs in vista
without installing it on another computer and that would mean having a
worthless piece of junk taking up space. i think people will be
pleased when Windows 7 comes out. Microsoft really got scared and did
a little work on it.

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Wednesday, February 11, 2009, 10:12:15 AM, you wrote:
> We just received delivery of a Mark III disklavier (floppy disk only).
> We turned the volume down as far as we could but it is still too loud 
> for us. From reading various posts, I understand the dkvutilities and 
> perhaps some other software, allows one to further reduce the volume of
> midi pieces. Does anyone know if these will work under Vista? If not, 
> can someone recommend a program that will do the job which works under
> Vista. I would not object to buying a commercial product for this 
> purpose, such as Cakewalk, if I could figure out which version of 
> Cakewalk to buy!

> Thanks in advance...

> 

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Thanks, Spencer_Lists,

I will look into it.  In my first attempt, I've downloaded the 
classical music zip file from the user group.  I see these are .fil 
files, which I understand are Yamaha ESEQ files.  I played a few and 
they are quite loud, so I will try to reduce their volume.  Will 
minimod2 will work with .fil files?

I see the Dkvutilities contain a program named Veloset which will 
reduce the volume of both ESEQ and MIDI files.  I'll try this first 
and see if it works.  Otherwise, I assume I'll have to convert these 
ESEQ files to MIDI files before minimod2 can work with them?



--- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, Spencer_Lists <lists@...> wrote:
>
> Greetings lowdebt4me,
> 
> all of my utilities work under vista. i have also tested some of 
them
> in Windows 7 Beta. i have a program called MidiMod2 that adjust
> velocity in MIDI files on a batch or individual file basis. you can
> find it on the following page of my web site as well as many other
> programs. i have hundreds of others and can also make custom 
programs,
> usually with little effort.
> 
> i don't have a vista machine any more. it became the Windows 7 Beta
> machine. Vista absolutely sucks for the work i do and i was thrilled
> to dump it. Windows 7 had been fixed for most of the things that 
made
> Vista useless for my needs. so, i can no longer test programs in 
vista
> without installing it on another computer and that would mean 
having a
> worthless piece of junk taking up space. i think people will be
> pleased when Windows 7 comes out. Microsoft really got scared and 
did

> a little work on it.
> 
> http://www.spencerserolls.com/Files4Download.html
> 
> -- 
> Best regards,
> Spencer_Lists Chase        mailto:lists@...
> 67550 Bell Springs Rd.
> Garberville,  CA 95542    Postal service only.
> Laytonville, CA 95454    UPS only.
> Lists@spencerserolls(dot)com
> http://www(dot)spencerserolls.com 
> replace (dot) with a .
> (707) 984-8356
>

Greetings lowdebt4me,

midimod2 does not work with eseq files. you would have to convert. you
might need to have a pre vista machine to run dos. someone else can
probably advise on his.

Thursday, February 12, 2009, 9:39:33 AM, you wrote:
> Thanks, Spencer_Lists,

> I will look into it. In my first attempt, I've downloaded the 
> classical music zip file from the user group. I see these are .fil 
> files, which I understand are Yamaha ESEQ files. I played a few and 
> they are quite loud, so I will try to reduce their volume. Will 
> minimod2 will work with .fil files?

> I see the Dkvutilities contain a program named Veloset which will 
> reduce the volume of both ESEQ and MIDI files. I'll try this first 
> and see if it works. Otherwise, I assume I'll have to convert these 
> ESEQ files to MIDI files before minimod2 can work with them?

> --- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, Spencer_Lists <lists@...> wrote:
>>
>> Greetings lowdebt4me,
>> 
>> all of my utilities work under vista. i have also tested some of 
> them
>> in Windows 7 Beta. i have a program called MidiMod2 that adjust
>> velocity in MIDI files on a batch or individual file basis. you can
>> find it on the following page of my web site as well as many other
>> programs. i have hundreds of others and can also make custom 
> programs,
>> usually with little effort.
>> 
>> i don't have a vista machine any more. it became the Windows 7 Beta
>> machine. Vista absolutely sucks for the work i do and i was thrilled
>> to dump it. Windows 7 had been fixed for most of the things that 
> made
>> Vista useless for my needs. so, i can no longer test programs in 
> vista
>> without installing it on another computer and that would mean 
> having a
>> worthless piece of junk taking up space. i think people will be
>> pleased when Windows 7 comes out. Microsoft really got scared and 
> did
>> a little work on it.
>> 
>> http://www.spencerserolls.com/Files4Download.html
>> 
>> -- 
>> Best regards,
>> Spencer_Lists Chase mailto:lists@...
>> 67550 Bell Springs Rd.
>> Garberville, CA 95542 Postal service only.
>> Laytonville, CA 95454 UPS only.
>> Lists@spencerserolls(dot)com
>> http://www(dot)spencerserolls.com 
>> replace (dot) with a .
>> (707) 984-8356
>>

> 

-- 
Best regards,
Spencer_Lists Chase        mailto:lists@...
67550 Bell Springs Rd.
Garberville,  CA 95542    Postal service only.
Laytonville, CA 95454    UPS only.
Lists@spencerserolls(dot)com
http://www(dot)spencerserolls.com 
replace (dot) with a .
(707) 984-8356

Thanks again, Spencer_rolls.

I downloaded the DKVutilities and was able to open Veloset in Vista, 
which apparantly works with ESEQ files.  I say apparantly because, 
while the program did run, and I was able to adjust the left (volume?) 
and right (velocity?) sliders, my modified .fil files still seemed 
pretty loud.

After a number of attempts at gradually reducing the volume of the .fil 
files I obtained from the classical zip file in the files section of 
this user group, I finally set the volume and velocity levels to their 
minimum values(ie, 1).  I'll have to do an A/B comparison of an 
original, unmodified .fil file to my minimum value version of the file 
to see if I can tell a difference.  I think there is a difference, it 
just isn't as great a difference as I had hoped for.

I wonder if another program, such as minimmod2 or gnmidi, would allow 
me to reduce their volumes even further, or are these minimum settings 
the same minimums that would be established using other programs 
(assuming I converted the .fil files to MIDI files).



--- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, Spencer_Lists <lists@...> wrote:

>
> Greetings lowdebt4me,
> 
> midimod2 does not work with eseq files. you would have to convert. you
> might need to have a pre vista machine to run dos. someone else can
> probably advise on his.
> 
> Best regards,
> Spencer_Lists Chase        mailto:lists@...
> 67550 Bell Springs Rd.
> Garberville,  CA 95542    Postal service only.
> Laytonville, CA 95454    UPS only.
> Lists@spencerserolls(dot)com
> http://www(dot)spencerserolls.com 
> replace (dot) with a .
> (707) 984-8356
>

Greetings lowdebt4me,

midimod2 will allow you to reduce the velocity of notes on to 1 which
is very soft. velocity 1 is the softest there is in MIDI. the DKV will
probably play all notes at a minimum level. i think this value is
adjustable but if you make it too low notes may fail to play.

Friday, February 13, 2009, 5:58:51 AM, you wrote:
> Thanks again, Spencer_rolls.

> I downloaded the DKVutilities and was able to open Veloset in Vista, 
> which apparantly works with ESEQ files. I say apparantly because, 
> while the program did run, and I was able to adjust the left (volume?)
> and right (velocity?) sliders, my modified .fil files still seemed 
> pretty loud.

> After a number of attempts at gradually reducing the volume of the .fil
> files I obtained from the classical zip file in the files section of 
> this user group, I finally set the volume and velocity levels to their
> minimum values(ie, 1). I'll have to do an A/B comparison of an 
> original, unmodified .fil file to my minimum value version of the file
> to see if I can tell a difference. I think there is a difference, it 
> just isn't as great a difference as I had hoped for.

> I wonder if another program, such as minimmod2 or gnmidi, would allow 
> me to reduce their volumes even further, or are these minimum settings
> the same minimums that would be established using other programs 
> (assuming I converted the .fil files to MIDI files).

> --- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, Spencer_Lists <lists@...> wrote:
>>
>> Greetings lowdebt4me,
>> 
>> midimod2 does not work with eseq files. you would have to convert. you
>> might need to have a pre vista machine to run dos. someone else can
>> probably advise on his.
>> 
>> Best regards,
>> Spencer_Lists Chase mailto:lists@...
>> 67550 Bell Springs Rd.
>> Garberville, CA 95542 Postal service only.
>> Laytonville, CA 95454 UPS only.
>> Lists@spencerserolls(dot)com
>> http://www(dot)spencerserolls.com 
>> replace (dot) with a .
>> (707) 984-8356
>>

> 

-- 
Best regards,
Spencer_Lists Chase        mailto:lists@...
67550 Bell Springs Rd.
Garberville,  CA 95542    Postal service only.
Laytonville, CA 95454    UPS only.
Lists@spencerserolls(dot)com
http://www(dot)spencerserolls.com 
replace (dot) with a .
(707) 984-8356