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floppy types, getting confused !

floppy types, getting confused !

2011-04-16 by martin

Hello, 
We have a disklavier with an aftermarket yamaha system fitted, it has a yamaha control module RF PPC3    i got some floppys to download the files on here from  i wonder if i got the wrong type, these are DSDD 2DD 720KB    when i try to download  it says   format the disk,  when i do this  it says   cant format this disk type,  i tried on windows 7 and xp,  i then noticed an original pianosoft disk i have says FD 2DD   is this a different sort,  i also tried a hd disk   this did let me format it   and i downloaded the song files  but it wont play in the machine, Getting a bit lost with file types ! Thanks in advance for help.

Re: [disklavier] floppy types, getting confused !

2011-04-18 by athomik

The PPC3 is a grey import from Japan. It was originally produced for the Japanese market only. I can't find any details on this particular model, but Disklaviers around this age (late 1980s-1990s) used double sided, double density disks (720 Kb). Both descriptions you gave refer to this type of disk.
From your description, i would suspect that you have a faulty floppy disk drive. You might get away with using a FDD cleaning kit, but it's more likely that you need a new drive.

athomik

On Apr 16 2011, martin wrote:

>Hello,
>We have a disklavier with an aftermarket yamaha system fitted, it has a yamaha control module RF PPC3 i got some floppys to download the files on here from i wonder if i got the wrong type, these are DSDD 2DD 720KB when i try to download it says format the disk, when i do this it says cant format this disk type, i tried on windows 7 and xp, i then noticed an original pianosoft disk i have says FD 2DD is this a different sort, i also tried a hd disk this did let me format it and i downloaded the song files but it wont play in the machine, Getting a bit lost with file types ! Thanks in advance for help.
>
>

Re: floppy types, getting confused !

2011-11-03 by circlenrg

Seems to me that your issue is that XP does not format 2DD 720kb disks.  (I don't know about Win7.)  I had the same issue, but was able to find a program that allows XP to format the disks.  Let me know if you're still having problems, and if so I'll try to figure out how to upload the program to this group.

~Aaron

RE: [disklavier] Re: floppy types, getting confused !

2011-11-04 by RayParks

Windows 95 (old) WILL format either 720 or 1.44. I am not sure about Windows
98.   Unfortunately Microsoft figures no one has a need for 720 anymore.  I
have found that there is several devices that use the 720s.

Ray Parks
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Seems to me that your issue is that XP does not format 2DD 720kb disks. (I
don't know about Win7.) I had the same issue, but was able to find a program
that allows XP to format the disks. Let me know if you're still having
problems, and if so I'll try to figure out how to upload the program to this
group.

~Aaron

Re: [disklavier] Re: floppy types, getting confused !

2011-11-04 by George Husson

Ray,

I don't know if this works in Win 7, but I was able to use the formula below to get disks to format as 720 at least up until XP in this way:

from a command prompt, type

format a: /T:80 /N:9

and let it rip

I was able to use these in my original Disklavier controller before I upgraded to the DKC-850. I have attached a cheapie floppy drive to the 850 but I have not used to see if I could write to it; I can read floppies from it (and these would be the 720s).

--George

 

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Windows 95(old) WILL format either 720 or 1.44. I am not sure about Windows 98.   Unfortunately Microsoft figures no one has a need for 720 anymore.  I have found that there is several devices that use the 720s.
Ray Parks
 
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Seems to me that your issue is that XP does not format 2DD 720kb disks. (I don't know about Win7.) I had the same issue, but was able to find a program that allows XP to format the disks. Let me know if you're still having problems, and if so I'll try to figure out how to upload the program to this group.

~Aaron

RE: [disklavier] Re: floppy types, getting confused !

2011-11-04 by Carol Beigel

There is a way to do the this in the old version of The Handbook of Midi player tools at www.carolrpt.com

Carol

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Windows 95 (old) WILL format either 720 or 1.44. I am not sure about Windows 98. Unfortunately Microsoft figures no one has a need for 720 anymore. I have found that there is several devices that use the 720s.

Ray Parks

From: disklavier@yahoogroups.com [mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of circlenrg
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2011 12:06 PM
To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [disklavier] Re: floppy types, getting confused !


Seems to me that your issue is that XP does not format 2DD 720kb disks. (I don't know about Win7.) I had the same issue, but was able to find a program that allows XP to format the disks. Let me know if you're still having problems, and if so I'll try to figure out how to upload the program to this group.

~Aaron

Re: floppy types, getting confused !

2011-11-04 by circlenrg

I went ahead and uploaded the program I mentioned.  It's in the Files area of this group.  File name: FMT.zip.  It allows formatting of disks of many different sizes, including 720k.  I've been successful in formating "taped-over" 1.44k disks as 720k disks using Windows XP.  For it to be successful, I've first formatted the disk in my MX85, then use this program to format 720k.  Then I've moved .fil files onto the disk, and used dkvutils to create and populate the pianodir.fil file.  I have also successfully used the CONVERT funtion on the MX85 without using dkvutils.

~Aaron

Move to quarantaine

This moves the raw source file on disk only. The archive index is not changed automatically, so you still need to run a manual refresh afterward.