Disklavier

From: disklavier@yahoogroups.com [mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of tintinlad320
Sent: Monday, September 03, 2012 2:14 PM
To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [disklavier] Re: Adding DKC850 to MPX1



I found this in the operating manual:

You can add a Disklavier piano performance you recorded or on
commercially available SmartPianoSoft software to the playback of songs
on your favorite CDs.

So its ok i guess; I wont have the diskettes reader unit so probably I'll have to copy the floppy to the pc and from there on on a usb stick I'll choose the
appropriate file...

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>
> There is a problem with that.  Yamaha copy protection scheme will NOT allow you to:
> 
> 	copy a PianoSoft disk to a USB stick
> 	copy a PianoSoft disk to the FromToPC folder
> 	copy PianoSoft disks to CDs
> 
> The only way I have found to get your pianosoft floppies into the Memory is to use a USB floppy disk drive.
> 
> I figure if you can afford the $1500 for the DKC-850 you might save yourself a lot of time and trouble and just buy their USB Floppy Disk drive.
> 
> You can, however, convert your ESEQ disks to standard file formats using Giebler, DKVutils or Root a Ripper, then use the converted disks to place files on USB sticks, folders on a computer, etc.
> 
> Good luck.
> 
> 
> Carol Beigel
> 
> On Sep 3, 2012, at 3:13 AM, tintinlad320 wrote:
> 
> > I found this in the operating manual:
> > 
> > You can add a Disklavier piano performance you recorded or on 
> > commercially available SmartPianoSoft software to the playback of songs 
> > on your favorite CDs. 
> > 
> > So its ok i guess; I wont have the diskettes reader unit so probably I'll have to copy the floppy to the pc and from there on on a usb stick I'll choose the 
> > appropriate file...
> > 
> >
>

On Sep 3, 2012, at 9:50 AM, "gmtmt" <gmtmt@...> wrote:

> I wen to Best Buy and bought a floppy disc drive for $70.00 and attached it the the KDC850 and it works great. I also use the USB stick as well.
> 
> --- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, Carol Beigel <carol@...> wrote:
> >
> > There is a problem with that. Yamaha copy protection scheme will NOT allow you to:
> > 
> > copy a PianoSoft disk to a USB stick
> > copy a PianoSoft disk to the FromToPC folder
> > copy PianoSoft disks to CDs
> > 
> > The only way I have found to get your pianosoft floppies into the Memory is to use a USB floppy disk drive.
> > 
> > I figure if you can afford the $1500 for the DKC-850 you might save yourself a lot of time and trouble and just buy their USB Floppy Disk drive.
> > 
> > You can, however, convert your ESEQ disks to standard file formats using Giebler, DKVutils or Root a Ripper, then use the converted disks to place files on USB sticks, folders on a computer, etc.
> > 
> > Good luck.
> > 
> > 
> > Carol Beigel
> > 
> > On Sep 3, 2012, at 3:13 AM, tintinlad320 wrote:
> > 
> > > I found this in the operating manual:
> > > 
> > > You can add a Disklavier piano performance you recorded or on 
> > > commercially available SmartPianoSoft software to the playback of songs 
> > > on your favorite CDs. 
> > > 
> > > So its ok i guess; I wont have the diskettes reader unit so probably I'll have to copy the floppy to the pc and from there on on a usb stick I'll choose the 
> > > appropriate file...
> > > 
> > >
> >
> 
>

>
> If you are going to use a non-Yamaha USB FDD, I recommend the following:
> 
> Iomega #32633
> LaCie #706018
> 
> These do work with  protected floppies.
> 
> Bill
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
> 
> On Sep 3, 2012, at 9:50 AM, "gmtmt" <gmtmt@...> wrote:
> 
> > I wen to Best Buy and bought a floppy disc drive for $70.00 and attached it the the KDC850 and it works great. I also use the USB stick as well.
> > 
> > --- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, Carol Beigel <carol@> wrote:
> > >
> > > There is a problem with that. Yamaha copy protection scheme will NOT allow you to:
> > > 
> > > copy a PianoSoft disk to a USB stick
> > > copy a PianoSoft disk to the FromToPC folder
> > > copy PianoSoft disks to CDs
> > > 
> > > The only way I have found to get your pianosoft floppies into the Memory is to use a USB floppy disk drive.
> > > 
> > > I figure if you can afford the $1500 for the DKC-850 you might save yourself a lot of time and trouble and just buy their USB Floppy Disk drive.
> > > 
> > > You can, however, convert your ESEQ disks to standard file formats using Giebler, DKVutils or Root a Ripper, then use the converted disks to place files on USB sticks, folders on a computer, etc.
> > > 
> > > Good luck.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Carol Beigel
> > > 
> > > On Sep 3, 2012, at 3:13 AM, tintinlad320 wrote:
> > > 
> > > > I found this in the operating manual:
> > > > 
> > > > You can add a Disklavier piano performance you recorded or on 
> > > > commercially available SmartPianoSoft software to the playback of songs 
> > > > on your favorite CDs. 
> > > > 
> > > > So its ok i guess; I wont have the diskettes reader unit so probably I'll have to copy the floppy to the pc and from there on on a usb stick I'll choose the 
> > > > appropriate file...
> > > > 
> > > >
> > >
> > 
> >
>

On Sep 3, 2012, at 10:20 PM, "tintinlad320" <rightnightboy@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks for everyone who answered!
> 
> Bill, when you say that those (iomega & lacie) particular floppy drive work on protected floppies do you mean when ther are connected to the dkc850 or connected to the computer ?
> 
> 
> 
> --- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, Bill Brandom <bill.brandom03@...> wrote:
>> 
>> If you are going to use a non-Yamaha USB FDD, I recommend the following:
>> 
>> Iomega #32633
>> LaCie #706018
>> 
>> These do work with  protected floppies.
>> 
>> Bill
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Sep 3, 2012, at 9:50 AM, "gmtmt" <gmtmt@...> wrote:
>> 
>>> I wen to Best Buy and bought a floppy disc drive for $70.00 and attached it the the KDC850 and it works great. I also use the USB stick as well.
>>> 
>>> --- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, Carol Beigel <carol@> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> There is a problem with that. Yamaha copy protection scheme will NOT allow you to:
>>>> 
>>>> copy a PianoSoft disk to a USB stick
>>>> copy a PianoSoft disk to the FromToPC folder
>>>> copy PianoSoft disks to CDs
>>>> 
>>>> The only way I have found to get your pianosoft floppies into the Memory is to use a USB floppy disk drive.
>>>> 
>>>> I figure if you can afford the $1500 for the DKC-850 you might save yourself a lot of time and trouble and just buy their USB Floppy Disk drive.
>>>> 
>>>> You can, however, convert your ESEQ disks to standard file formats using Giebler, DKVutils or Root a Ripper, then use the converted disks to place files on USB sticks, folders on a computer, etc.
>>>> 
>>>> Good luck.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Carol Beigel
>>>> 
>>>> On Sep 3, 2012, at 3:13 AM, tintinlad320 wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> I found this in the operating manual:
>>>>> 
>>>>> You can add a Disklavier piano performance you recorded or on 
>>>>> commercially available SmartPianoSoft software to the playback of songs 
>>>>> on your favorite CDs. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> So its ok i guess; I wont have the diskettes reader unit so probably I'll have to copy the floppy to the pc and from there on on a usb stick I'll choose the 
>>>>> appropriate file...
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
> 
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>
> Those drives will work when connected to an E3 or DKC-850.
> 
> Bill
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Sep 3, 2012, at 10:20 PM, "tintinlad320" <rightnightboy@...> wrote:
> 
> > Thanks for everyone who answered!
> > 
> > Bill, when you say that those (iomega & lacie) particular floppy drive work on protected floppies do you mean when ther are connected to the dkc850 or connected to the computer ?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, Bill Brandom <bill.brandom03@> wrote:
> >> 
> >> If you are going to use a non-Yamaha USB FDD, I recommend the following:
> >> 
> >> Iomega #32633
> >> LaCie #706018
> >> 
> >> These do work with  protected floppies.
> >> 
> >> Bill
> >> 
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> On Sep 3, 2012, at 9:50 AM, "gmtmt" <gmtmt@> wrote:
> >> 
> >>> I wen to Best Buy and bought a floppy disc drive for $70.00 and attached it the the KDC850 and it works great. I also use the USB stick as well.
> >>> 
> >>> --- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, Carol Beigel <carol@> wrote:
> >>>> 
> >>>> There is a problem with that. Yamaha copy protection scheme will NOT allow you to:
> >>>> 
> >>>> copy a PianoSoft disk to a USB stick
> >>>> copy a PianoSoft disk to the FromToPC folder
> >>>> copy PianoSoft disks to CDs
> >>>> 
> >>>> The only way I have found to get your pianosoft floppies into the Memory is to use a USB floppy disk drive.
> >>>> 
> >>>> I figure if you can afford the $1500 for the DKC-850 you might save yourself a lot of time and trouble and just buy their USB Floppy Disk drive.
> >>>> 
> >>>> You can, however, convert your ESEQ disks to standard file formats using Giebler, DKVutils or Root a Ripper, then use the converted disks to place files on USB sticks, folders on a computer, etc.
> >>>> 
> >>>> Good luck.
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> Carol Beigel
> >>>> 
> >>>> On Sep 3, 2012, at 3:13 AM, tintinlad320 wrote:
> >>>> 
> >>>>> I found this in the operating manual:
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> You can add a Disklavier piano performance you recorded or on 
> >>>>> commercially available SmartPianoSoft software to the playback of songs 
> >>>>> on your favorite CDs. 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> So its ok i guess; I wont have the diskettes reader unit so probably I'll have to copy the floppy to the pc and from there on on a usb stick I'll choose the 
> >>>>> appropriate file...
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >> 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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>

>
> If you are going to use a non-Yamaha USB FDD, I recommend the following:
> 
> Iomega #32633
> LaCie #706018
> 
> These do work with  protected floppies.
> 
> Bill
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
> 
> On Sep 3, 2012, at 9:50 AM, "gmtmt" <gmtmt@...> wrote:
> 
> > I wen to Best Buy and bought a floppy disc drive for $70.00 and attached it the the KDC850 and it works great. I also use the USB stick as well.
> > 
> > --- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, Carol Beigel <carol@> wrote:
> > >
> > > There is a problem with that. Yamaha copy protection scheme will NOT allow you to:
> > > 
> > > copy a PianoSoft disk to a USB stick
> > > copy a PianoSoft disk to the FromToPC folder
> > > copy PianoSoft disks to CDs
> > > 
> > > The only way I have found to get your pianosoft floppies into the Memory is to use a USB floppy disk drive.
> > > 
> > > I figure if you can afford the $1500 for the DKC-850 you might save yourself a lot of time and trouble and just buy their USB Floppy Disk drive.
> > > 
> > > You can, however, convert your ESEQ disks to standard file formats using Giebler, DKVutils or Root a Ripper, then use the converted disks to place files on USB sticks, folders on a computer, etc.
> > > 
> > > Good luck.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Carol Beigel
> > > 
> > > On Sep 3, 2012, at 3:13 AM, tintinlad320 wrote:
> > > 
> > > > I found this in the operating manual:
> > > > 
> > > > You can add a Disklavier piano performance you recorded or on 
> > > > commercially available SmartPianoSoft software to the playback of songs 
> > > > on your favorite CDs. 
> > > > 
> > > > So its ok i guess; I wont have the diskettes reader unit so probably I'll have to copy the floppy to the pc and from there on on a usb stick I'll choose the 
> > > > appropriate file...
> > > > 
> > > >
> > >
> > 
> >
>

On 12 Mar 2013, at 16:29, Bill Brandom <bill.brandom03@...> wrote:

> Because Yamaha has protected its PianoSoft files on floppy disks, most drives don't work.
> 
> 
> The Yamaha drive that works is the UD-FD01. There are two other drives that I know that work with the protected data:
> 
> Iomega #32633
> LaCie #706018
> 
> If you try a different drive and it works, please let the group know the make and model.
> 
> Bill Brandom
> 
> On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 5:23 AM, discodonal <discodonal@...> wrote:
>>  
>> Why can't I use any USB floppy disk drive? I want to get all the songs from my mark iii box to my dkc 850.
>> 
>> Regards
>> 
>> Donal
>> 
>> --- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, Bill Brandom <bill.brandom03@...> wrote:
>> >
>> > If you are going to use a non-Yamaha USB FDD, I recommend the following:
>> > 
>> > Iomega #32633
>> > LaCie #706018
>> > 
>> > These do work with protected floppies.
>> > 
>> > Bill
>> > 
>> > Sent from my iPhone
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > On Sep 3, 2012, at 9:50 AM, "gmtmt" <gmtmt@...> wrote:
>> > 
>> > > I wen to Best Buy and bought a floppy disc drive for $70.00 and attached it the the KDC850 and it works great. I also use the USB stick as well.
>> > > 
>> > > --- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, Carol Beigel <carol@> wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > There is a problem with that. Yamaha copy protection scheme will NOT allow you to:
>> > > > 
>> > > > copy a PianoSoft disk to a USB stick
>> > > > copy a PianoSoft disk to the FromToPC folder
>> > > > copy PianoSoft disks to CDs
>> > > > 
>> > > > The only way I have found to get your pianosoft floppies into the Memory is to use a USB floppy disk drive.
>> > > > 
>> > > > I figure if you can afford the $1500 for the DKC-850 you might save yourself a lot of time and trouble and just buy their USB Floppy Disk drive.
>> > > > 
>> > > > You can, however, convert your ESEQ disks to standard file formats using Giebler, DKVutils or Root a Ripper, then use the converted disks to place files on USB sticks, folders on a computer, etc.
>> > > > 
>> > > > Good luck.
>> > > > 
>> > > > 
>> > > > Carol Beigel
>> > > > 
>> > > > On Sep 3, 2012, at 3:13 AM, tintinlad320 wrote:
>> > > > 
>> > > > > I found this in the operating manual:
>> > > > > 
>> > > > > You can add a Disklavier piano performance you recorded or on 
>> > > > > commercially available SmartPianoSoft software to the playback of songs 
>> > > > > on your favorite CDs. 
>> > > > > 
>> > > > > So its ok i guess; I wont have the diskettes reader unit so probably I'll have to copy the floppy to the pc and from there on on a usb stick I'll choose the 
>> > > > > appropriate file...
>> > > > > 
>> > > > >
>> > > >
>> > > 
>> > >
>> >
> 
>

>
> Because Yamaha has protected its PianoSoft files on floppy disks, most
> drives don't work.
> 
> The Yamaha drive that works is the UD-FD01. There are two other drives that
> I know that work with the protected data:
> 
> Iomega #32633
> LaCie #706018
> 
> If you try a different drive and it works, please let the group know the
> make and model.
> 
> Bill Brandom
> 
> On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 5:23 AM, discodonal <discodonal@...> wrote:
> 
> > **
> >
> >
> > Why can't I use any USB floppy disk drive? I want to get all the songs
> > from my mark iii box to my dkc 850.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Donal
> >
> > --- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, Bill Brandom <bill.brandom03@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > If you are going to use a non-Yamaha USB FDD, I recommend the following:
> > >
> > > Iomega #32633
> > > LaCie #706018
> > >
> > > These do work with protected floppies.
> > >
> > > Bill
> > >
> > > Sent from my iPhone
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sep 3, 2012, at 9:50 AM, "gmtmt" <gmtmt@> wrote:
> > >
> > > > I wen to Best Buy and bought a floppy disc drive for $70.00 and
> > attached it the the KDC850 and it works great. I also use the USB stick as
> > well.
> > > >
> > > > --- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, Carol Beigel <carol@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > There is a problem with that. Yamaha copy protection scheme will NOT
> > allow you to:
> > > > >
> > > > > copy a PianoSoft disk to a USB stick
> > > > > copy a PianoSoft disk to the FromToPC folder
> > > > > copy PianoSoft disks to CDs
> > > > >
> > > > > The only way I have found to get your pianosoft floppies into the
> > Memory is to use a USB floppy disk drive.
> > > > >
> > > > > I figure if you can afford the $1500 for the DKC-850 you might save
> > yourself a lot of time and trouble and just buy their USB Floppy Disk drive.
> > > > >
> > > > > You can, however, convert your ESEQ disks to standard file formats
> > using Giebler, DKVutils or Root a Ripper, then use the converted disks to
> > place files on USB sticks, folders on a computer, etc.
> > > > >
> > > > > Good luck.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Carol Beigel
> > > > >
> > > > > On Sep 3, 2012, at 3:13 AM, tintinlad320 wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > I found this in the operating manual:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You can add a Disklavier piano performance you recorded or on
> > > > > > commercially available SmartPianoSoft software to the playback of
> > songs
> > > > > > on your favorite CDs.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > So its ok i guess; I wont have the diskettes reader unit so
> > probably I'll have to copy the floppy to the pc and from there on on a usb
> > stick I'll choose the
> > > > > > appropriate file...
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >  
> >
>