----- Original Message -----
From: Cynthia
To: dotcomformat@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2007 1:42 PM
Subject: [dotcomformat] Re: Cyndustries Sawtooth Animator
--- In dotcomformat@yahoogroups.com, "legravin" wrote:
>
> Has anyone on the list ordered and/or received a Sawtooth Animator from
> Cyndustries?
Hello Legravin!
From: Cynthia
To: dotcomformat@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2007 1:42 PM
Subject: [dotcomformat] Re: Cyndustries Sawtooth Animator
--- In dotcomformat@yahoogroups.com, "legravin" wrote:
>
> Has anyone on the list ordered and/or received a Sawtooth Animator from
> Cyndustries?
Hello Legravin!
I find it particularly odd however that for a Yahoo Group with probably
the largest number of members in the total Yahoo Synthesizer Group
of all synth Communities it would seem from our sales records that
Synthesizer Dot Com users are the most timid of the lot, and less likely
to try new things. (I would of course love to be proven wrong in my
impression)
For example, we have pre-sold (25) Motm format Sawtooth Animators
and as of today.... only (4) in the Dotcom format. Why is that?
We are working ourselves silly, working long long hours behind the
scenes to get these to you. Nevermind the difficulties of releasing a
great new product in all of the popular modular formats, and designing
and delivering the most advanced sonic engine ever offered - and served
to you on a platter in your native modular format, nooooo you're worried
about ordering one because the box might arrive a little late? I'll just hang
up my soldering iron for a little while now and go out and smell the roses
after reading your post.
Honestly, show a little more spine will ya'!
Cynthia
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the largest number of members in the total Yahoo Synthesizer Group
of all synth Communities it would seem from our sales records that
Synthesizer Dot Com users are the most timid of the lot, and less likely
to try new things. (I would of course love to be proven wrong in my
impression)
For example, we have pre-sold (25) Motm format Sawtooth Animators
and as of today.... only (4) in the Dotcom format. Why is that?
We are working ourselves silly, working long long hours behind the
scenes to get these to you. Nevermind the difficulties of releasing a
great new product in all of the popular modular formats, and designing
and delivering the most advanced sonic engine ever offered - and served
to you on a platter in your native modular format, nooooo you're worried
about ordering one because the box might arrive a little late? I'll just hang
up my soldering iron for a little while now and go out and smell the roses
after reading your post.
Honestly, show a little more spine will ya'!
Cynthia
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I agree somewhat with John. But for me... I like to hear lots and lots of
demos of what modules can do... not just two, three, or four audio-clips... but
where and how the module(s) is/are involved in some complex patches... where you
can hear the patch 'with', and 'without' the featured module, and/or set-up
differently. Text descriptions are fine, and expected. But demos... and
especially video demos really help.Ya know... some folks are timid with their
use of modules and the patches they are doing... some are 'wOwied' buy sounds
that some of us (well, speaking only for myself, here).... "that I" am not all
that impressed with, or that I can achieve the same "sounding" effect without
buying, and deciding what module(s) I have to remove, in order to use the new
module. I could buy the Sawtooth Animator, and find all sorts of uses for it...
and perhaps, use it quite a bit. But also, for all I know, it might turn out
that I would only find need of it 2-3 times in a year. I'm not picking on that
particular module... not at all. That's how I look at any module. (of course, I
don't drink, either.) : (
Again... speaking only for myself... I am particularly interested in modules which have multiple applications and functions (or can be used as such). And, I want to hear (and hear about), as many of these things as possible. I want to read about how the demo's author used the module for that sound, and how he/she uses it for other applications. All too often, the sample-sounds posted on synth module sites are dull, one-dimensional, and really, not all that informative (at least for the long-time modular synth people). And, I think it's true to one degree or another with all companies (dotcom, MOTM, Cyndustires, COTK, Billy-Bob's House of Modules, etc). Yes, there are exceptions... but sometimes, or often, those exceptions aren't demos of modules that I am interested in. I hear, or have heard, modules which sounded kinda 'neat'... but- in thinking of how I would use this module, without overusing it's distictive sound or effect... that's something I consider very much. Think of the 'gated spring reverb' effect. It's a great sound/effect... but you're not gonna use it all that often.
In the last few years, I've bought/built several modules that ultimately, I was disappointed in, and ended-up selling. Others... I just didn't find enough uses for them to warrant keeping them, living in a limited real estate environment (158-space cabinets). I've got only a few modules which I've found I don't need X copies of, and would sell/trade to replace them with something else. But- that 'something-else module' will have to be something I'm real sure is going to be worth it to me... being 'a keeper'... and, so that I don't end-up reselling at a loss of time and money. I know we all wish modules were sold commonly at ever 'Guitar Center/Musician's Friend', so we could easily 'try before we buy'. But that ain't gonna happen.
There's a log of guys who just like trying new modules, and don't mind trading them off down the road, if those modules aren't what they had hoped, or just aren't being used. Some people are just starting their experimenting with analog modular systems... and may not know what to expect, or even care. They're just experiencing what we 'old-timers' have all gone through... way back whenever. But after 35 years, I pretty-much know what types of things I can make use of... and if I can hear different ways modules can be put to work, and read about it... and perhaps even see it demonstrated on video... I think I'd be more likely to check-out modules which I think will offer what I want. And there are a couple of Cyndustries modules I might buy... if they were available in dotcom format... but those aren't... (yet) ; )
Again... speaking only for myself... I am particularly interested in modules which have multiple applications and functions (or can be used as such). And, I want to hear (and hear about), as many of these things as possible. I want to read about how the demo's author used the module for that sound, and how he/she uses it for other applications. All too often, the sample-sounds posted on synth module sites are dull, one-dimensional, and really, not all that informative (at least for the long-time modular synth people). And, I think it's true to one degree or another with all companies (dotcom, MOTM, Cyndustires, COTK, Billy-Bob's House of Modules, etc). Yes, there are exceptions... but sometimes, or often, those exceptions aren't demos of modules that I am interested in. I hear, or have heard, modules which sounded kinda 'neat'... but- in thinking of how I would use this module, without overusing it's distictive sound or effect... that's something I consider very much. Think of the 'gated spring reverb' effect. It's a great sound/effect... but you're not gonna use it all that often.
In the last few years, I've bought/built several modules that ultimately, I was disappointed in, and ended-up selling. Others... I just didn't find enough uses for them to warrant keeping them, living in a limited real estate environment (158-space cabinets). I've got only a few modules which I've found I don't need X copies of, and would sell/trade to replace them with something else. But- that 'something-else module' will have to be something I'm real sure is going to be worth it to me... being 'a keeper'... and, so that I don't end-up reselling at a loss of time and money. I know we all wish modules were sold commonly at ever 'Guitar Center/Musician's Friend', so we could easily 'try before we buy'. But that ain't gonna happen.
There's a log of guys who just like trying new modules, and don't mind trading them off down the road, if those modules aren't what they had hoped, or just aren't being used. Some people are just starting their experimenting with analog modular systems... and may not know what to expect, or even care. They're just experiencing what we 'old-timers' have all gone through... way back whenever. But after 35 years, I pretty-much know what types of things I can make use of... and if I can hear different ways modules can be put to work, and read about it... and perhaps even see it demonstrated on video... I think I'd be more likely to check-out modules which I think will offer what I want. And there are a couple of Cyndustries modules I might buy... if they were available in dotcom format... but those aren't... (yet) ; )