Dotcomformat

Shown is the unit I have built undergoing initial testing:

Has anyone else built this module? I am working on a brief audio demo.

This is something I have looked at building but not got around to it yet but it would be great to hear what it can do as I do need a resonator, and if its good then it will be next on the list after the Tau phaser I have just ordered the bits for.

Paul

--- In dotcomformat@yahoogroups.com, "jburdick727" <jburdick727@...> wrote:

>
> 
> Shown is the unit I have built undergoing initial testing:
> 
> 
> 
> Has anyone else built this module? I am working on a brief audio demo.
>

This is the first unit using the production printed circuit board. I have added a feature not on the original that allows a better coverage of human vocal formant frequencies. The low and medium filter bands have a switched range extender that multiplies the low band by three and medium band by two. The low band now covers the original range of 60 - 300 Hz and 180 - 900 Hz. The medium band covers the original range of 300 Hz - 1.5 KHz and 600 Hz - 3KHz.

--- In dotcomformat@yahoogroups.com, "paulshillito" wrote:
>
> This is something I have looked at building but not got around to it yet but it would be great to hear what it can do as I do need a resonator, and if its good then it will be next on the list after the Tau phaser I have just ordered the bits for.
>
> Paul
>
> --- In dotcomformat@yahoogroups.com, "jburdick727" jburdick727@ wrote:
> >
> >
> > Shown is the unit I have built undergoing initial testing:
> >
> >
> >
> > Has anyone else built this module? I am working on a brief audio demo.
> >
>

Cool! I'm looking forward to hearing it! ;-)

 

John L Rice

 

From: dotcomformat@yahoogroups.com [mailto:dotcomformat@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of jburdick727
Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2010 5:20 PM
To: dotcomformat@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [dotcomformat] Re: Polymoog Resonator in Dotcom Format

 






This is the first unit using the production printed circuit board. I have
added a feature not on the original that allows a better coverage of human
vocal formant frequencies. The low and medium filter bands have a switched
range extender that multiplies the low band by three and medium band by two.
The low band now covers the original range of 60 - 300 Hz and 180 - 900 Hz.
The medium band covers the original range of 300 Hz - 1.5 KHz and 600 Hz -
3KHz. 

  <http://www.groveaudio.com/images/forums/pmreso_fp_hand.jpg> 

  <http://www.groveaudio.com/images/forums/pmreso_back_hand.jpg> 

  <http://www.groveaudio.com/images/forums/pmreso_freq_detail.jpg> 

--- In dotcomformat@yahoogroups.com, "paulshillito" <paul.shillito@...>
wrote:
>
> This is something I have looked at building but not got around to it yet
but it would be great to hear what it can do as I do need a resonator, and
if its good then it will be next on the list after the Tau phaser I have
just ordered the bits for.

> 
> Paul
> 
> --- In dotcomformat@yahoogroups.com, "jburdick727" jburdick727@ wrote:
> >
> > 
> > Shown is the unit I have built undergoing initial testing:
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Has anyone else built this module? I am working on a brief audio demo.
> >
>

Actually, it may be too late for this run but I think you should really have
your company name/logo on the front panel!

 

John

 

From: dotcomformat@yahoogroups.com [mailto:dotcomformat@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of John L Rice
Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2010 7:15 PM
To: dotcomformat@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [dotcomformat] Re: Polymoog Resonator in Dotcom Format

 






Cool! I'm looking forward to hearing it! ;-)

 

John L Rice

 

From: dotcomformat@yahoogroups.com [mailto:dotcomformat@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of jburdick727
Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2010 5:20 PM
To: dotcomformat@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [dotcomformat] Re: Polymoog Resonator in Dotcom Format

 





This is the first unit using the production printed circuit board. I have
added a feature not on the original that allows a better coverage of human
vocal formant frequencies. The low and medium filter bands have a switched
range extender that multiplies the low band by three and medium band by two.
The low band now covers the original range of 60 - 300 Hz and 180 - 900 Hz.
The medium band covers the original range of 300 Hz - 1.5 KHz and 600 Hz -
3KHz. 

  <http://www.groveaudio.com/images/forums/pmreso_fp_hand.jpg> 

  <http://www.groveaudio.com/images/forums/pmreso_back_hand.jpg> 

  <http://www.groveaudio.com/images/forums/pmreso_freq_detail.jpg> 

--- In dotcomformat@yahoogroups.com, "paulshillito" <paul.shillito@...>
wrote:
>
> This is something I have looked at building but not got around to it yet
but it would be great to hear what it can do as I do need a resonator, and
if its good then it will be next on the list after the Tau phaser I have
just ordered the bits for.

> 
> Paul
> 
> --- In dotcomformat@yahoogroups.com, "jburdick727" jburdick727@ wrote:
> >
> > 
> > Shown is the unit I have built undergoing initial testing:
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Has anyone else built this module? I am working on a brief audio demo.
> >
>

Looks really nice! I really like the color coding, although if I had to nit-pick anything it would be the color coding -- since the Moog format has sort of a monochromatic "thing" going.  Still, nicely done!

ty

Yeah, I agree with Ty. The yellow will really stand out, especially in an
all Moog rig. Maybe a very pale yellow or . . .a white/blank block with
black lettering (reverse lettering) might have been preferable?

John

> -----Original Message-----
> From: dotcomformat@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:dotcomformat@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of tyhodson
> Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2010 11:00 PM
> To: dotcomformat@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [dotcomformat] Re: Polymoog Resonator in Dotcom Format
> 
> Looks really nice! I really like the color coding, although if I had to
> nit-pick anything it would be the color coding -- since the Moog format
> has sort of a monochromatic "thing" going.  Still, nicely done!
> 
> ty
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------
> 
> Yahoo! Groups Links
> 
> 
>

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dotcomformat/photos/album/1745184368/pic/1211605924/view?picmode=&mode=tn&order=ordinal&start=1&count=20&dir=asc

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dotcomformat/photos/album/1745184368/pic/1357571527/view?picmode=&mode=tn&order=ordinal&start=1&count=20&dir=asc

-dana

Actually, it shows up a lot "brighter" than it really is. Its like a
mustard yellow. I would be happy not to print it as its a second press
run for each panel with a 24Hr. drying period between runs. I think it
looks cool sitting in among the other modules, though. I am encouraged
to try using color on other modules like the sequencer which has many
operating modes and will require some kind of visual guidance for the
user to make it more intuitive to operate. And while I don't think there
are a major number of users of analog modular synths in live settings,
anything that can be done to enhance the visual usage aspects would be
valuable, I would think.

I will make panels any way people want but its going to cost more. In
order to sell a module for $200, though, I have to have a panel that
costs less than $10 and thats if I commit $1K for a panel run. In order
to make an individual panel with individual characteristics, I need to
offset the cost of my time (not necessarily in dollars but in the delays
it causes to other projects like the MIDI/CV and the sequencer, itself
an up to five panel affair) so I need to get more up front.

As I get more into the manufacturing aspects of these modules, my mind
is boggled by how people like the Arricks can charge so little for them.
It doesn't make much difference what the function of the module is,
either. The major costs are in the panels, jacks, knobs, boards and
those really expensive standoffs, all things that every module needs.

However, I always appreciate the feedback so keep it coming.

--- In dotcomformat@yahoogroups.com, "John L Rice" <Drummer@...> wrote:
>
>
> Yeah, I agree with Ty. The yellow will really stand out, especially in
an
> all Moog rig. Maybe a very pale yellow or . . .a white/blank block
with
> black lettering (reverse lettering) might have been preferable?
>
> John
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: dotcomformat@yahoogroups.com
> > [mailto:dotcomformat@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of tyhodson
> > Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2010 11:00 PM
> > To: dotcomformat@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [dotcomformat] Re: Polymoog Resonator in Dotcom Format
> >
> > Looks really nice! I really like the color coding, although if I had
to
> > nit-pick anything it would be the color coding -- since the Moog
format

> > has sort of a monochromatic "thing" going. Still, nicely done!
> >
> > ty
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
>

Howdy,

 It's your module, make it any way you see fit.
Rig

--- In dotcomformat@yahoogroups.com, "jburdick727" <jburdick727@...> wrote:

>
> 
> Actually, it shows up a lot "brighter" than it really is. Its like a
> mustard yellow. I would be happy not to print it as its a second press
> run for each panel with a 24Hr. drying period between runs. I think it
> looks cool sitting in among the other modules, though. I am encouraged
> to try using color on other modules like the sequencer which has many
> operating modes and will require some kind of visual guidance for the
> user to make it more intuitive to operate. And while I don't think there
> are a major number of users of analog modular synths in live settings,
> anything that can be done to enhance the visual usage aspects would be
> valuable, I would think.
> 
> I will make panels any way people want but its going to cost more. In
> order to sell a module for $200, though, I have to have a panel that
> costs less than $10 and thats if I commit $1K for a panel run. In order
> to make an individual panel with individual characteristics, I need to
> offset the cost of my time (not necessarily in dollars but in the delays
> it causes to other projects like the MIDI/CV and the sequencer, itself
> an up to five panel affair) so I need to get more up front.
> 
> As I get more into the manufacturing aspects of these modules, my mind
> is boggled by how people like the Arricks can charge so little for them.
> It doesn't make much difference what the function of the module is,
> either. The major costs are in the panels, jacks, knobs, boards and
> those really expensive standoffs, all things that every module needs.
> 
> However, I always appreciate the feedback so keep it coming.
> 
> --- In dotcomformat@yahoogroups.com, "John L Rice" <Drummer@> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Yeah, I agree with Ty. The yellow will really stand out, especially in
> an
> > all Moog rig. Maybe a very pale yellow or . . .a white/blank block
> with
> > black lettering (reverse lettering) might have been preferable?
> >
> > John
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: dotcomformat@yahoogroups.com
> > > [mailto:dotcomformat@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of tyhodson
> > > Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2010 11:00 PM
> > > To: dotcomformat@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: [dotcomformat] Re: Polymoog Resonator in Dotcom Format
> > >
> > > Looks really nice! I really like the color coding, although if I had
> to
> > > nit-pick anything it would be the color coding -- since the Moog
> format
> > > has sort of a monochromatic "thing" going. Still, nicely done!
> > >
> > > ty
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------------
> > >
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>

Personally, I'd recommend using the reverse lettering (white block/blank
lettering) as John suggested.  Monochrome is more consistent with the Moog
aesthetic (if that's important to you) than colored text, and I think the
yellow would be hard to discern in a performance situation anyway.  Unless
you're on a brightly lit stage, I'll bet yellow and white will look much the
same.

 

I do like the color-coding though, so if adhering to a traditional Moog
aesthetic is ~not~ one of your aims, I think it's a great idea.

 

Hope that feedback is helpful.  : )

ty

 

 

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From: dotcomformat@yahoogroups.com [mailto:dotcomformat@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of jburdick727
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2010 9:17 AM
To: dotcomformat@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [dotcomformat] Re: Polymoog Resonator in Dotcom Format

 

  


Actually, it shows up a lot "brighter" than it really is. Its like a
mustard yellow. I would be happy not to print it as its a second press
run for each panel with a 24Hr. drying period between runs. I think it
looks cool sitting in among the other modules, though. I am encouraged
to try using color on other modules like the sequencer which has many
operating modes and will require some kind of visual guidance for the
user to make it more intuitive to operate. And while I don't think there
are a major number of users of analog modular synths in live settings,
anything that can be done to enhance the visual usage aspects would be
valuable, I would think.

I will make panels any way people want but its going to cost more. In
order to sell a module for $200, though, I have to have a panel that
costs less than $10 and thats if I commit $1K for a panel run. In order
to make an individual panel with individual characteristics, I need to
offset the cost of my time (not necessarily in dollars but in the delays
it causes to other projects like the MIDI/CV and the sequencer, itself
an up to five panel affair) so I need to get more up front.

As I get more into the manufacturing aspects of these modules, my mind
is boggled by how people like the Arricks can charge so little for them.
It doesn't make much difference what the function of the module is,
either. The major costs are in the panels, jacks, knobs, boards and
those really expensive standoffs, all things that every module needs.

However, I always appreciate the feedback so keep it coming.

--- In dotcomformat@yahoogroups.com <mailto:dotcomformat%40yahoogroups.com>
, "John L Rice" <Drummer@...> wrote:
>
>
> Yeah, I agree with Ty. The yellow will really stand out, especially in
an
> all Moog rig. Maybe a very pale yellow or . . .a white/blank block
with
> black lettering (reverse lettering) might have been preferable?
>
> John
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: dotcomformat@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:dotcomformat%40yahoogroups.com> 
> > [mailto:dotcomformat@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:dotcomformat%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of tyhodson
> > Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2010 11:00 PM
> > To: dotcomformat@yahoogroups.com <mailto:dotcomformat%40yahoogroups.com>

> > Subject: [dotcomformat] Re: Polymoog Resonator in Dotcom Format
> >
> > Looks really nice! I really like the color coding, although if I had
to
> > nit-pick anything it would be the color coding -- since the Moog
format

> > has sort of a monochromatic "thing" going. Still, nicely done!
> >
> > ty
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
>

I'm generally a strong proponent of visual uniformity in MU modules, but for some reason this variance seems kinda cool to me...in addition to being for functional benefit. And I can imagine that it does indeed look pretty nifty amongst other modules.

Besides, the multi-color typeface on the (hopefully) forthcoming RR Edition E350 (MOTM-format) will blow the black & white uniformity of my rig anyway. ;-)

Gordon



--- In dotcomformat@yahoogroups.com, "jburdick727" <jburdick727@...> wrote:

>
> 
> Actually, it shows up a lot "brighter" than it really is. Its like a
> mustard yellow. I would be happy not to print it as its a second press
> run for each panel with a 24Hr. drying period between runs. I think it
> looks cool sitting in among the other modules, though. I am encouraged
> to try using color on other modules like the sequencer which has many
> operating modes and will require some kind of visual guidance for the
> user to make it more intuitive to operate. And while I don't think there
> are a major number of users of analog modular synths in live settings,
> anything that can be done to enhance the visual usage aspects would be
> valuable, I would think.
> 
> I will make panels any way people want but its going to cost more. In
> order to sell a module for $200, though, I have to have a panel that
> costs less than $10 and thats if I commit $1K for a panel run. In order
> to make an individual panel with individual characteristics, I need to
> offset the cost of my time (not necessarily in dollars but in the delays
> it causes to other projects like the MIDI/CV and the sequencer, itself
> an up to five panel affair) so I need to get more up front.
> 
> As I get more into the manufacturing aspects of these modules, my mind
> is boggled by how people like the Arricks can charge so little for them.
> It doesn't make much difference what the function of the module is,
> either. The major costs are in the panels, jacks, knobs, boards and
> those really expensive standoffs, all things that every module needs.
> 
> However, I always appreciate the feedback so keep it coming.
> 
> --- In dotcomformat@yahoogroups.com, "John L Rice" <Drummer@> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Yeah, I agree with Ty. The yellow will really stand out, especially in
> an
> > all Moog rig. Maybe a very pale yellow or . . .a white/blank block
> with
> > black lettering (reverse lettering) might have been preferable?
> >
> > John
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: dotcomformat@yahoogroups.com
> > > [mailto:dotcomformat@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of tyhodson
> > > Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2010 11:00 PM
> > > To: dotcomformat@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: [dotcomformat] Re: Polymoog Resonator in Dotcom Format
> > >
> > > Looks really nice! I really like the color coding, although if I had
> to
> > > nit-pick anything it would be the color coding -- since the Moog
> format
> > > has sort of a monochromatic "thing" going. Still, nicely done!
> > >
> > > ty
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------------
> > >
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>

I think it looks great!
The yellow text makes the switch function very clear.
I hope you stick with it.

p.


--- In dotcomformat@yahoogroups.com, "jburdick727" <jburdick727@...> wrote:

>
> 
> Actually, it shows up a lot "brighter" than it really is. Its like a
> mustard yellow. I would be happy not to print it as its a second press
> run for each panel with a 24Hr. drying period between runs. I think it
> looks cool sitting in among the other modules, though. I am encouraged
> to try using color on other modules like the sequencer which has many
> operating modes and will require some kind of visual guidance for the
> user to make it more intuitive to operate. And while I don't think there
> are a major number of users of analog modular synths in live settings,
> anything that can be done to enhance the visual usage aspects would be
> valuable, I would think.
> 
> I will make panels any way people want but its going to cost more. In
> order to sell a module for $200, though, I have to have a panel that
> costs less than $10 and thats if I commit $1K for a panel run. In order
> to make an individual panel with individual characteristics, I need to
> offset the cost of my time (not necessarily in dollars but in the delays
> it causes to other projects like the MIDI/CV and the sequencer, itself
> an up to five panel affair) so I need to get more up front.
> 
> As I get more into the manufacturing aspects of these modules, my mind
> is boggled by how people like the Arricks can charge so little for them.
> It doesn't make much difference what the function of the module is,
> either. The major costs are in the panels, jacks, knobs, boards and
> those really expensive standoffs, all things that every module needs.
> 
> However, I always appreciate the feedback so keep it coming.
> 
> --- In dotcomformat@yahoogroups.com, "John L Rice" <Drummer@> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Yeah, I agree with Ty. The yellow will really stand out, especially in
> an
> > all Moog rig. Maybe a very pale yellow or . . .a white/blank block
> with
> > black lettering (reverse lettering) might have been preferable?
> >
> > John
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: dotcomformat@yahoogroups.com
> > > [mailto:dotcomformat@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of tyhodson
> > > Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2010 11:00 PM
> > > To: dotcomformat@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: [dotcomformat] Re: Polymoog Resonator in Dotcom Format
> > >
> > > Looks really nice! I really like the color coding, although if I had
> to
> > > nit-pick anything it would be the color coding -- since the Moog
> format
> > > has sort of a monochromatic "thing" going. Still, nicely done!
> > >
> > > ty
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------------
> > >
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>