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Re: [dotcomformat] Re: Poly analog pads (the big question)

Re: [dotcomformat] Re: Poly analog pads (the big question)

2008-05-27 by Erik Ribeiro

kind of depends on what you are going for, or at least how modular/semi modular.
i love studio electronics. but the omega price is steep. at least you can build it 2 voice in the large case and add voices later. the filter options are awesome. i wish they would offer some of the omega filters CS80 for the ATC. that said, SE isn't everyone's cup of tea. the OS and multi seem to drive people crazy. they do update. but displays sometimes go haywire depending on the OS version. also, the envelopes are not to everyone's taste. they offer snappy versions, but they are so fast, they are clicky, which can be a turnoff. diamond in the rough. but lots of MIDI control. incredible sound. if you go with omega, jump on the SE list or ask greg or marc  about options. you might want to get the code, which i think is only officially offered through novamusik. the code is not everyone's thing, but it offers stuff you can't get on the ordinary omega. some options can be added to a standard omega if you ask them before you buy. 
i had my doubts about the prophet 08 until i played with one. as a polysynth, it sounds fantastic. the LFOs are great. layout is pretty good. i'm not a fan of endless knobs. i prefer clock positions, but it does prevent jumping from preset to preset. some people will scoff at the curtis chips. i think chips can sound just fine, but if you want more discrete parts or the "discrete sound" of mostly capacitors, inductors, resistors, etc., get the SE.
i should also mention the alesis andromeda A6. it probably offers the most flexible sound, with the exception of SE's filter choices. some also say it's sound isn't so warm or fat. others compare it to a juno. lots of bass, lots of punch, great higher end. but not warm and buttery.
ask around and check youtube.
erik



----- Original Message ----
From: klstay <klstay@msn.com>
To: dotcomformat@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 11:10:07 AM
Subject: [dotcomformat] Re: Poly analog pads (the big question)


The Studio Electronics Omega can be had 2, 4, 6, or 8 all analog 
voices. Plus, you can add 303 and/or 2600 clone filters to those 
voices individually as you see fit. (Start with the 2 voice and add 2 
more as needed etc.)

The polydac on the ASM2 is available standalone and can do up to a 
four voice modular analog setup as long as you have the modules for 
that many voices and do not mind tuning it all... ;-)

Since you already have the controller the Prophet08 rack seems the 
least costly route 8 analog voices.

--- In dotcomformat@ yahoogroups. com, "phineousbonemachin e" 
<berticus_sledge@ ...> wrote:
>
> OK I love my dotcom, but I have 4 digisynths right now. 
> 
> Yamaha Cs1x...first synth bought at a pawnshop for 125bucks.
> 
> Yamaha Cs6r...fun machine lots of wave forms to play with.
> 
> Novation x-station25. core of my small home demo rig. if you know 
> what it is then you know.......great controller.
> 
> Novation nova...I absolutly LOVE this little guy, and plan on 
buying 
> a supernova rack. I highly advise borrowing one for a weekend, fun 
> fun.
> 
> But, I want to add a poly analog synth to my setup.
> 
> Here is the big question:
> 
> I want polyphonic analog pads, with midi capabilites. 
> (synths like the roland mks-80 are great, but I want modern 
> stability. Trips to the tech for calibration is not an option.
> 
> So wich one?
> 
> Andromeda (such a fine beast),
> 
> Prophet 08 (nice sounds and great onboard sequencing features),
> 
> dave smith PEK?? (wonderfull marriage of the old and new! totally 
> unique) 
> keys or rack, either is fine.
> 
> I just can't make up my mind.
> 
> pros?....cons? 
> 
> maybe some other suggestions?
> 
> and on a side note,
> 
> If I had the modules for 3 seperate sounds at once on the 
> dotcom.....what would I use to enable chord tracking? Thee age old 
> question =).
> 
> If someone out there knows of something with CV outs and ins that 
> would be a plus!
> 
> I find that I am constantly jamming with me dotcom (once the 960 
gets 
> here I fear I will become a recluse LOL)
> 
> My nova is my main jamming tool..once I create a sound, I hop on 
the 
> dotcom and retro-engineer it! =) till I die this will remain my 
> favorite time sink.
> 
> I dont use me other synths all that much anymore.
> 
> Time for a studio upgrade.
> 
> Message boards have been slow due to the weekend so consider this 
> some food for thought.
> 
> any and all suggestions will be considered since this fall I am 
going 
> to buy one.
> 
> This post is all about gaining knowledge from those who have some 
or 
Show quoted textHide quoted text
> all of these said boards and what they prefer in an analog poly.
> 
> TY in advance
> 
> l8r
> 
> P
>

Re: [dotcomformat] Re: Poly analog pads (the big question)

2008-05-27 by Ross Totino

Sorry for the obvious suggestion, but if you can try out the synths you're interested in personally. Listening, tweaking one in person will certainly help you decide. I have an Andromeda, and I sometimes wonder why I own anything else. It's features and sounds are pretty massive, putting it in a 'desert island' class of synths. It's a chameleon of a synth also, enabling you to dial up tons of classic synth sounds. No doubt it's a step above a VA synth. The P8 sounds very good, but it's feature set is small compared to the Andromeda. Still the P8 might knock your socks off!

-R

On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 9:58 AM, Erik Ribeiro <djxpat@yahoo.com> wrote:

kind of depends on what you are going for, or at least how modular/semi modular.

i love studio electronics. but the omega price is steep. at least you can build it 2 voice in the large case and add voices later. the filter options are awesome. i wish they would offer some of the omega filters CS80 for the ATC. that said, SE isn't everyone's cup of tea. the OS and multi seem to drive people crazy. they do update. but displays sometimes go haywire depending on the OS version. also, the envelopes are not to everyone's taste. they offer snappy versions, but they are so fast, they are clicky, which can be a turnoff. diamond in the rough. but lots of MIDI control. incredible sound. if you go with omega, jump on the SE list or ask greg or marc about options. you might want to get the code, which i think is only officially offered through novamusik. the code is not everyone's thing, but it offers stuff you can't get on the ordinary omega. some options can be added to a standard omega if you ask them before you buy.

i had my doubts about the prophet 08 until i played with one. as a polysynth, it sounds fantastic. the LFOs are great. layout is pretty good. i'm not a fan of endless knobs. i prefer clock positions, but it does prevent jumping from preset to preset. some people will scoff at the curtis chips. i think chips can sound just fine, but if you want more discrete parts or the "discrete sound" of mostly capacitors, inductors, resistors, etc., get the SE.

i should also mention the alesis andromeda A6. it probably offers the most flexible sound, with the exception of SE's filter choices. some also say it's sound isn't so warm or fat. others compare it to a juno. lots of bass, lots of punch, great higher end. but not warm and buttery.

ask around and check youtube.

erik


----- Original Message ----
Show quoted textHide quoted text
From: klstay <klstay@msn.com>
To: dotcomformat@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 11:10:07 AM
Subject: [dotcomformat] Re: Poly analog pads (the big question)

The Studio Electronics Omega can be had 2, 4, 6, or 8 all analog
voices. Plus, you can add 303 and/or 2600 clone filters to those
voices individually as you see fit. (Start with the 2 voice and add 2
more as needed etc.)

The polydac on the ASM2 is available standalone and can do up to a
four voice modular analog setup as long as you have the modules for
that many voices and do not mind tuning it all... ;-)

Since you already have the controller the Prophet08 rack seems the
least costly route 8 analog voices.

--- In dotcomformat@ yahoogroups. com, "phineousbonemachin e"
wrote:
>
> OK I love my dotcom, but I have 4 digisynths right now.
>
> Yamaha Cs1x...first synth bought at a pawnshop for 125bucks.
>
> Yamaha Cs6r...fun machine lots of wave forms to play with.
>
> Novation x-station25. core of my small home demo rig. if you know
> what it is then you know.......great controller.
>
> Novation nova...I absolutly LOVE this little guy, and plan on
buying
> a supernova rack. I highly advise borrowing one for a weekend, fun
> fun.
>
> But, I want to add a poly analog synth to my setup.
>
> Here is the big question:
>
> I want polyphonic analog pads, with midi capabilites.
> (synths like the roland mks-80 are great, but I want modern
> stability. Trips to the tech for calibration is not an option.
>
> So wich one?
>
> Andromeda (such a fine beast),
>
> Prophet 08 (nice sounds and great onboard sequencing features),
>
> dave smith PEK?? (wonderfull marriage of the old and new! totally
> unique)
> keys or rack, either is fine.
>
> I just can't make up my mind.
>
> pros?....cons?
>
> maybe some other suggestions?
>
> and on a side note,
>
> If I had the modules for 3 seperate sounds at once on the
> dotcom.....what would I use to enable chord tracking? Thee age old
> question =).
>
> If someone out there knows of something with CV outs and ins that
> would be a plus!
>
> I find that I am constantly jamming with me dotcom (once the 960
gets
> here I fear I will become a recluse LOL)
>
> My nova is my main jamming tool..once I create a sound, I hop on
the
> dotcom and retro-engineer it! =) till I die this will remain my
> favorite time sink.
>
> I dont use me other synths all that much anymore.
>
> Time for a studio upgrade.
>
> Message boards have been slow due to the weekend so consider this
> some food for thought.
>
> any and all suggestions will be considered since this fall I am
going
> to buy one.
>
> This post is all about gaining knowledge from those who have some
or
> all of these said boards and what they prefer in an analog poly.
>
> TY in advance
>
> l8r
>
> P
>


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