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OK I love my dotcom, but I have 4 digisynths right now. 

Yamaha Cs1x...first synth bought at a pawnshop for 125bucks.

Yamaha Cs6r...fun machine lots of wave forms to play with.

Novation x-station25. core of my small home demo rig. if you know 
what it is then you know.......great controller.

Novation nova...I absolutly LOVE this little guy, and plan on buying 
a supernova rack. I highly advise borrowing one for a weekend, fun 
fun.

But, I want to add a poly analog synth to my setup.

Here is the big question:

I want polyphonic analog pads, with midi capabilites. 
(synths like the roland mks-80 are great, but I want modern 
stability. Trips to the tech for calibration is not an option.

So wich one?

Andromeda (such a fine beast),
 
Prophet 08 (nice sounds and great onboard sequencing features),
 
dave smith PEK?? (wonderfull marriage of the old and new! totally 
unique)  
keys or rack, either is fine.

I just can't make up my mind.

pros?....cons? 

maybe some other suggestions?

and on a side note,
 
If I had the modules for 3 seperate sounds at once on the 
dotcom.....what would I use to enable chord tracking? Thee age old 
question =).

If someone out there knows of something with CV outs and ins that 
would be a plus!

I find that I am constantly jamming with me dotcom (once the 960 gets 
here I fear I will become a recluse LOL)

My nova is my main jamming tool..once I create a sound, I hop on the 
dotcom and retro-engineer it!  =) till I die this will remain my 
favorite time sink.

I dont use me other synths all that much anymore.

Time for a studio upgrade.

Message boards have been slow due to the weekend so consider this 
some food for thought.

any and all suggestions will be considered since this fall I am going 
to buy one.

This post is all about gaining knowledge from those who have some or 
all of these said boards and what they prefer in an analog poly.

TY in advance

l8r

P

The Studio Electronics Omega can be had 2, 4, 6, or 8 all analog 
voices. Plus, you can add 303 and/or 2600 clone filters to those 
voices individually as you see fit. (Start with the 2 voice and add 2 
more as needed etc.)

The polydac on the ASM2 is available standalone and can do up to a 
four voice modular analog setup as long as you have the modules for 
that many voices and do not mind tuning it all... ;-)

Since you already have the controller the Prophet08 rack seems the 
least costly route 8 analog voices.

--- In dotcomformat@yahoogroups.com, "phineousbonemachine" 
<berticus_sledge@...> wrote:
>
> OK I love my dotcom, but I have 4 digisynths right now. 
> 
> Yamaha Cs1x...first synth bought at a pawnshop for 125bucks.
> 
> Yamaha Cs6r...fun machine lots of wave forms to play with.
> 
> Novation x-station25. core of my small home demo rig. if you know 
> what it is then you know.......great controller.
> 
> Novation nova...I absolutly LOVE this little guy, and plan on 
buying 
> a supernova rack. I highly advise borrowing one for a weekend, fun 
> fun.
> 
> But, I want to add a poly analog synth to my setup.
> 
> Here is the big question:
> 
> I want polyphonic analog pads, with midi capabilites. 
> (synths like the roland mks-80 are great, but I want modern 
> stability. Trips to the tech for calibration is not an option.
> 
> So wich one?
> 
> Andromeda (such a fine beast),
>  
> Prophet 08 (nice sounds and great onboard sequencing features),
>  
> dave smith PEK?? (wonderfull marriage of the old and new! totally 
> unique)  
> keys or rack, either is fine.
> 
> I just can't make up my mind.
> 
> pros?....cons? 
> 
> maybe some other suggestions?
> 
> and on a side note,
>  
> If I had the modules for 3 seperate sounds at once on the 
> dotcom.....what would I use to enable chord tracking? Thee age old 
> question =).
> 
> If someone out there knows of something with CV outs and ins that 
> would be a plus!
> 
> I find that I am constantly jamming with me dotcom (once the 960 
gets 
> here I fear I will become a recluse LOL)
> 
> My nova is my main jamming tool..once I create a sound, I hop on 
the 
> dotcom and retro-engineer it!  =) till I die this will remain my 
> favorite time sink.
> 
> I dont use me other synths all that much anymore.
> 
> Time for a studio upgrade.
> 
> Message boards have been slow due to the weekend so consider this 
> some food for thought.
> 
> any and all suggestions will be considered since this fall I am 
going 
> to buy one.
> 
> This post is all about gaining knowledge from those who have some 
or 

> all of these said boards and what they prefer in an analog poly.
> 
> TY in advance
> 
> l8r
> 
> P
>

> But, I want to add a poly analog synth to my setup.
> 
> Here is the big question:
> 
> I want polyphonic analog pads, with midi
> capabilites. 
> (synths like the roland mks-80 are great, but I want
> modern 
> stability. Trips to the tech for calibration is not
> an option.
> 
> So wich one?

I'm also looking for a nice analog poly, but I'm
through with unreliable vintage stuff, and there
aren't many newer options out there. I've been
drooling over the Prophet 08, but I keep reading mixed
comments about its sound. I wish someone would come up
with a cheap Juno clone or something, but it's not
likely to happen.

In the meanwhile, I've just got back my Ensoniq ESQ-1
(which a cousin borrowed), and it's a great hybrid
poly synth. No knobs, but extremely easy to program,
and with 3 oscs, 3 LFO's, and 4 envelopes per voice
(plus amplitude cross-modulation, osc sync, and other
nice tricks), it's a very powerful synth. It's also
very analog sounding. Can't believe people sell them
for less than $200. Oh well, such is life.


> If I had the modules for 3 seperate sounds at once
> on the 
> dotcom.....what would I use to enable chord
> tracking? Thee age old 
> question =).

There are some MIDI/CV converters out there (try
Kenton or Doepfer) with multiple pitch/gate outputs
which can handle chords. I don't know any specific
models, though.


> I dont use me other synths all that much anymore.

Same here. My Waldorf XT and Korg MS2000R don't see
much action anymore (which is bad because they're
great synths). I also bought an Emu MP7 Command
Station which I think I will end up selling, although
it works great as a drum machine.

> any and all suggestions will be considered since
> this fall I am going 
> to buy one.

Good luck finding the best for your needs. If you get
the Prophet 08, I would like to know what you think
about it.



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The SE is very cool (high geekness factor in a good way) but is very 
high priced. I would rather build another sequencer row in the dotcom 
or for that price I could also chain 3 prophet08 rack's for 24voice. 

Noone has mentioned the PEK,( I really only wanted one of those 
evolver boxes anyway).

I am not a DIY guy (although I have yanked and rewired many guitar 
pickups in my time)and I would buy a prebuilt polydac in dotcom 
format in a heartbeat.

I am leaning twords the prophet 08 over the andromeda for various 
reasons. 

main reason is the prophet is capable of daisychaining for 8, 16, 24, 
32...ect voices and can be rack mounted. plus who wouldn't want the 
Prophet sound set in there arsenal.

But: I have heard that the andromeda is the polyanalog pad machine to 
have.

If I had the cash ....I would buy a prophet 08 today, but seeing that 
I don't I will remain on the fence. 

The dream set up is 2 prophet 08 racks, 1 supernova rack, and my 
dotcom 110 space. (currantly the dot com is only a full 22space 
studio cab, but a new portable cab and my first 960 are ordered.

plus for a live rig, I like the fact that I could take one rack, a 
controller, and me laptop and I am off. 

Thankyou for the feedback

always a hard desion when upgrading.

l8r

P

OK, I'll mention the PEK. I have one and I really like both the 
analog and digital sounds. It's a very versatile instrument, but it 
has some drawbacks:

The rotary encoders turn infinitely in any direction, even after they 
reach their maximum or minimum amount. Several have gone bad on me 
but fortunately, the customer service is excellent.

In order to see the setting of an encoder, you have to move it just a 
tiny bit to see the value in the display. One way around this problem 
is to use the Psicraft Vyzor Evolver editor.

There is also a limitation of 4 voices. You can add individual voices 
by adding Desktop Evolvers.

Bernie

--- In dotcomformat@yahoogroups.com, "phineousbonemachine" 
<berticus_sledge@...> wrote:
>
> The SE is very cool (high geekness factor in a good way) but is 
very 
> high priced. I would rather build another sequencer row in the 
dotcom 
> or for that price I could also chain 3 prophet08 rack's for 
24voice. 
> 
> Noone has mentioned the PEK,( I really only wanted one of those 
> evolver boxes anyway).
> 
> I am not a DIY guy (although I have yanked and rewired many guitar 
> pickups in my time)and I would buy a prebuilt polydac in dotcom 
> format in a heartbeat.
> 
> I am leaning twords the prophet 08 over the andromeda for various 
> reasons. 
> 
> main reason is the prophet is capable of daisychaining for 8, 16, 
24, 
> 32...ect voices and can be rack mounted. plus who wouldn't want the 
> Prophet sound set in there arsenal.
> 
> But: I have heard that the andromeda is the polyanalog pad machine 
to 
> have.
> 
> If I had the cash ....I would buy a prophet 08 today, but seeing 
that 

> I don't I will remain on the fence. 
> 
> The dream set up is 2 prophet 08 racks, 1 supernova rack, and my 
> dotcom 110 space. (currantly the dot com is only a full 22space 
> studio cab, but a new portable cab and my first 960 are ordered.
> 
> plus for a live rig, I like the fact that I could take one rack, a 
> controller, and me laptop and I am off. 
> 
> Thankyou for the feedback
> 
> always a hard desion when upgrading.
> 
> l8r
> 
> P
>

Good luck in your decision. The Andromeda sounds and seems fantastic,
the other two you mentioned a little less so (to me). I hope you find
something you love, and can live with for a long time - I've had my
roland jd-800 since they came out with it, and it's been my main
keyboard ever since - in fact it's been on continuously (I mean it's
been powered up) for most of those 16 years. Never a problem, except
for some outside incidents, like dropping an oberheim on it once and
breaking a few keys - otherwise it's been bulletproof. Hope you find
something like that!


--- In dotcomformat@yahoogroups.com, "phineousbonemachine"
<berticus_sledge@...> wrote:

>
> OK I love my dotcom, but I have 4 digisynths right now. 
> 
> Yamaha Cs1x...first synth bought at a pawnshop for 125bucks.
> 
> Yamaha Cs6r...fun machine lots of wave forms to play with.
> 
> Novation x-station25. core of my small home demo rig. if you know 
> what it is then you know.......great controller.
> 
> Novation nova...I absolutly LOVE this little guy, and plan on buying 
> a supernova rack. I highly advise borrowing one for a weekend, fun 
> fun.
> 
> But, I want to add a poly analog synth to my setup.
> 
> Here is the big question:
> 
> I want polyphonic analog pads, with midi capabilites. 
> (synths like the roland mks-80 are great, but I want modern 
> stability. Trips to the tech for calibration is not an option.
> 
> So wich one?
> 
> Andromeda (such a fine beast),
>  
> Prophet 08 (nice sounds and great onboard sequencing features),
>  
> dave smith PEK?? (wonderfull marriage of the old and new! totally 
> unique)  
> keys or rack, either is fine.
>